Help on using a Focusrite Scarlet for Rocksmith. No guitar sound

[Blidgu]

So I have a Focusrite Scarlet and I use RS_ASIO. I put in my drivers into input 1 and the game recognizes it as a real tone cable. The problem is just that I don't get any in-game sound. If I plug in my headphones into the Focusrite I can hear my guitar no problem, and the game can apparently hear it too, because when I go to calibration, it says "LOUDER" when I play but I can't hear anything and the calibration needle also doesn't move. The rest of the game's sound works fine, it's just my guitar. I tried putting the Focusrite to DVD-Quality 48kHz, that didn't work, NoCableLauncher doesn't work either (the game doesn't even recognize my interface), and I tried all my different ASIO drivers instead of the standard Focusrite USB ASIO.
I really don't know what else I could try so any help would be appreciated. And no I really don't want to order a Real Tone Cable.

[alexcustos]

And here it's We are here not to support anyone (believe it or not). But people come here in packs looking for alternative solutions because they don't like the official cable for some reason. That's simple and easy to let them choose if they want to deal with alternatives. And if it could be so destructive as you think, Ubi would forbid discussing it here on the official channel for sure. So stop acting like you're helping those people.

[caldaar]

alexcustos님이 먼저 게시:

And here it's We are here not to support anyone (believe it or not). But people come here in packs looking for alternative solutions because they don't like the official cable for some reason. That's simple and easy to let them choose if they want to deal with alternatives. And if it could be so destructive as you think, Ubi would forbid discussing it here on the official channel for sure. So stop acting like you're helping those people.

So, is that your step one for supporting him? You attacked me good! I might have had a tear.. wait, nope, working on it. But Good job! I am sure it helped, but I would suggest something specific to his issue.

Maybe try asking him a question, it would be better than focusing your lust on me.

[caldaar]

Tino94님이 먼저 게시:

Ahh, I see lol

So, I hope you see the truth of it. Alex does not have any solutions for you. He just thinks he is being your hero coming to your rescue.

He knows just as well as the rest of us that are out here helping that interfaces rarely work. And he doesn't like us telling you that........ I can already see his next attack claiming that I am not helping since I am not wasting your time telling you settings that probably won't help because a lot of others have tried them over the years and it didn't help.

I would rather be honest with you:

Some can use interfaces in microphone mode, but get no sound. Some can use the crack and claim they work, but then complain that the software won't recognize the notes they are playing or timing is off. Very few actually get them to work properly. Most eventually go buy the cable as the fix or just quit trying and give up completely.

Ubisoft themselves told you that it is working as intended.

So, if you are really interested in playing.... Save yourself some time and go with what works before all the cables are gone and you can't get one. UBI has announced that they are working on the next big thing, and I have no idea how that is going to affect them having any more cables made.

[1337Dude]

Contrary to what the Ubisoft technicians are aware of or allowed to share - you can play Rocksmith without the realtone cable. In fact, if you have a Scarlett interface - it should work better than the real thing (better sound and less latency).

First off - please share the entirety of your RS Asio ini file (configuration file) so we can make sure you have that correctly put together.
Or at least make sure you follow the guide here.
(https://www.reddit.com/r/rocksmith/comments/evi0o2/rocksmith_and_scarlett_solo_gen_3_easy_thanks_to/) - This makes it easy.



Did you verify your scarlett solo is set to 48000 sample rate and 48 buffer size? Did you make sure your Windows sound is set to your Focusrite Scarlett?

This took me 5 minutes to set up and it was easy.

[alexcustos]

caldaar님이 먼저 게시:

So, is that your step one for supporting him?
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He just thinks he is being your hero
...

Why do you always think there must be someone else? I'm just having fun here and occasionally share my opinion. In this case, I think you vastly underestimate the number of people you did discourage. For example, I noticed Rocksmith from its release but never thought it worth my effort searching and buying the cable. I finally bought the game when it became very clear that I can fake the cable with soldering or reflashing the chip with specific VID/PID (software implementations I found a few minutes later). Of course, I admit some people can be frustrated because of bad luck with alternative solutions, but at least I give them the hope to try the game immediately if they already have a decent interface for recording guitar. BTW, since RS_ASIO released, RTC became almost completely useless in this case. And yes, I don't care about Ubi's support. If they don't like it they can forbid it explicitly. Until that, your opinion isn't any better than mine.

[caldaar]

alexcustos님이 먼저 게시:

Why do you always think there must be someone else?

.....

Until that, your opinion isn't any better than mine.

Here is the difference in our positions...

I don't have a solution, I have tried and couldn't come up with one, and I have seen so many people over the years trying to get it to work only to end up buying the cable. I actually started off trying to help them years before you or UBI joined in these threads, but found out the results were never as good as the cable and most never got them to work. So, I tell new people that the cable is the solution because that is their best chance to have RS be a usable software for them.

You don't have a solution.. but instead of saying you don't have a solution your main point of jumping on these is to tell me that I should try to fix what can't be fixed. If you know something we don't then step up and provide that. I won't stop you and I was really hoping you could. Obviously the OP came out here because they couldn't find a solution.. Baseless hope is not a help to them.

If we don't have UBI before our names, then you know we do not get paid to come out here to help. There is no benefit to us except the good feeling of helping someone on their path to learn guitar using what we think is the best software currently available for that. It is not fun to tell someone what they want can't happen, but sometimes that is the only good answer.

[alexcustos]

caldaar님이 먼저 게시:

Here is the difference in our positions...

No, no, and no. The position looks the same. But, it's kind of a problem that you act exactly as official support. Such behavior is not what people are expecting to find on forums (even official). I think it's better to leave this BS to members with the Ubi tag. No offense here, I know this job well enough, and they do what supposed to do. But I can't understand why you choose to help them to the detriment of users.

[caldaar]

alexcustos님이 먼저 게시:

it's kind of a problem that you act exactly as official support.

If I was official support.... My boss would tell me to ignore your trolling.

Since I am not, I have challenged you multiple times to prove me wrong that there is a real way to help the OP beyond my suggestion. And you have nothing.

As far as your forum expectations... People ask questions, other people respond. Anything you expect beyond that is ignorant. Thankfully people don't have to care about your expectations.

So where does that leave the OP? Still that the cable is the best solution.

alexcustos님이 먼저 게시:

I think it's better to leave this BS to members with the Ubi tag. No offense here,

I think this is your best suggestion... Well at least that you should stay out of it unless you have something real to offer.

[Blidgu]

caldaar님이 먼저 게시:

Tino94님이 먼저 게시:

Also many people can't even get the cable anywhere. For me, I can only get it if I buy it with the game in a retail store, and even then, most don't even sell the game anymore. Making a game reliant on an exclusive cable when there are better and more available tools to use is such a weird concept to me. Even if I could buy the cable, I don't even want to. I have my interface that does the same thing and more, and does so better than the real tone cable so I don't see a point in buying practically a downgrade. In my opinion, the Real Tone Cable is a good addition to beginners that don't have an interface to get one along with the game, but it should still have native audio interface support. What the devs probably don't/didn't realize is that not only beginner guitarists buy this game, but also lots of professionals that just want to have some quick fun.

Would it be nice to have those options? Sure. Though I hear every day at my job how unrealistic items should be sooo easy.

So, here is an insight to development. What people think is easy is usually tons of code. Sure, somebody created a simple crack to make the game think your interface is a Realtone cable. But, then it is left to you to get it to work and a lot of people can't or end up with poor results. Not sure why people are not complaining to the creator of the crack, the support really should be there. But lets move on.

Now, for a business like UBI to get every interface to properly work for note detection: They have to purchase all of those interfaces or convince companies to hand them over for free. They will only hand them for free if they get advertising or expect a boost in sales so unlikely and people already complain about the current advertising.. For each device they have to verify any driver conflicts, write code to override settings, test, rewrite code, test again, figure out what settings cannot be overridden, create a database for frontline support on specific settings either in the driver software or on the devices along with issue logs because if they say they support them then they have to be able to support them. They would also have to train their frontline support on all of those devices. All of that requires thousands of lines of code and quite a few people to write, test, and support... That is money out the door for a very specific limited market of people, so to recoup those costs the price of the software would need to go up. Raise the cost, on a software people already complain about being too expensive, lowers how many would purchase it reducing any profit or ability to pay those added people.

Now, also keep in mind that bringing the software to PC was secondary. It actually wasn't available on PC till about 2-3 years after the release of the Original RS and MAC support didn't come out till RS 2014. If you haven't noticed the interface is developed to be centered around consoles. On Consoles, which is their main market base, interfaces would not work unless they built their own drivers to control all of those devices. So, all of that code would have been pointless bloat to the software in that environment. They did however create the drivers for your computer to allow you to use the same original cable from your console on your PC. That is the main reason RS was made available for download only, because majority of the people wanting it on PC already had the console version and the cable.

Now, sure they could create two versions... one with the bloat for computers the other without for consoles... But that would be a maintenance nightmare, and people would complain about the cost difference between the two since computer would have had to be more for the added work.

Then even after all that you still have idiots that will complain that they cant take a 1/4 in to 1/8 in adapter to plug directly into their computer... Think I am joking? Alex has been in a few of those discussions of people trying to do just that.

See, I get your point, but the programming for interface support is really not that hard, even less so since they already have Real Tone Cable support. Seeing as I can plug in my interface into literally any DAW ever (FL Studio, Cubase, Ableton; whatever) and have it properly recognized in a matter of seconds, I don't see where the technical difficulties would come from. If it would be about proper note detection rather than just outputting sound, that's simple as well. Just look at any digital tuner pedal out there, or the tuners/plugins that deal with notes in any plugin. The Real Tone Cable is literally just a mini interface with less features that (I assume, I don't know for sure, correct me if I'm wrong) uses ASIO4ALL (an ASIO emulator that works with pretty much every audio interface and every device) so there is no problem considering the individual drivers of the interfaces. That's what makes it work on consoles as well I would assume.
If it was so hard to get interfaces to work on this game, we wouldn't have the crack, which doesn't have a huge developer team behind it. Honestly if any DAW I can download supports my interface, there's no reason Rocksmith shouldn't be able to do it. It's just laziness on Ubisoft's part.
And yeah I get that it was just a console thing at first, but that's years in the past. There's no reason for it to not have gotten that kind of update since then, considering there IS apparently a pretty big playerbase on PC.

"They did however create the drivers for your computer to allow you to use the same original cable from your console on your PC. That is the main reason RS was made available for download only, because majority of the people wanting it on PC already had the console version and the cable."
Reading through the forums a bit, and it seems they really never did release their own drivers. The cable uses the standard ASIO4ALL driver, which again, works with any interface out there (to varying degrees of quality but still).

Hope my rambling made any sense I got sidetracked a few times lmao.

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Tino94님이 먼저 게시:

See, I get your point, but the programming for interface support is really not that hard, even less so since they already have Real Tone Cable support. Seeing as I can plug in my interface into literally any DAW ever (FL Studio, Cubase, Ableton; whatever) and have it properly recognized in a matter of seconds, I don't see where the technical difficulties would come from. If it would be about proper note detection rather than just outputting sound, that's simple as well. Just look at any digital tuner pedal out there, or the tuners/plugins that deal with notes in any plugin. The Real Tone Cable is literally just a mini interface with less features that (I assume, I don't know for sure, correct me if I'm wrong) uses ASIO4ALL (an ASIO emulator that works with pretty much every audio interface and every device) so there is no problem considering the individual drivers of the interfaces. That's what makes it work on consoles as well I would assume.
If it was so hard to get interfaces to work on this game, we wouldn't have the crack, which doesn't have a huge developer team behind it. Honestly if any DAW I can download supports my interface, there's no reason Rocksmith shouldn't be able to do it. It's just laziness on Ubisoft's part.
And yeah I get that it was just a console thing at first, but that's years in the past. There's no reason for it to not have gotten that kind of update since then, considering there IS apparently a pretty big playerbase on PC.

"They did however create the drivers for your computer to allow you to use the same original cable from your console on your PC. That is the main reason RS was made available for download only, because majority of the people wanting it on PC already had the console version and the cable."
Reading through the forums a bit, and it seems they really never did release their own drivers. The cable uses the standard ASIO4ALL driver, which again, works with any interface out there (to varying degrees of quality but still).

Hope my rambling made any sense I got sidetracked a few times lmao.

Your post makes sense, and it is not the first time it has been brought up nor will it be the last. We have even had discussions on these boards of taking apart the cable and identifying the circuits.

But, when it comes down to it.. Where does it leave you? Would it be great if you can get it to work? Sure. But if you can't... Then the cable is your best bet. It is a great software to learn to play on and is also fun to practice and improve skills for experienced players.

And honestly, we are not talking about a $200 item, it is around $30. If you are like me you have 3 different distortion pedals just to get the right sound... And we have all kinds of cables to attach different devices with different angle connectors to have just the right one. Is this any different?

btw, sorry for the banter between me and Alex.. Not the first time nor the last on that either.

[caldaar]

Also, this is not just simple note tracking like a Guitar Hero where it can let you know you missed 3 notes later.. It is as close as possible to real time tracking including showing you the entire bend that you are doing all the way up and down that bend compared to what it should be while you are playing the song. It is pretty close to dead on when setup correctly with a properly setup guitar, system, and the right cable.

[alexcustos]

caldaar님이 먼저 게시:

If I was official support.... My boss would tell me to ignore your trolling.

Thanks. If you prefer labels, you're an Ubi's bot. And that's a lot of fun discovering your limitations and watching the evolution. I didn't notice any changes yet, but they will probably upgrade or retire you when the new project released. I'll check it out.

[trash aim]

UbiRaziel님이 먼저 게시:

Hello everyone!

I appreciate there's some alternating opinions here so I'd like to try to offer some light on the subject.

A Real Tone cable is required to play Rocksmith, as per our System Requirements support article: https://support.ubisoft.com/en-GB/faqs/18158/

There may be workarounds out there by the community to get around this, however what you're currently experiencing is intended behaviour.

All the best.

- Ubisoft Support

Ubisoft making good game working for everyone :
Ubisoft forcing players to buy a 30€ cheap trash cable :
Ubisoft when someone make a mod to make people use actual based interface sound card on their trash game :

Come on, your company is making game for money purpose and not good player experience.
Refunded that trash game and now I note that I won't buy an ubisoft game again (rayman is actually a good game)
Piracy is bad, but sometimes I understand why people prefer having viruses than paying a company that doesn't care about em

[Feen]

I went through all this too.. Then I refunded 2014 version and got Rocksmith +. Used a regular cable and started playing.