Yotei was going to be a sequel with Jin as the main character?

[Tevaul]

WTF suckerpunch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McO9qi0OnbU

[N Harmonia]

There's been a rather tiresome trend recently, where games with male leads get sequels where they're replaced by female ones.

- The Last of Us had Joel, a male character with a believable character arc and emotions, guiding and supporting the deuteragonist Ellie; in TLoU 2, Joel is killed off early on to get him out of the way and justify the switch to Ellie as the protag. It's practically a gender-swapped version of "fridging"[tvtropes.org].
- Uncharted was known for the charismatic and likeable Nathan Drake, but in the last game, he was replaced by female leads.
- Alan Wake was the protagonist of his own game, but in his sequel, he's mostly replaced by a black female SWAT officer.
- Star Wars games are mostly known for their male leads (Force Unleashed, Star Wars Jedi, etc.), but the most recent one, Outlaws, has a female lead.
- Subnautica had a male lead; Subnautica 2 has a female lead.
- Even Legend of Zelda isn't immune to this; almost every game features Link as the player stand-in, but for the first time in the series (discounting the non-canon Philips CDi games), Zelda's the lead in Echoes of Wisdom.
- Of course, there's Ghost of Tsushima, which has the amazing Jin Sakai, except Yotei's going with a woman, like almost everything else these days.

That's not an exhaustive list by any means, but it's sizeable enough that the tiresome and rather bigoted trend cannot be ignored or dismissed as "coincidence".

[ElviraDemonQueen]

Originally posted by N Harmonia:

That's not an exhaustive list by any means, but it's sizeable enough that the tiresome and rather bigoted trend cannot be ignored or dismissed as "coincidence".

waw first time ever a game where you can play Zelda for the first time now is hated for that hoopie woopie. this is some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ i even readed honestly i find it weird why jin is replaced by a other character but comparing Subnautica that now ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

subnautica 1 whas a guy that crash land on a alien planet and survived in subnautica 2 you are not that guy becouse there no reason for that guy to be in there he lefted the planet. plus your on a other planet kind of too working for a corperation and not as a crash landed person so who give a ♥♥♥♥ that subnautica 2 is female for that reason.

i do agree some characters are replaced by females in weird way i even dont like starwars for that reason of how stupit they bring in the characters and this comes from a female mind you.

but i dont think a female character is a bad thing for Ghost 2 maybe the game will explain what happend to Jin i dont know but if its written good inof then it makes more sence but just buy saying there a female in this game this is bad is just stupit that like saying in 40k females dont exsist in 40k while sisters of battle eldar and other race kind got females in them.

only part i do hate is when people demand stuff and change the Lore of a game for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that.

[Tevaul]

I don't care if there are female characters, but I really dislike the main character being replaced for the sake of having a female character. If this ends up true, out of principle I am going to pass on yotei. Man a sequel with Jin would have been incredible, oh well I get to keep $60-$70.

[Tevaul]

Originally posted by BazookaHDZ:

It’s too early to know but I think without a doubt the gameplay will be amazing and the graphics will too but it’s likely with an activist playing the main character the story will be flooded with DEI and probably be bad I hope this isn’t the case but it’s most likely how it will be

Yeah I have already assumed I won't be getting this game, any whiff of DEI and I just bail. I figure eventually all the people pushing this stuff will get fired because the larger companies will just all go bankrupt. We will be left with a ton of indie developers kicking off a golden age of gaming.

[Sol-Hunter]

I felt the sequel was so clearly set up for a sequel. I hope Yotei is good, but I am still disappointed Jin's story is going to go unresolved. The first game ended with him accepting being the ghost and the shogun going to begin hunting him down. That isn't a finished story. Hopefully they do finish that story in another game, because I don't want to just be told what happened to Jin, I want to experience it.

[Nyarlathotep]

I was honestly hoping for more Jin in the sequel. Hell, after seeing the lady wielding two swords I thought Miyamoto Musashi would be a great protagonist. But, oh, well, at least the first one is great.

[Sistermatic™]

How do you people reconcile a dead Jin with this hypothesis?

[N Harmonia]

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

How do you people reconcile a dead Jin with this hypothesis?

Because this sequel wasn't always going to be in 1603; it was originally a proper Tsushima 2 featuring Jin before it was reworked to being 300+ years later with a new female protag.

If the time skip's removed, as it originally wasn't going to be a thing, then we could have kept Jin. He wouldn't have been long dead, if the initial concept was retained.

[Sistermatic™]

Originally posted by N Harmonia:

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

How do you people reconcile a dead Jin with this hypothesis?

Because this sequel wasn't always going to be in 1603; it was originally a proper Tsushima 2 featuring Jin before it was reworked to being 300+ years later with a new female protag.

If the time skip's removed, as it originally wasn't going to be a thing, then we could have kept Jin. He wouldn't have been long dead, if the initial concept was retained.

I'l ignore this is all speculative rumour by a Youtuber in any case - but you're saying the concept of 2 was decided before they decided on the finish of 1?

[_C@nG@C@_]

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

Originally posted by N Harmonia:

Because this sequel wasn't always going to be in 1603; it was originally a proper Tsushima 2 featuring Jin before it was reworked to being 300+ years later with a new female protag.

If the time skip's removed, as it originally wasn't going to be a thing, then we could have kept Jin. He wouldn't have been long dead, if the initial concept was retained.

I'l ignore this is all speculative rumour by a Youtuber in any case - but you're saying the concept of 2 was decided before they decided on the finish of 1?

Just watch the video dude... stop cherry-picking narratives to suit your bubble, the only person you are damaging here is yourself.. Endymion is a very trusted YT source.

" - I'l ignore this is all speculative rumour by a Youtuber in any case" you talk/behave like a flat-earther. when someone present you with some science you just block your ears and go: '- La-la-la' like a whiny baby. it is honestly ridiculous... hahahahahha!

[_C@nG@C@_]

Originally posted by Sol-Hunter:

I felt the sequel was so clearly set up for a sequel. I hope Yotei is good, but I am still disappointed Jin's story is going to go unresolved. The first game ended with him accepting being the ghost and the shogun going to begin hunting him down. That isn't a finished story. Hopefully they do finish that story in another game, because I don't want to just be told what happened to Jin, I want to experience it.

That's what I've been saying in other posts. Jin Sakai's story was NOT over. it was just beginning! the first game was like - the birth of the Ghost's legend. the sequel would be him going full force against the mongols and maybe even the Shogun. it would be also a more political battle between the Ghost's influence vs the Shogun's, the samurai and the mongols ( other Khans ).

It would have been an amazing sequel! so much potential....

[Sistermatic™]

Originally posted by _C@nG@C@_:

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

I'l ignore this is all speculative rumour by a Youtuber in any case - but you're saying the concept of 2 was decided before they decided on the finish of 1?

Just watch the video dude... stop cherry-picking narratives to suit your bubble, the only person you are damaging here is yourself.. Endymion is a very trusted YT source.

" - I'l ignore this is all speculative rumour by a Youtuber in any case" you talk/behave like a flat-earther. when someone present you with some science you just block your ears and go: '- La-la-la' like a whiny baby. it is honestly ridiculous... hahahahahha!

His video doesn't answer my question and you clearly don't know either.

So clearly the claims are BS.

[_C@nG@C@_]

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

His video doesn't answer my question and you clearly don't know either.

So clearly the claims are BS.

I know more than you at least. because I actually watched it. : )

Also you saying that Endymion's journalist investigations are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shows that you will only accept the 'answers' that suit your bubble and are not willing to break your preconceived mold.

[Sistermatic™]

Originally posted by _C@nG@C@_:

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

His video doesn't answer my question and you clearly don't know either.

So clearly the claims are BS.

I know more than you at least. because I actually watched it. : )

Also you saying that Endymion's journalist investigations are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shows that you will only accept the 'answers' that suit your bubble and are not willing to break your preconceived mold.

'journalist investigations' = "I make ♥♥♥♥ up, and fools make me rich'

[BazookaHDZ]

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

Originally posted by _C@nG@C@_:

I know more than you at least. because I actually watched it. : )

Also you saying that Endymion's journalist investigations are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shows that you will only accept the 'answers' that suit your bubble and are not willing to break your preconceived mold.

'journalist investigations' = "I make ♥♥♥♥ up, and fools make me rich'

its clear what direction sony are heading in they are taking all that DEI money the game will be infected with it nonetheless the gameplay and graphics will be amazing but the story will be awful