Help on using a Focusrite Scarlet for Rocksmith. No guitar sound

[Blidgu]

So I have a Focusrite Scarlet and I use RS_ASIO. I put in my drivers into input 1 and the game recognizes it as a real tone cable. The problem is just that I don't get any in-game sound. If I plug in my headphones into the Focusrite I can hear my guitar no problem, and the game can apparently hear it too, because when I go to calibration, it says "LOUDER" when I play but I can't hear anything and the calibration needle also doesn't move. The rest of the game's sound works fine, it's just my guitar. I tried putting the Focusrite to DVD-Quality 48kHz, that didn't work, NoCableLauncher doesn't work either (the game doesn't even recognize my interface), and I tried all my different ASIO drivers instead of the standard Focusrite USB ASIO.
I really don't know what else I could try so any help would be appreciated. And no I really don't want to order a Real Tone Cable.

[caldaar]

Well, sounds like you are connecting it and using the Microphone mode. That is a feature of Microphone mode since it is designed for using it with an Acoustic guitar and the guitar itself is your guitar sound. It might be usable in that way to learn or it might still not recognize the notes correctly.

Unfortunately, when you don't use the correct cable then you don't end up with the correct results.

[Blidgu]

Originally posted by caldaar:

Well, sounds like you are connecting it and using the Microphone mode. That is a feature of Microphone mode since it is designed for using it with an Acoustic guitar and the guitar itself is your guitar sound. It might be usable in that way to learn or it might still not recognize the notes correctly.

Unfortunately, when you don't use the correct cable then you don't end up with the correct results.

Nope, I'm on Real Tone Cable mode.

[alexcustos]

That's probably the well-known issue with buffer size on Focusrite interfaces. Check that section at the very bottom of this page: https://github.com/mdias/rs_asio

[Chicken Tender Gary]

Originally posted by caldaar:

Unfortunately, when you don't use the correct cable then you don't end up with the correct results.

Nowhere does it say you can't use an interface, it literally says instead, plug right in and play. Tons of people can't use their interface with their game, like me, and it makes zero sense. I can plug my guitar in and use it as a midi controller thru cubase, but Rocksmith can't even recognize the input? looooooool

[grimlog]

Originally posted by BickDutt:

Originally posted by caldaar:

Unfortunately, when you don't use the correct cable then you don't end up with the correct results.

Nowhere does it say you can't use an interface, it literally says instead, plug right in and play. Tons of people can't use their interface with their game, like me, and it makes zero sense. I can plug my guitar in and use it as a midi controller thru cubase, but Rocksmith can't even recognize the input? looooooool

Store page says "The Rocksmith™ Real Tone Cable is not included with the purchase of Rocksmith™ on Steam and must be purchased separately."

*must* be purchased separately. *must*
Now, either my definition of "must" is off or yours.

[UbiRaziel]

Hello everyone!

I appreciate there's some alternating opinions here so I'd like to try to offer some light on the subject.

A Real Tone cable is required to play Rocksmith, as per our System Requirements support article: https://support.ubisoft.com/en-GB/faqs/18158/

There may be workarounds out there by the community to get around this, however what you're currently experiencing is intended behaviour.

All the best.

- Ubisoft Support

[REEEEEEEEEEEEE!]

I don't have a focusrite scarlett but this is what I've found. No harm in trying.

"Just thought I’d post what work for me and using my Scarlett solo with Rocksmith.

The 2 important things where…
Rocksmith only worked with input 1 on the Solo.
I had to disable all over recording and playback devices in windows."

[Blidgu]

So, if anyone is still having trouble, i figured it out. First you gotta unplug all other usb devices (except for your mouse/keyboard), then in RSASIO you put the channel of your interface to 1 (or 0 if it's already on 1) and put the interface as standard input device. Also input quality has to be 16 bit 48kHz DVD quality. Oh also restarting your computer with everything unplugged might help too.
Hope this helps anyone

[Chicken Tender Gary]

Originally posted by grimlog:

Originally posted by BickDutt:

Nowhere does it say you can't use an interface, it literally says instead, plug right in and play. Tons of people can't use their interface with their game, like me, and it makes zero sense. I can plug my guitar in and use it as a midi controller thru cubase, but Rocksmith can't even recognize the input? looooooool

Store page says "The Rocksmith™ Real Tone Cable is not included with the purchase of Rocksmith™ on Steam and must be purchased separately."

*must* be purchased separately. *must*
Now, either my definition of "must" is off or yours.

Notice: The Rocksmith™ Real Tone Cable is not included with the purchase of Rocksmith™ on Steam and must be purchased separately. Please see your local retailer or many online stores to purchase the Rocksmith™ Real Tone Cable.

*Must be purchased seperately doesn't mean you have to have it in order to play, it means Steam does not offer the cable themselves, which they don't.

*Must be purchased seperately in order to play the game would mean you have to have it in order to play the game.

Words are kind of really important. Nowhere does it say you must have the real tone cable in order to play, it just says you must purchase it seperately. Only if you dig deep on the Ubisoft website does it state you need the cable. But nowhere on STEAM does it state you need the cable, which is where I bought it.

It's like if Walmart sold Monopoly, but without all the pieces, and you needed to buy them seperately, but only put up a sign stating you can't buy the pieces here. Now, why would I need the pieces when I own Monopoly? Nowhere does it say the pieces to Monopoly aren't there, that's false advertisement. Now had the sign said "Board only, you need to buy the pieces in order to play!" Perfectly legal.

It makes no sense why I need a cable when audio interfaces do the same thing, but better.

[Blidgu]

Originally posted by BickDutt:

Originally posted by grimlog:

Store page says "The Rocksmith™ Real Tone Cable is not included with the purchase of Rocksmith™ on Steam and must be purchased separately."

*must* be purchased separately. *must*
Now, either my definition of "must" is off or yours.

Notice: The Rocksmith™ Real Tone Cable is not included with the purchase of Rocksmith™ on Steam and must be purchased separately. Please see your local retailer or many online stores to purchase the Rocksmith™ Real Tone Cable.

*Must be purchased seperately doesn't mean you have to have it in order to play, it means Steam does not offer the cable themselves, which they don't.

*Must be purchased seperately in order to play the game would mean you have to have it in order to play the game.

Words are kind of really important. Nowhere does it say you must have the real tone cable in order to play, it just says you must purchase it seperately. Only if you dig deep on the Ubisoft website does it state you need the cable. But nowhere on STEAM does it state you need the cable, which is where I bought it.

It's like if Walmart sold Monopoly, but without all the pieces, and you needed to buy them seperately, but only put up a sign stating you can't buy the pieces here. Now, why would I need the pieces when I own Monopoly? Nowhere does it say the pieces to Monopoly aren't there, that's false advertisement. Now had the sign said "Board only, you need to buy the pieces in order to play!" Perfectly legal.

It makes no sense why I need a cable when audio interfaces do the same thing, but better.

Also many people can't even get the cable anywhere. For me, I can only get it if I buy it with the game in a retail store, and even then, most don't even sell the game anymore. Making a game reliant on an exclusive cable when there are better and more available tools to use is such a weird concept to me. Even if I could buy the cable, I don't even want to. I have my interface that does the same thing and more, and does so better than the real tone cable so I don't see a point in buying practically a downgrade. In my opinion, the Real Tone Cable is a good addition to beginners that don't have an interface to get one along with the game, but it should still have native audio interface support. What the devs probably don't/didn't realize is that not only beginner guitarists buy this game, but also lots of professionals that just want to have some quick fun.

[alexcustos]

@Tino94
Don't take it too seriously. @caldaar believes that RTC is the only true piece of hardware because of the Ubisoft logo, and his mission is to spread this religion. I tried hard last year to knock some sense into him, but no luck.

[Blidgu]

Originally posted by alexcustos:

@Tino94
Don't take it too seriously. @caldaar believes that RTC is the only true piece of hardware because of the Ubisoft logo, and his mission is to spread this religion. I tried hard last year to knock some sense into him, but no luck.

Ahh, I see lol

[caldaar]

Originally posted by alexcustos:

@Tino94
Don't take it too seriously. @caldaar believes that RTC is the only true piece of hardware because of the Ubisoft logo, and his mission is to spread this religion. I tried hard last year to knock some sense into him, but no luck.

Ah, Alex! I missed you! Sure, I let people know what works and what doesn't. The offer is still open for you to be the main support for all interfaces. Here is your chance, GO!

Some get interfaces to work, great for them... Others have nothing but problems. The proper cable works, and when we run into rare issues they are usually minor. But, don't let me get in your way.. Take on the support.

[caldaar]

Originally posted by Tino94:

Also many people can't even get the cable anywhere. For me, I can only get it if I buy it with the game in a retail store, and even then, most don't even sell the game anymore. Making a game reliant on an exclusive cable when there are better and more available tools to use is such a weird concept to me. Even if I could buy the cable, I don't even want to. I have my interface that does the same thing and more, and does so better than the real tone cable so I don't see a point in buying practically a downgrade. In my opinion, the Real Tone Cable is a good addition to beginners that don't have an interface to get one along with the game, but it should still have native audio interface support. What the devs probably don't/didn't realize is that not only beginner guitarists buy this game, but also lots of professionals that just want to have some quick fun.

Would it be nice to have those options? Sure. Though I hear every day at my job how unrealistic items should be sooo easy.

So, here is an insight to development. What people think is easy is usually tons of code. Sure, somebody created a simple crack to make the game think your interface is a Realtone cable. But, then it is left to you to get it to work and a lot of people can't or end up with poor results. Not sure why people are not complaining to the creator of the crack, the support really should be there. But lets move on.

Now, for a business like UBI to get every interface to properly work for note detection: They have to purchase all of those interfaces or convince companies to hand them over for free. They will only hand them for free if they get advertising or expect a boost in sales so unlikely and people already complain about the current advertising.. For each device they have to verify any driver conflicts, write code to override settings, test, rewrite code, test again, figure out what settings cannot be overridden, create a database for frontline support on specific settings either in the driver software or on the devices along with issue logs because if they say they support them then they have to be able to support them. They would also have to train their frontline support on all of those devices. All of that requires thousands of lines of code and quite a few people to write, test, and support... That is money out the door for a very specific limited market of people, so to recoup those costs the price of the software would need to go up. Raise the cost, on a software people already complain about being too expensive, lowers how many would purchase it reducing any profit or ability to pay those added people.

Now, also keep in mind that bringing the software to PC was secondary. It actually wasn't available on PC till about 2-3 years after the release of the Original RS and MAC support didn't come out till RS 2014. If you haven't noticed the interface is developed to be centered around consoles. On Consoles, which is their main market base, interfaces would not work unless they built their own drivers to control all of those devices. So, all of that code would have been pointless bloat to the software in that environment. They did however create the drivers for your computer to allow you to use the same original cable from your console on your PC. That is the main reason RS was made available for download only, because majority of the people wanting it on PC already had the console version and the cable.

Now, sure they could create two versions... one with the bloat for computers the other without for consoles... But that would be a maintenance nightmare, and people would complain about the cost difference between the two since computer would have had to be more for the added work.

Then even after all that you still have idiots that will complain that they cant take a 1/4 in to 1/8 in adapter to plug directly into their computer... Think I am joking? Alex has been in a few of those discussions of people trying to do just that.

[caldaar]

Now, to Alex all of that will be too much to read.. He doesn't care of cost to customers or business.. He doesn't care about customer markets. And he doesn't care of the timeline of releases and how long and how much work it took just to get PC and MAC support much less the multiple updates needed for new OS and console versions over the 9 years that this has been out ... It should just be easy because he wants it.