Contrast is way too high and other lightning issue.

[marvinn]

There seems to be something very wrong with how the game handles lightning.
The contrast between bright parts of the world and ie shadows or shaded areas is way too high.
Where the bright areas look mostly good, the shaded ones are almost entirely black. And don't even make me start on insides of the buildings when looking from the outside.
Same goes for trees, when you look at them from where the sun is shining on them they look normal, but when looking from the shaded side the're almost black.

I'm playing on highest settings in HDR on a QD-OLED monitor, so my screen is definitely not the issue. I've even increased brightness to 60 and it helped, only slightly. If you go higher then that then the brightly lit areas will be too bright.

Other issue is constantly adjusting overall brightness of the scene as you travel, it's very annoying and distracting from overall great game, so far anyway.

Any chance devs will fix this? Was the original game on PS4 the same?

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Don't use HDR if you have an OLED seriously.
Try turning of HDR and see if that fixes it.

OLEDS allready give excelent colors and Blacks and Whites turning on HDR on them in some games can serriously exaggerate it.

[Valkynaz]

Yeah, dark areas are beyond dark, some of the missions have felt near impossible due to taking place a night, i've noticed that turning off HDR makes the issue nowhere near as bad... but I also have a HDR monitor for a reason LOL

Edit: Ignore that, I just tried with HDR turned off and it's worse... and dark areas all look washed out and ugly to boot, strange since it wasn't doing that before

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Originally posted by Valkynaz:

Yeah, dark areas are beyond dark, some of the missions have felt near impossible due to taking place a night, i've noticed that turning off HDR makes the issue nowhere near as bad... but I also have a HDR monitor for a reason LOL

Almost all montinors/TVs are HDR now a days. just because its there you Don't have to use it if it feels and looks better without it in a game your playing at that momment.

[Valkynaz]

Originally posted by Zordiark Darkeater:

Originally posted by Valkynaz:

Yeah, dark areas are beyond dark, some of the missions have felt near impossible due to taking place a night, i've noticed that turning off HDR makes the issue nowhere near as bad... but I also have a HDR monitor for a reason LOL

Almost all montinors/TVs are HDR now a days. just because its there you Don't have to use it if it feels and looks better without it in a game your playing at that momment.

Everything looks washed out and nothing pops like with having it, it'll depend on the monitor or not but I've found this game looks better with HDR turned on then off.

And honestly, I'll take the extra difficulty of being near blind inside over how... flat and bland the game looks without it.

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Originally posted by Valkynaz:

Originally posted by Zordiark Darkeater:

Almost all montinors/TVs are HDR now a days. just because its there you Don't have to use it if it feels and looks better without it in a game your playing at that momment.

Everything looks washed out and nothing pops like with having it, it'll depend on the monitor or not but I've found this game looks better with HDR turned on then off.

And honestly, I'll take the extra difficulty of being near blind inside over how... flat and bland the game looks without it.

On a non Oled screen i agree.

[ShadowSkill11]

Lightings fine. Most of you using HDR just don’t know how to calibrate your displays. HDR isn’t really a plug and play technology.

[Valkynaz]

Originally posted by ShadowSkill11:

Lightings fine. Most of you using HDR just don’t know how to calibrate your displays. HDR isn’t really a plug and play technology.

I'm wondering if that was my problem, decided to go back through the Windows HDR calibration tool and realised I had set my minimum setting too low (Set it to 0.0 and not 0.3) but will take more playing to know if it's better or not (Worst place for the lighting issue is, unfortunately, locked off and no idea where to go to test properly)

[Kawaiian Pizza]

Originally posted by ShadowSkill11:

Lightings fine. Most of you using HDR just don’t know how to calibrate your displays. HDR isn’t really a plug and play technology.

It should be for steam decks and its dark as hell on those.

[🔥🌶️AncientPepper💥🔥]

Originally posted by marvinn:

There seems to be something very wrong with how the game handles lightning.
The contrast between bright parts of the world and ie shadows or shaded areas is way too high.
Where the bright areas look mostly good, the shaded ones are almost entirely black. And don't even make me start on insides of the buildings when looking from the outside.
Same goes for trees, when you look at them from where the sun is shining on them they look normal, but when looking from the shaded side the're almost black.

I'm playing on highest settings in HDR on a QD-OLED monitor, so my screen is definitely not the issue. I've even increased brightness to 60 and it helped, only slightly. If you go higher then that then the brightly lit areas will be too bright.

Other issue is constantly adjusting overall brightness of the scene as you travel, it's very annoying and distracting from overall great game, so far anyway.

Any chance devs will fix this? Was the original game on PS4 the same?

if you nvidia customer, do alt+f3 in game menu and use nvdia filter for raise luminance, hdr power, light, shadow etc... ; set up hdr on in game with suggest value 1000/200; this is what i do for improve darkness in game.

[5ean5ean]

Just calibrate your settings in the options menu, turning off HDR if you have it is the dumbest advice ever.

[marvinn]

Originally posted by ShadowSkill11:

Lightings fine. Most of you using HDR just don’t know how to calibrate your displays. HDR isn’t really a plug and play technology.

Well, I can't speak for anyone but myself and all I can say I have calibrated HDR in Windows and I am using correct in-game settings for my display.

This is not even an HDR issue, mate. Dark elements in this game are simply way too dark.

It almost looks like there is no form of global illumination, you know the effect first used in Crysis 2 back in 2011 afair.

It's like the game doesn't "simulate" light bouncing of objects, or does it very poorly, and only illuminates whatever is in direct light. The perfect example is when you're inside of a building, the sun is shining through a huge window or door and only that part in direct sunlight is bright while everything in the room is very dark. This is not how windows work lol.

[Aid of Healer]

Originally posted by 🔥🌶️AncientPepper💥🔥:

Originally posted by marvinn:

There seems to be something very wrong with how the game handles lightning.
The contrast between bright parts of the world and ie shadows or shaded areas is way too high.
Where the bright areas look mostly good, the shaded ones are almost entirely black. And don't even make me start on insides of the buildings when looking from the outside.
Same goes for trees, when you look at them from where the sun is shining on them they look normal, but when looking from the shaded side the're almost black.

I'm playing on highest settings in HDR on a QD-OLED monitor, so my screen is definitely not the issue. I've even increased brightness to 60 and it helped, only slightly. If you go higher then that then the brightly lit areas will be too bright.

Other issue is constantly adjusting overall brightness of the scene as you travel, it's very annoying and distracting from overall great game, so far anyway.

Any chance devs will fix this? Was the original game on PS4 the same?

if you nvidia customer, do alt+f3 in game menu and use nvdia filter for raise luminance, hdr power, light, shadow etc... ; set up hdr on in game with suggest value 1000/200; this is what i do for improve darkness in game.

solid advice, It looks so iffy on the PC compared to my PS5. Like a half baked port

[Eclisis]

Originally posted by Zordiark Darkeater:

Don't use HDR if you have an OLED seriously.
Try turning of HDR and see if that fixes it.

OLEDS allready give excelent colors and Blacks and Whites turning on HDR on them in some games can serriously exaggerate it.

spoken like somebody who doesn't have an OLED

[Valkynaz]

So I finally got into a building where the lighting could be tested, my re-calibrating my HDR settings did jack, also tried turning off HDR and found I could see even less?

[Aid of Healer]

Originally posted by Valkynaz:

So I finally got into a building where the lighting could be tested, my re-calibrating my HDR settings did jack, also tried turning off HDR and found I could see even less?

if you're using nvidia press alt f3 and add some filters to help with lighting and colour. It goes a longgggg way.

Better than whatever this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ port is