How come Dualsense features only work wired?

[Abc]

Really nitpicky thing but having my dualsense triggers and haptics work wirelessly in R&C really changed my outlook with these PS ports, so I was pretty disappointed to start this and have only basic rumble until plugging in with USB and having to fix the speaker switching annoyance. Just wondering if it's something that'll be patched in later or if it just can't be done for some games.

[Komarimaru]

Because few PC's have 8+ active Bluetooth connectivity functionality. Yes the PS5 controller has that many independent connections.

[Abc]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Because few PC's have 8+ active Bluetooth connectivity functionality. Yes the PS5 controller has that many independent connections.

? Again, previous nixxes ports through bluetooth just fine, it's just GoT that didn't launch with the support.

[Flappy Pannus]

Originally posted by Abc:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Because few PC's have 8+ active Bluetooth connectivity functionality. Yes the PS5 controller has that many independent connections.

? Again, previous nixxes ports through bluetooth just fine, it's just GoT that didn't launch with the support.

If GoT doesn't support _any_ form of rumble over bluetooth that's not great, but as far as haptic rumble specifically, there is no game with haptics working when over bluetooth on the PC.

Some people on Reddit claimed it does because they feel *any* form of rumble over bluetooth, but that is not haptic rumble, just standard. You can definitely notice a difference when you use your DS wireless with Ratchet and Clank then plug it in, the rumble feedback is different. People think Ratchet and Clank has haptic support over bluetooth because of the "experiential" rumble setting, all that does it just add more standard rumble for more game actions, most Insomniac games have this, even under the PS5. It has nothing to do with haptics though.

You'll notice there are separate settings for advanced haptics in R&C and this setting in the PC options as well, which wouldn't be necessary if they addressed the same thing. Turn off the advanced haptics setting in R&C, but keep the "experiential" setting on, and there's no difference over bluetooth. However, there definitely is when you use it over wired.

Sony recently added adaptive triggers support over bluetooth, which is also helping to add to the confusion - you get adjustable triggers, then get some rumble effects and people think that means the DS is now fully operational over bluetooth, but it's not. Haptics with the DS are delivered via audio, a single bluetooth connection can not do that reliably with the latency required for a game.

(Not to mention even when wired, the haptics are lacking in most PC implementations I've found. Both Spiderman and R&C have decidely weaker haptic feedback than the same titles natively on the PS5, and haven't checked recently but Ratchet and Clank in particular didn't have haptic trigger feedback for shooting, or that it differs significantly with how it feels on R&C PS5.)

Bear in mind I don't think it's 'nitpicky' at all, this has been an issue since the DS got PC support. Sony should really at least bring out a dedicated dongle for it like they did with the DS4. You should not have to play in wired in 2024 to get all features of a controller.

[Trevor Reznik]

Yup R&C supported them wirelessly yet now we’re back with wired only with both Horizon FW and GoT?

[Flappy Pannus]

Originally posted by Trevor Reznik:

Yup R&C supported them wirelessly

No, they didn't.

[RooeeZe]

i just turn mine on and everything just works (shout out todd) over BT, pulling things with the grapple hook and force feedback for bows tighten the triggers. All I ever did was sync it to my PC once.

[Flappy Pannus]

Originally posted by RooeeZe:

i just turn mine on and everything just works (shout out todd) over BT, pulling things with the grapple hook and force feedback for bows tighten the triggers. All I ever did was sync it to my PC once.

Adaptive triggers work wirelessly and have for some time as I explained above. You don't get haptic rumble over bluetooth though.