Is this game somewhat historically accurate, unlike AC Shadows?

[Kyowyn]

Title, been forever since I walked the path of the Samurai.

[Vault Traveler]

Publicado originalmente por RevelationSpace:

No, Ghost of Tsushima is not historically accurate.

AC Shadows is based on a true story, it's 100% accurate.

100% Like in its a documentary game for educational purposes?

[Darth Revan]

the game does not offer an accurate depiction of the samurai of the time the game is set in, but that was a deliberate decission for gameplay reasons.

there is not a single period accurate armor set in the game, the armors generally are all from a later period in japanese history, the armor that looks the closest to what a samurai of the time period the game is set in actually would have worn is gosakus armor but even that armor has elements of later period armors to it.

the katana at that time also was not a widely used weapon yet, samurai in that time would have used a tachi, which has a longer blade than a katana has. (also the main melee weapon of chice were polearms/spears)

and the most important thing: samurai of that time were horse archers, no melee troops and the code of honor did not really exist in that way during that time yet either.

but the game is amazing regarldess, none of this really harms the game if you ask me.

[s0d0]

The devs themselves stated that they only wanted to create a believable japanese theme and took inspiration from history.
Other than that, nothing is really of historic value in this game.

And as far as AC: Shadows goes, this game will have or already has much bigger problems than historical accuracy or a main character of whatever heritage.

[CH13F]

quarter accurate.

[Ol'Chum]

It isn't historical but it's setting/time period accurate. So it makes it really immersive.

[Ol'Chum]

Publicado originalmente por ZeoHSTheGr8:

Publicado originalmente por erazerhead99:

Can we just agree that a capable Black Warrior in 15XX Japan is theoretically possible, but that the game, it's story and historical feasability will nonetheless 100% be utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, because it is a UbiSoft game?

This.

The problem is. the first promotional media about AC shadows was a mugshot of black 'samurai'. Weeks pass and now they say that both characters are LGTV+ and yet we still haven't heard anything about gameplay or story. This zealous focus of DEI and identity politics is the reason why I am so hostile to it, not because of Yasuke. It's reaching levels of absurdity

[Twink_Versatile]

Publicado originalmente por Shirakani:

It's 'accurate' as in there's no modern day mental illness politics and other woke cancer getting in the way of the setting. It's Japanese vs Mongolians all the way through. Classic 'good vs evil' as it were.

There's no token black guy.
There's no token alphabet souper
There's no coin flip gender changer
None of that cancerous garbage.

But if you ask if it's historically accurate in the sense of 'can you tie events to actual history' then, no. None of the characters actually existed. Khotun Khan is completely fictional, Genghis Khan did not have a brother named Khotun.

The only thing that's realistic is the depiction of the island of Tsushima during that time period and the people. There are no personages that actually exist in history that appear in the game on either side. They took a setting, made an original cast for it and kept it as realistic as possible without stepping over any lines like Ubisoft.

That's this game in a nutshell.

tl;dr = swing sword, chop much hed, funs very.

Actually, there's a guy lamenting the death of his male lover. Plus, did you just skip over Masako's questline?

Not that the inclusion of either of those things is problematic, but you seem to have warped your own perception of what's in the game to protect your view of it being positive.

[Bdestiny]

Another clown added to my block list

[Twink_Versatile]

Publicado originalmente por Ol'Chum:

Publicado originalmente por ZeoHSTheGr8:

This.

The problem is. the first promotional media about AC shadows was a mugshot of black 'samurai'. Weeks pass and now they say that both characters are LGTV+ and yet we still haven't heard anything about gameplay or story. This zealous focus of DEI and identity politics is the reason why I am so hostile to it, not because of Yasuke. It's reaching levels of absurdity

Here's the plot twist: this is done to keep the general population fighting amongst themselves along the lines of some crusade for or against. Unprecedented levels of wealth polarization also require unprecedented levels of propaganda and hate-stoking to distract people from the issues that actually need fixing.

Hard to notice the boot on your neck when you're sharpening knives meant for your neighbor.

[Mjr.Death]

Publicado originalmente por Nifty:

Arguing what is historically accurate in a historical fiction game is something else

FICTION!? You mean to tell me the head of the catholic church did not really wield a mind controlling staff?

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

There are no documents that suggest Yasuke was a Sam Mule Rice in AC. Don't use Wilki as your source.

For Casper of Sashimi, the Mongol Invasion is a true historical event but the story of the main protagonist is fictional. Also, the Mongols weren't defeated by "Super Samurais", something many weebs believes. They were really unlucky to have their fleet destroyed twice by the Typhoon on both attempts. What are the odds! Though we wouldn't and will never know if the Mongols would be successful if the Typhoon did not happen.

[Mjr.Death]

Publicado originalmente por Ol'Chum:

Publicado originalmente por ZeoHSTheGr8:

This.

The problem is. the first promotional media about AC shadows was a mugshot of black 'samurai'. Weeks pass and now they say that both characters are LGTV+ and yet we still haven't heard anything about gameplay or story. This zealous focus of DEI and identity politics is the reason why I am so hostile to it, not because of Yasuke. It's reaching levels of absurdity

I don’t know why so many people decided they’re both gay and to keep parroting that from a vague comment about how they’ll have unique relationships with eachother and others because of how different the two of them are. Oh and we do know a lot about gameplay but I suppose whatever you’re parroting forgot to mention anything about building up and customizing your hideout, how both characters share the same weapons but they'll function different, and how they’re going with more lighting based stealth. We also know that Yasuke can’t social stealth, shocking. Also there’s gonna be seasons and weather which greatly affect how you stealth.
Edit: Do I expect the game to be a buggy pile of garbage at launch? Yes. Do I think people are blowing a comment about how the one creed game where you can freely play as two different people who aren't supposed to be the same person will treat people differently is being blown out of the water? Also yes. Which reminds me of a gameplay feature I forgot, you can freely swap between both characters outside of their unique story missions. Think Spiderman 2.

[Mr0Mally95]

Yup, 100 percent accurate. As a one man army you drive back the mongolian invasion just like it happened in real life.

[Sul Haren]

Its a completely romanticized story. The whole honor code did not exist, many of the armors worn are from later periods, no Samurai would have any issue with fighting like Jin does and obviously the Mongol invasion played out completely differently too.

This game has far more inaccuracies than what we have seen of AC Shadows so far.

Now is Ghost of Tsushima a much better game than Shadows will probably be? Yes, likely.
It just doesn't care about history at all.

[Sul Haren]

Publicado originalmente por Shirakani:

It's 'accurate' as in there's no modern day mental illness politics and other woke cancer getting in the way of the setting. It's Japanese vs Mongolians all the way through. Classic 'good vs evil' as it were.

There's no token black guy.
There's no token alphabet souper
There's no coin flip gender changer
None of that cancerous garbage.

But if you ask if it's historically accurate in the sense of 'can you tie events to actual history' then, no. None of the characters actually existed. Khotun Khan is completely fictional, Genghis Khan did not have a brother named Khotun.

The only thing that's realistic is the depiction of the island of Tsushima during that time period and the people. There are no personages that actually exist in history that appear in the game on either side. They took a setting, made an original cast for it and kept it as realistic as possible without stepping over any lines like Ubisoft.

That's this game in a nutshell.

tl;dr = swing sword, chop much hed, funs very.

Note that the "woke cancer" token black guy is more accurate than this games characters anyway. Also Ghost of Tsushima does indeed feature gay and lesbian characters.