Rocksmith® 2014 Edition - Remastered

Rocksmith® 2014 Edition - Remastered

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Always too quiet input
The game always complaints about too quiet input, no matter how often I adjust the input via the windows-hardware-thingy.
It always seems to reset it or adjust it itself just to tell mee the input is too quiet.
does anyone have an idea how to fix this?
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caldaar Dec 19, 2016 @ 2:09pm 
Well. First check to make sure you don't have active pickups (need a battery). If you do, replace the battery. Also, make sure your strings and pickups are clean..

If that is not it, potentially your pickup is too far away from the strings making your guitar quiet. You can google action and pickup height for your guitar to figure out how to correct that yourself, or a full setup at the shop will do it.
thats not the point. my guitar is fine. i guess that the game constantly adjusts the input level of the rocksmith cable and than complains about it being too quiet.
caldaar Dec 19, 2016 @ 2:37pm 
Of course everything is perfect with your guitar... So, question.. Why are you having issues when so many others are not?
my guitar has no active pickups and has been adjusted by a music store. nevertheless i always have an input-level in the windows hardware settings for the rocksmith cable (listed under microphones) that is lower than i have set it while gaming. today i had the game saying "too quiet input" and the level was at 11/100. i usualy set it to 75/100. so i guess the game lowers the input level.
Billy Rhubarb Dec 19, 2016 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by Carlos Satana:
i always have an input-level in the windows hardware settings for the rocksmith cable (listed under microphones) that is lower than i have set it while gaming. today i had the game saying "too quiet input" and the level was at 11/100. i usualy set it to 75/100. so i guess the game lowers the input level.

What? Don't do this. Keep your RTC input level maxed, turn up all the knobs on your guitar and then re-calibrate.
ChristmasMeat Dec 19, 2016 @ 8:40pm 
^ That, or, set the volume input to manual from the menu. I did that so I didn't have to calibrate often and it works great.
Seamower Dec 19, 2016 @ 9:45pm 
My answer is for Windows 10 (and possibly earlier) users with the low level problem (plus misdetecting low E string low notes on bass)..

1. Make sure you volume and tone knobs are max on your guitar or bass.

2. Before hitting the ENTER button on the white screen when RS 2014 starts, set the Windows Sound> Playback> Rocksmith USB Guitar Adapter> Properties> Levels to 100.

You have to do this EVERY TIME YOU START ROCKSMITH 2014. I just leave that Windows Level panel open in case I discover some other setting in Rocksmith messes with it.

3. Forget about the Calibration thing in Rocksmith for now until the devs post an fix that addresses they made recently that enabled other inputs. Otherwise, it will adjust your Windows sound level for the Rocksmith USB Guitar Adapter back down.
caldaar Dec 20, 2016 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by sleepwalker:
i use active and passive's on my guitars and my rocksmith is by default set to 19 .. i never move it i never turn it up to 100 i never have any issues with any of my guitars being to quiet.i would suggest you check your pickup height that can lower your output volume. I am not certain that will fix your iussue but like i said i leave everything where rocksmith puts it by defauly and i have 0 issues .

Exactly.. None of my guitars have any issues with being too quiet. Every one I have had setup at a shop recently.. Set the tone and volume knobs to max, leave the game settings to default, and calibrate... I have seen quite a few people come out here, say their guitars are perfect, then later after all of us press on it they have a shop do a setup... and problem fixed.

Temprature changes, bouncing the guitar around, enough times playing... Even just over time of sitting... The settings will change on a guitar... Having it checked doesn't hurt.
bean Dec 20, 2016 @ 10:01am 
While it is true that it works for most people (to the extent of their playing abilities :P obviously) and that most of the time it is an issue of intonation/pup distance/output quality, the idea that it is PERFECT is completely unfounded.

There is TONS of evidence proving otherwise. The note detection in this game is far from perfect and certain systems/instruments will undeniably have issues. They can stem from a plethora of causes (including those most commonly seen: intonation/pup height) but can also be affected by the type/freq/strength of the output signal. I have custom shop vintage pups that are INCREDIBLY sensitive and responsive, tickling a string produces an audible frequency and the setup + quality of pups allows me to play a note, put the bass down and go make a sandwich and come back and that note will still be resonating (sustained). Obviously this is GREAT for playing bass, but TERRIBLE for rocksmith. Unless I play completely staccato there is invariably some "bleeding over" that causes issues with the detection suite that you wouldn't see running that same bass through a conventional rig.

Adding to this, the type of hardware that is afforded to Rocksmith can greatly influence the effectiveness of the detection suite. That is just the nature of video games and why AAA developers prefer closed environments like consoles over less-than-stable PC environments. The whole "it works for me so it must be you" mentality you see on PC game forums is short-sighted and based on misinformation. The advice is great and obviously YOU SHOULD START there, check your intonation, measure your pups, get that action right and mess with the settings in the game and outside to try to get the most out of your Rocksmith experience, but don't be dissuaded by people that scream "it works for me, get gud" because there are CERTAINLY issues. Sometimes, rocksmith is their first attempt at serious learning and they don't know any better and other times it is a lack of experience with apps like this compounded by the fact that it ALMOST ALWAYS comes down to set-ups that leads them to make comments like "it works for me soooooo, get gud"

no app is perfect, no system is the same and people have VASTLY different techniques, there is huge headroom for issues... once you have ruled out the obvious, don't be surprised if you still have issues... It is not perfect... not even close...
bean Dec 20, 2016 @ 10:04am 
also, stop paying people to set-up your instruments, learn how to do it yourself and you save yourself the money and time as well as INSTANTLY ruling out intonation issues as they occur. THis is not specific to rocksmith but musicianship as a whole.
bean Dec 20, 2016 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by Rogue203:
Originally posted by bean:
While it is true that it works for most people (to the extent of their playing abilities :P obviously) and that most of the time it is an issue of intonation/pup distance/output quality, the idea that it is PERFECT is completely unfounded.

No one has ever said it was perfect, but a lot of folks blame RS for problems that are because ot their own misunderstanding of how RS works.

Given the number of factors that influence the accuracy of RS, people that come in here and refuse to acknowledge that their own instrument or knowledge might be the cause of their problems are going to be questioned rigorously.

Originally posted by bean:
I have custom shop vintage pups that are INCREDIBLY sensitive and responsive, tickling a string produces an audible frequency and the setup + quality of pups allows me to play a note, put the bass down and go make a sandwich and come back and that note will still be resonating (sustained). Obviously this is GREAT for playing bass, but TERRIBLE for rocksmith. Unless I play completely staccato there is invariably some "bleeding over" that causes issues with the detection suite that you wouldn't see running that same bass through a conventional rig.

Other than bragging about your pickups and instrument, I do not understand your point it. The fact that your instrument has good sustain has little to no impact on RS. I have a number of of Les Pauls that will sustain for quite a long time, I have few issues with note detection in RS and I do not play staccato unless required for the song.

Originally posted by bean:
The whole "it works for me so it must be you" mentality you see on PC game forums is short-sighted and based on misinformation.

This forum, and the old RS forum have been filled with people that provide assistance for problems. While the "it works for me" excuse comes out periodically, it is certainly not the majority of the information provided.

Originally posted by bean:
Sometimes, rocksmith is their first attempt at serious learning and they don't know any better and other times it is a lack of experience with apps like this compounded by the fact that it ALMOST ALWAYS comes down to set-ups that leads them to make comments like "it works for me soooooo, get gud"

But yet in your next post, you tell people to setup their own instruments. A professional setup, even if you can do it yourself, can still be beneficial. How many major musicians setup their own gear? How many pay for dedicated guitar techs? For folks coming in here that are new to RS and new to guitar are certainly not going to understand how to perform a good setup.




Stop trying to bait an argument man, you are chopping up my posts in various threads in order to make it seem like I am saying or implying something else than what I am sharing for the sake of the OP, meanwhile providing the same information I was imparting as some sort of retort... in multiple threads.

If you were offended by my dismissal of the "it works for me so it must be you" trolls, I apologize but considering I don't know you and I have never spoken to you; nor have I linked your posts or made comments to/or in reference of you, it is pretty clear that it was not aimed at you.

You can buy and use the custom shop vintage jazz pups at most online retailers for about the same price as other entry/middle of the road pups, the idea that someone would be bragging about this in a forum full of people who are familiar with music instruments is preposterous and nothing more than underlying insecurities. It is just a type of pup bro, and not something people would brag about. http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender/Custom-Shop-60s-J-Bass-Pickup-Set.gc

come on now...

Finally, learning to set up your own instruments is IMPERATIVE for all musicians. True, pros have techs, but that doesn't mean they can't set up their instruments, come on man... the idea is to help people, not bog them down with misinformation for the sake of attention.

Back on topic:
As I mentioned before... ONCE YOU HAVE ELIMINATED the most common issues do not be surprised if note detection is still off, it happens. That is the nature of gaming on open platforms. It is a good idea to listen to advice but IGNORE PEOPLE WHO DOGMATICALLY EMPHASIZE PEBKAC when evidence and experience both show that the possibility for hardware conflicts is real.
Last edited by bean; Dec 20, 2016 @ 11:14am
caldaar Dec 20, 2016 @ 12:21pm 
bean,

He is not baiting you for an argument. There are people like Rogue and I that have been helping other players on these threads since the release of RS1 on console, and continued since the release on PC. Both of us have dealt with almost every single issue known to RS and understand it's flaws as well as what is not typically a flaw in the game. We are not saying the software is perfect, but we do understand when the problem being addressed is a problem with the software, or not.

Yes, certain guitars have sustain that can go on forever, or other quirks... But as you pointed out, there are skills that people need to learn in order to become a great musician... And one of those skills would be to understand the guitar that you are using, and to mute those sustains when the song does not want the note to be sustained. It would not be the fault of the software if it counts something wrong when you have an extra wrong sustain playing in the background. If you were to do that same on stage... I am guesing your band and fans wouldn't appreciate it either.

As far as setups go... I do agree that it is benificial to learn how to setup your own guitar. But for a new guitar player that can't even fret a note correctly on the 12th fret... How good of a job do you think they are going to do in correcting an intonation problem? And if they set it up according to their incorrect guitar skills... How is that going to help them improve their playing? If you setup the intonation according to a bent note, then you will always have to bend that note to get it to register.

And the same goes for every other part of the setup... If you set an action according to hard picking, you are going to end up with a string too high trying to get rid of buzz.. and so on.

Even people that have been setting up their own guitars for years may have been setting them up incorrectly... And it took a software like Rocksmith to point it out. So, it is not unresonable to request that people have a shop setup their guitar by someone that has made a career out of knowing every aspect of what makes a guitar work.

I did not see you disagree with any of my points on how settings on a guitar will shift. That setups do need to be repeated.. That environment and handling of the guitar can speed up those shifts in settings... And that is because I was providing accurate information... Information that the OP may not be aware of, or may have forgotten. You know... what is called helping... Opposite of Trolling

We come out here to help those that are having problems that they do not know how to fix it. And when we know the fix, or at least what will fix your problems 99.9% of the time... and we get a response by the OP that their guitar/computer/whatever is perfect... Like we have never heard that before... The only help we have left is pointing out that the fix we are suggesting has fixed the problem for every single person that was willing to listen over the past 8 years. And we provide that point as a sales pitch that it is information worth listening to. If you don't like the sales pitch... talk to my boss, as I don't have one and am not getting paid for my attempts to help.

Rocksmith has even tried adding leveling options in the software to assist with people that have guitars that are not setup correctly.. Specifically because of the quite guitar issue with pickups and action not setup correctly... But simply, the software can only do so much. If you are unwilling to take care of your instrument, then you cannot expect a software to completely correct your issues. If you have done what even you agreed was the correct first step, then we can talk and see what else could be causing your problem, because then it is new to me, but I might be able to help figure it out.

And Rogue will also be jumping in helping too...
Last edited by caldaar; Dec 20, 2016 @ 1:02pm
bean Dec 20, 2016 @ 1:17pm 
You guys seem to be responding without reading my posts so I will be as succint as possible:

1- I have never said that guitars don't need to be set up, or that they don't need be maintained.

2- I have acknowledged from my very first post that it is ALMOST always an issue of intonation or general setup and user inexperience. However; as with all software, there are incomaptibilities that can occur.

3- If you have these issues but have exhausted many of the quick fixes found on the interweb and your instruments are spot on... then you just may have issues that are software/hardware related. I went on to provide an example of these issues that can stem from a very specific {in this case} reason.

4- Don't listen to people who refuse to understand the issues but instead resort to passive aggressive statements like "works for me, get gud", this obviously has no bearing whatsoever on the posts that provide help, that is just asinine.

The topic sentence in my first post, which has gone unedited, explains all of this... the very first sentence shows that what you are purporting I am saying has nothing to do with what I am saying.
Last edited by bean; Dec 20, 2016 @ 1:21pm
caldaar Dec 20, 2016 @ 2:21pm 
Ok, so bean... This is an attempt to clear things up, and yes I did fully read your posts multiple times to make sure I was understanding before responding. And this is coming from someone that used to work in a computer helpdesk....


Originally posted by bean:
While it is true that it works for most people (to the extent of their playing abilities :P obviously) and that most of the time it is an issue of intonation/pup distance/output quality,

So, there you are saying the advice given was the correct advice... We are all in agreement. Well, except intonation does not play into this, but pup distance and output quality do... all three would be fixed by a shop doing a full setup, or at least they would point out a potential loose connection on a POT, or connecter, or a possibly bad pickup... giving a quote for it to be fixed.

Originally posted by bean:
the idea that it is PERFECT is completely unfounded.

Nobody said anywhere in this thread that the software is PERFECT. Maybe this is carry over from something you read in a different thread?... Upset with some of the people helping? And as I am typing this, I am going back reading through the thread to make sure... What you do have is people stating their configurations and how it is working for them. That can be considered helpful and is a way that they are attempting to support the suggested solution that the OP is refusing to take.

To be fair.... You do have one other person that is suggesting they have to do some major level adjustments everytime they run the software... But that one should probably have their guitar checked also. I didn't address them because they are not asking for help.

Originally posted by bean:
There is TONS of evidence proving otherwise. The note detection in this game is far from perfect and certain systems/instruments will undeniably have issues. They can stem from a plethora of causes (including those most commonly seen: intonation/pup height) but can also be affected by the type/freq/strength of the output signal. I have custom shop vintage pups that are INCREDIBLY sensitive and responsive, tickling a string produces an audible frequency and the setup + quality of pups allows me to play a note, put the bass down and go make a sandwich and come back and that note will still be resonating (sustained). Obviously this is GREAT for playing bass, but TERRIBLE for rocksmith. Unless I play completely staccato there is invariably some "bleeding over" that causes issues with the detection suite that you wouldn't see running that same bass through a conventional rig.

Adding to this, the type of hardware that is afforded to Rocksmith can greatly influence the effectiveness of the detection suite. That is just the nature of video games and why AAA developers prefer closed environments like consoles over less-than-stable PC environments. The whole "it works for me so it must be you" mentality you see on PC game forums is short-sighted and based on misinformation. The advice is great and obviously YOU SHOULD START there, check your intonation, measure your pups, get that action right and mess with the settings in the game and outside to try to get the most out of your Rocksmith experience, but don't be dissuaded by people that scream "it works for me, get gud" because there are CERTAINLY issues. Sometimes, rocksmith is their first attempt at serious learning and they don't know any better and other times it is a lack of experience with apps like this compounded by the fact that it ALMOST ALWAYS comes down to set-ups that leads them to make comments like "it works for me soooooo, get gud"

no app is perfect, no system is the same and people have VASTLY different techniques, there is huge headroom for issues... once you have ruled out the obvious, don't be surprised if you still have issues... It is not perfect... not even close...

All that... Most of it is about note detection... It would be helpfull if we were in a discussion about note detection... We are not... Not one person said "it works for me, get gud". And again, not one single person suggested the software was perfect. So no need to stress problems that have nothing to do with the OP's question.

We are in a discussion about a very specific issue in regards to the software giving a message to the user about a "Quiet Guitar". Now, is there possibly some specific type of guitar setup that is always quite needing you to crank your amp to a much higher level then every other guitar? Possibly... Which would be a very rare case, but you do not try to troubleshoot a problem by attacking the least likely issue first.

Most likely, (and NOTE, I recognize you agree on this...) it is a problem with the guitar. Pointing that out, and making that the main focus of your post, would have been helpful. Which was a little more clear in your third post... But, again, you keep coming back to the

Originally posted by bean:
Don't listen to people who refuse to understand the issues but instead resort to passive aggressive statements like "works for me, get gud"

Which since there is not a single person that said that in this thread, can only be related to those of us trying to point out that we have multiple guitars setup correctly and none of them have the quiet guitar issue. Or those of us pointing out that there are many people we have helped with this specific issue and a good setup corrected it.

That isn't helping. The only possible "help" it could provide, is to give the OP support for not listening to the people that are "trying to help". And less encouragement for him to actually try and have a shop correct his problem.

And yes, I read again, multiple times through your first, second, and third posts... You may want to re-read throught them again to see if you can understand my point.
caldaar Dec 20, 2016 @ 2:30pm 
And I do tend to edit my posts to correct Grammer or spelling errors. Example I should go back and correct from referencing your third posts when it was forth or last post that I meant...
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