SSD Required.

[Wildchants]

It's getting crazy that people are trying to act like you can't play a game without an ssd, and tricking people into thinking this to be true when it isn't at all. Does a SSD have quicker loading times, yes. To say that its required though to play your game is completely false. This games specifications claim that it is required to only play this game with an SSD to be able to play the game with good performance. It's an actual lie.

[CrazyLamer]

Originally posted by Wildchants:

It's getting crazy that people are trying to act like you can't play a game without an ssd, and tricking people into thinking this to be true when it isn't at all. Does a SSD have quicker loading times, yes. To say that its required though to play your game is completely false. This games specifications claim that it is required to only play this game with an SSD. It's an actual lie.

Official specs:
Minimum requirements: SSD recommended
Recommended specs: SSD Required.

It all comes down if you have a potato pc and can't play on higher settings or if you have a decent rig to play with higher settings.
Avatar on ubisoft however Requires an SSD for the game to function as it should.

It would be quite easy to do a simple research on this like going to the store page and read what the specs says.

[METAL]

the difference is big. once i changed to an m2 drive, games have loaded so much faster than ever before. so having and ssd does make a huge difference and obviously what hardware you have.

[Wildchants]

Originally posted by CrazyLamer:

Originally posted by Wildchants:

It's getting crazy that people are trying to act like you can't play a game without an ssd, and tricking people into thinking this to be true when it isn't at all. Does a SSD have quicker loading times, yes. To say that its required though to play your game is completely false. This games specifications claim that it is required to only play this game with an SSD. It's an actual lie.

Official specs:
Minimum requirements: SSD recommended
Recommended specs: SSD Required.

It all comes down if you have a potato pc and can't play on higher settings or if you have a decent rig to play with higher settings.
Avatar on ubisoft however Requires an SSD for the game to function as it should.

I have a great pc that has a SSD and a HDD, and I have games on both with no issues at all, and of course you'll find a game that needs a SSD to play so that you can act like its not a lie at all, and it has merit when it doesnt.

[Wildchants]

Originally posted by METAL:

the difference is big. once i changed to an m2 drive, games have loaded so much faster than ever before. so having and ssd does make a huge difference and obviously what hardware you have.

the loading times are a lot better like i said already in my original post, but im saying to say its required in your specifications to have good performance isnt exactly the truth is it?

[CrazyLamer]

Originally posted by Wildchants:

Originally posted by CrazyLamer:

Official specs:
Minimum requirements: SSD recommended
Recommended specs: SSD Required.

It all comes down if you have a potato pc and can't play on higher settings or if you have a decent rig to play with higher settings.
Avatar on ubisoft however Requires an SSD for the game to function as it should.

I have a great pc that has a SSD and a HDD, and I have games on both with no issues at all, and of course you'll find a game that needs a SSD to play so that you can act like its not a lie at all, and it has merit when it doesnt.

I never acted like it's a lie or not. I gave an example of an game that ACTUALLY requires an SSD.
I also told you with a simple quick research by going to the store page the official specs says: SSD Recommended for minimum specs and Required for recommended specs.
I never once said it's required overall.
If your reading comprehension problem didn't see that i agreed with you, i'll just tell you to read what i wrote one more time.

And not having SSD's in games where it says recommended usually have reduced performance, stuttering and other similar issues in areas where it won't happen having said SSD compare to not having it. Which isn't always the case but "could" happen.

[Wildchants]

Originally posted by CrazyLamer:

Originally posted by Wildchants:

I have a great pc that has a SSD and a HDD, and I have games on both with no issues at all, and of course you'll find a game that needs a SSD to play so that you can act like its not a lie at all, and it has merit when it doesnt.

I never acted like it's a lie or not. I gave an example of an game that ACTUALLY requires an SSD.
I also told you with a simple quick research by going to the store page the official specs says: SSD Recommended for minimum specs and Required for recommended specs.
I never once said it's required overall.
If your reading comprehension problem didn't see that i agreed with you, i'll just tell you to read what i wrote one more time.

And not having SSD's in games where it says recommended usually have reduced performance, stuttering and other similar issues in areas where it won't happen having said SSD compare to not having it. Which isn't always the case but "could" happen.

What I was trying to say is that you can still have good performance playing this game without an SSD, even though from the specifications is claims you cannot.

[CrazyLamer]

Originally posted by Wildchants:

Originally posted by CrazyLamer:

I never acted like it's a lie or not. I gave an example of an game that ACTUALLY requires an SSD.
I also told you with a simple quick research by going to the store page the official specs says: SSD Recommended for minimum specs and Required for recommended specs.
I never once said it's required overall.
If your reading comprehension problem didn't see that i agreed with you, i'll just tell you to read what i wrote one more time.

And not having SSD's in games where it says recommended usually have reduced performance, stuttering and other similar issues in areas where it won't happen having said SSD compare to not having it. Which isn't always the case but "could" happen.

What I was trying to say is that you can still have good performance playing this game without an SSD, even though from the specifications is claims you cannot.

And i said that is possible, but it's not a guarantee that you will.
There have been previous games that said "ssd recommended" but have played just fine on a regular HDD, it all comes down which type of HDD it is though, if it's a really old model with lower RPM then it will probably not work as it should but if it is one of the newer ones that had higher RPM then it would probably not be a problem.
Some games also have mods like Avatar so the game atleast does work on HDD even though it has it's drawbacks.

We'll just have to wait and see how it performs in 3 more days so there's really no need for speculations on this, just try it and see how it turns out.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by Wildchants:

Originally posted by METAL:

the difference is big. once i changed to an m2 drive, games have loaded so much faster than ever before. so having and ssd does make a huge difference and obviously what hardware you have.

the loading times are a lot better like i said already in my original post, but im saying to say its required in your specifications to have good performance isnt exactly the truth is it?

Time's are changing HDDs have been on a down spiral for about 13-15years now it's now almost 3 gens of tech behind Look at Cyberpunk when the HDD litterly wasn't fast enough and caused problems with things in the environment not loading fast enough they had to make a whole HDD mode to load fewer things.
So HDDs are straight up just not fast enough for modern game's and there's less and less game's being made for HDDs in mind since SDDs have been dropping in prices to be very affordable.
Just wait for next gen console when nobody will be making any game with HDDs in mind.
Sure it may not be a requirement but it's a requirement for optimal gameplay in almost every modern game fr years now.

So it's straight up just get with the time's and upgrade you don't have to replace the HDD just use it for mass storage and get a cheap SSD for like $25-$50 for a 1TB and use that for game's a SSD is straight up the biggest and cheapest upgrade you can buy for a PC.

[nya[dc]]

Certain games are virtually impossible to play without an SSD, Star Citizen comes to mind.

[Wildchants]

Originally posted by CrazyLamer:

Originally posted by Wildchants:

What I was trying to say is that you can still have good performance playing this game without an SSD, even though from the specifications is claims you cannot.

And i said that is possible, but it's not a guarantee that you will.
There have been previous games that said "ssd recommended" but have played just fine on a regular HDD, it all comes down which type of HDD it is though, if it's a really old model with lower RPM then it will probably not work as it should but if it is one of the newer ones that had higher RPM then it would probably not be a problem.
Some games also have mods like Avatar so the game atleast does work on HDD even though it has it's drawbacks.

We'll just have to wait and see how it performs in 3 more days so there's really no need for speculations on this, just try it and see how it turns out.

Im fine when the specifications say its just recommended. I've just noticed lately that a lot of games are pushing this idea that you can't have good performance without a SSD, like this one says. It shows that with a HDD, you'll be stuck with low performance, but we recommend a SSD for good performance. I've yet to have low performace on any game with having it on my HDD, other then loading times being longer.

[Wildchants]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by Wildchants:

the loading times are a lot better like i said already in my original post, but im saying to say its required in your specifications to have good performance isnt exactly the truth is it?

Time's are changing HDDs have been on a down spiral for about 13-15years now it's now almost 3 gens of tech behind Look at Cyberpunk when the HDD litterly wasn't fast enough and caused problems with things in the environment not loading fast enough they had to make a whole HDD mode to load fewer things.
So HDDs are straight up just not fast enough for modern game's and there's less and less game's being made for HDDs in mind since SDDs have been dropping in prices to be very affordable.
Just wait for next gen console when nobody will be making any game with HDDs in mind.
Sure it may not be a requirement but it's a requirement for optimal gameplay in almost every modern game fr years now.

I understand that SSDs are the future. I have one as well with my HDD. I just don't like seeing that a game is required to have one or you wont have good performance. I have good performance on all of the games I have on mine, including cyberpunk, even with a bunch of mods. SSDs are faster at loading times for sure. I just don't like when games are pushing people into thinking you can't play this game without a SSD and have good performance.

[a passerby]

This is such a stupid thing to nitpick. When someone says they need a plane to get to Spain from Thailand, are you going to go "THAT IS COMPLETELY FALSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE THERE"?

And yes, loading times IS performance. The difference in speed is night and day. Considering SSDs are dirt cheap these days, I have no idea why anyone would insist on using a HDD when an SSD cuts down loading times by 50-90%

[Wildchants]

Originally posted by a passerby:

This is such a stupid thing to nitpick. When someone says they need a plane to get to Spain from Thailand, are you going to go "THAT IS COMPLETELY FALSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE THERE"?

And yes, loading times IS performance. The difference in speed is night and day. Considering SSDs are dirt cheap these days, I have no idea why anyone would insist on using a HDD when an SSD cuts down loading times by 50-90%

I never said a SSD didn't improve performance with loading times. What I said is that it claims to only have good performance using a SSD, which just isn't true.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by a passerby:

This is such a stupid thing to nitpick. When someone says they need a plane to get to Spain from Thailand, are you going to go "THAT IS COMPLETELY FALSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE THERE"?

And yes, loading times IS performance. The difference in speed is night and day. Considering SSDs are dirt cheap these days, I have no idea why anyone would insist on using a HDD when an SSD cuts down loading times by 50-90%

A SSD also does more than just decrease load screen time especially in open world games also try using a HDD in Star Citizen and tell me how it plays lol

[Tomatokek]

I feel like this is like a grocery putting expiration dates that are actually a few weeks ahead of the actual expiration to stop idiots from getting sick by mishandling the food. Its just being safe and over exaggerating the requirements to avoid people with terrible systems having issues. Everyone should have an SSD at this point anyways. They have been standard for like 6 years.