Sekiro vs Jin Sakai?

[VisciousFishes]

Okay, we have all heard those conversations about "who would win in a fight between Superman or Batman." Or similar conversations of insert "X vs Y." We even had the t.v. program "Celebrity Death Match" back in the day.

So, my question to you is - who would win in a fight between Sekiro and Jin Sakai? Shinobi Vs Samurai, yes. This is a full spec fight with their associated abilities and tools.

I ask because I am about to finish G.O.T. and have done a few completions of Sekiro.

[Piderman]

I´d say Jin has the upper hand here. As Samurai, he is used to open, honest combat, but also knows how a person like Sekiro thinks and acts, as he had resort to the same methods at times.

[VisciousFishes]

Originally posted by Piderman:

I´d say Jin has the upper hand here. As Samurai, he is used to open, honest combat, but also knows how a person like Sekiro thinks and acts, as he had resort to the same methods at times.

I think some of Sekiro's prosthetics might tip the balance quite a bit. For instance the Mist Raven tool would make landing hits troublesome. I feel each of Sekiro's prosthetic tools are specifically designed to tip the balance which would make the fight quite close.

[Cwusadew]

Originally posted by Piderman:

I´d say Jin has the upper hand here. As Samurai, he is used to open, honest combat, but also knows how a person like Sekiro thinks and acts, as he had resort to the same methods at times.

Jin is just completely outclassed here imo. Sekiro has consistently gone up against people well beyond Jin's skill level, and just strength in general. Prosthetics would also just further the gap, as they're able to deal massive damage. Most of his fights are also just fought in person, without resorting to stealth or other tricks to weaken his enemy first.

[Altair de Firen]

Sekiro is, like, a demigod, whereas Jin is just a man. Sekiro would annihilate him if they ever came to blows.

[senator-armstrong]

SEKIRO no diffs every time

[VisciousFishes]

Interesting thoughts, thanks for your responses.

I asked because Sekiro is the ultimate Samurai assassin with the skill set to stand toe-to-toe with Jin Sakai. Sekiro is built and has a skill set specificly tailored to fighting samurai like Jin. The mikiri counter would nullify some of the stances that Jin has access to, as much as Jin has access to stances that would counter the prosthetic tools like the Spear. I don't see Jin being able to effectively use more than 2 stances out of the four available to him though.

The shuriken and kunai score about equal for medium ranged attacks and both fighters have access to parrying thrown weapons. In fact both fighters have access to kunai in different forms.

So there are ways in which Sekiro on paper looks like he would win, but then Jin is no slouch in one on one combat. It would be a slug-fest.

[HandsOfTheFellOmen]

Originally posted by Piderman:

I´d say Jin has the upper hand here. As Samurai, he is used to open, honest combat, but also knows how a person like Sekiro thinks and acts, as he had resort to the same methods at times.

Skillwise Jin is talented, but Sekiro has fought opponents FAR above Jin's level. DoH, Divine Dragon, Owl, Lady Butterfly, Genichiro, and especially Isshin(SS) are simply above anything that Jin could do. He's constrained by the fact that he takes place in a realistic game, while Sekiro is actively immortal and kills gods.

[Lurking Buddha]

Jin never fought no demon of hatred.

[Alexoferith]

Originally posted by Lurking Buddha:

Jin never fought no demon of hatred.

LOL Good one... yeah..

[Jeanne d'Arc]

Sekiro fights heavenly beings while Jin fights only mortal men

[Adiemus]

Jhin easily. All souls-games (Sekiro included) plays exculsively retroactively, i.e. Sekiro wait for enemy to attack, dodge or parry and only then giving 1-2 attacks. Rinse and repeat.
Jhin, on the other hand, has plenty of options, both for attacking and defending and can fight proactively. If Jhin will act same way - Sekiro's brain cells will receive short circuit cuz he is not prepared for such defensive enemy.

[VisciousFishes]

Originally posted by Adiemus:

Jhin easily. All souls-games (Sekiro included) plays exculsively retroactively, i.e. Sekiro wait for enemy to attack, dodge or parry and only then giving 1-2 attacks. Rinse and repeat.
Jhin, on the other hand, has plenty of options, both for attacking and defending and can fight proactively. If Jhin will act same way - Sekiro's brain cells will receive short circuit cuz he is not prepared for such defensive enemy.

The wolf can fight proactively too. In fact I would say that Jin is nowhere near as powerful as Genichiro or Ishin, both of whom were beaten by Sekiro.

[Adiemus]

Originally posted by VisciousFishes:

The wolf can fight proactively too. In fact I would say that Jin is nowhere near as powerful as Genichiro or Ishin, both of whom were beaten by Sekiro.

Isn't both of them attacking Wolf while he's just waiting to parry few times, dodge few times and attack few times in the small time window?
but i agree that both of them - Jhin and Wolf - will not have dashes across all the arena and aoe attack all over the place with autopiloting blows.