PSN 73 supported countries VS Xbox live 43 supported countries

[Vazowski_]

Xbox is supported in fewer countries than Playstation. And no one is attacking them

- Sony is selling games everywhere
Gamers: don't sell games where you don't support PSN

- Sony limits sales to supported regions
Gamers: What are you blocking the game as it wants to buy it

[xYoshi]

except i can play xbox games on PC in my country with a microsoft account but i cant even buy the ps games here anymore

[BEEP!]

You don't need a Xbox live account to play PC game's on PC it's a Microsoft account which is kinda available everywhere this isn't a gotcha moment like you think it is my guy.
I havn't had a Xbox live account since the original Xbox and not once in my 25+ years of PC gameing did I ever need Xbox live.
But SONY should have region blocked these two game's even before the preorders happened that's where most of the hate is coming from that they sold in region they weren't supposed to because of the PSN requirement.

[RobotMan #08]

Might need to recount those numbers again.

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/regions

Console games:

Albania - Available
Algeria - Available
Argentina - Available
Australia - Available
Austria - Available
Bahrain - Available
Belgium - Available
Bolivia - Available
Bosnia & Herzegovina - Available
Brazil - Available
Bulgaria - Available
Canada - Available
Chile - Available
China - Not available
Colombia - Available
Costa Rica - Available
Croatia - Available
Cyprus - Available
Czechia - Available
Denmark - Available
Ecuador - Available
Egypt - Available
El Salvador - Available
Estonia - Available
Finland - Available
France - Available
Georgia - Available
Germany - Available
Greece - Available
Guatemala - Available
Honduras - Available
Hong Kong SAR - Available
Hungary - Available
Iceland - Available
India - Available
Indonesia - Available
Ireland - Available
Israel - Available
Italy - Available
Japan - Available***
Korea - Available
Kuwait - Available
Latvia - Available
Libya - Available
Liechtenstein - Available
Lithuania - Available
Luxembourg - Available
Malaysia - Available
Malta - Available
Mexico - Available
Moldova - Available
Montenegro - Available
Morocco - Available
Netherlands - Available
New Zealand - Available
Nicaragua - Available
North Macedonia - Available
Norway - Available
Oman - Available
Panama - Available
Paraguay - Available
Peru - Available
Philippines - Available
Poland - Available
Portugal - Available
Qatar - Available
Romania - Available
Russia - Available
Saudi Arabia - Available
Serbia - Available
Singapore - Available
Slovakia - Available
Slovenia - Available
South Africa - Available
Spain - Available
Sweden - Available
Switzerland - Available
Taiwan - Available
Thailand - Available
Tunisia - Available
Turkey - Available
Ukraine - Available
United Arab Emirates - Available
United Kingdom - Available
United States - Available
Uruguay - Available
Vietnam - Available

I'd put the PC Games available too, but pretty much the same.

[supersonic2233]

That is true that Xbox is also unavailable in a lot of countries, but the PC branch of Xbox is, its why they are not "attacked", if sony had its own PC branch i wouldnt really care about the region lock for consoles as i play on PC

[BEEP!]

Автор сообщения: supersonic2233

That is true that Xbox is also unavailable in a lot of countries, but the PC branch of Xbox is, its why they are not "attacked", if sony had its own PC branch i wouldnt really care about the region lock for consoles as i play on PC

Because pc game's don't require a Xbox account it's a Microsoft account which is available basically everywhere on the globe.

[GuerillaTactix]

As someone from a first world nation, can someone explain to me

1) Is it Microsoft accounts that are blocked or access to XBL? From my understanding all you need is a Microsoft account and technically you already have a Microsoft account? I've had my Microsoft account since the OG Xbox and its still used on my version of Windows today.

2) Does Microsoft deny users from 3rd world countries the ability to purchase and use their single player games if they don't have access to XBL?

[supersonic2233]

Автор сообщения: Professor P4nda

As someone from a first world nation, can someone explain to me

1) Is it Microsoft accounts that are blocked or access to XBL? From my understanding all you need is a Microsoft account and technically you already have a Microsoft account? I've had my Microsoft account since the OG Xbox and its still used on my version of Windows today.

2) Does Microsoft deny users from 3rd world countries the ability to purchase and use their single player games if they don't have access to XBL?

Xbox uses microsoft accounts, if the console aint available in your region you can still use the account for PC games

[RoldErrant]

"To play Halo: The Master Chief Collection online on a PC through Steam:

You need an Xbox network account. If you don’t have one, you can create one for free."

[Soüp]

Because Microsoft has never restricted account creation or game sales based on country like Sony does, even if many countries aren't technically supported. It's not complicated.

[Xengre]

Автор сообщения: 1080Puktra

You don't need a Xbox live account to play PC game's on PC it's a Microsoft account which is kinda available everywhere this isn't a gotcha moment like you think it is my guy.
I havn't had a Xbox live account since the original Xbox and not once in my 25+ years of PC gameing did I ever need Xbox live.
But SONY should have region blocked these two game's even before the preorders happened that's where most of the hate is coming from that they sold in region they weren't supposed to because of the PSN requirement.

Yeah, this is a false take.

You're claiming not to need an Xbox Live account on PC for gaming while Sony requires a PSN account.

First, Sony doesn't "require" a PSN account for the single player portion and only does for the multiplayer. Sony even stated the PSN account is no longer required for Helldivers 2, at all: https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929 The reason at least some of them were removed has to do with Steam. In fact, Steam has actually been called out by the developer for being the one who has been making some of the independent restrictions regarding Helldriver 2 despite the screenshot of the email (you also showed in the other thread which had this updated note by the owner of the screenshot, too) that contrary to the misleading email Steam is making some of these decisions entirely on their own https://www.eurogamer.net/helldivers-2-was-delisted-by-sony-not-steam-valve-rep-says It hasn't been clarified if the block vs the other removals were decided by Sony or Valve despite Valve's statements being proven to not be entirely (if at all) accurate about this matter.

Second, Microsoft actually had a quite famously hated storefront which was super buggy and had required registration for a lot of PC versions of ported games in the past but it finally died (also taking away some of those games entirely while leaving others partially broken, crippled, or needing workarounds if they existed) after years of extreme backlash over it. This service was required for all versions of the game on PC in many cases, including those sold on Steam (though there were some exceptions at times, too). In fact, that situation was far worse than the one here because it had attached code and created many issues while the PSN situation is mostly legality.

I'm not surprised by the misinformation considering your posts in the other thread though.

Автор сообщения: Soüp

Because Microsoft has never restricted account creation or game sales based on country like Sony does, even if many countries aren't technically supported. It's not complicated.

Nope. GFWL (Games For Windows Lives, thankfully discontinued finally as it is among one of the most hated major storefronts/account requirements to have been seen), Xbox Live, Game Pass have all had region restrictions.

Further, from Xbox website:

If you move to a new country or region, and your account region and physical location do not match, you may get a “region block” error or have a problem making a purchase. You must have a valid billing address and payment option that match your locale.

Note Some products are not available in all markets. If your billing address matches your location and you still receive a blocked region message, the product you're trying to purchase may not be available.

https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/subscriptions-billing/buy-games-apps/region-block#:~:text=If%20you%20move%20to%20a,a%20problem%20making%20a%20purchase.

Anddddd.... I'm done babysitting all the ridiculous misinformation. Between just a handful of threads the sheer amount of misinformation, much of it from the same group of users, is absurd and often appears to be intentional.

[RoldErrant]

from wiki
"Users from other countries are not officially supported, although it is possible for them to access Xbox network if they provide an address located in a country where Xbox network is officially available."
which is exactly what was happening with PSN until ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ happened.

[BEEP!]

Автор сообщения: Xengre

Автор сообщения: 1080Puktra

You don't need a Xbox live account to play PC game's on PC it's a Microsoft account which is kinda available everywhere this isn't a gotcha moment like you think it is my guy.
I havn't had a Xbox live account since the original Xbox and not once in my 25+ years of PC gameing did I ever need Xbox live.
But SONY should have region blocked these two game's even before the preorders happened that's where most of the hate is coming from that they sold in region they weren't supposed to because of the PSN requirement.

Yeah, this is a false take.

You're claiming not to need an Xbox Live account on PC for gaming while Sony requires a PSN account.

First, Sony doesn't "require" a PSN account for the single player portion and only does for the multiplayer. Sony even stated the PSN account is no longer required for Helldivers 2, at all: https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929 The reason at least some of them were removed has to do with Steam. In fact, Steam has actually been called out by the developer for being the one who has been making some of the independent restrictions regarding Helldriver 2 despite the screenshot of the email (you also showed in the other thread which had this updated note by the owner of the screenshot, too) that contrary to the misleading email Steam is making some of these decisions entirely on their own https://www.eurogamer.net/helldivers-2-was-delisted-by-sony-not-steam-valve-rep-says It hasn't been clarified if the block vs the other removals were decided by Sony or Valve despite Valve's statements being proven to not be entirely (if at all) accurate about this matter.

Second, Microsoft actually had a quite famously hated storefront which was super buggy and had required registration for a lot of PC versions of ported games in the past but it finally died (also taking away some of those games entirely while leaving others partially broken, crippled, or needing workarounds if they existed) after years of extreme backlash over it. This service was required for all versions of the game on PC in many cases, including those sold on Steam (though there were some exceptions at times, too). In fact, that situation was far worse than the one here because it had attached code and created many issues while the PSN situation is mostly legality.

I'm not surprised by the misinformation considering your posts in the other thread though.

Автор сообщения: Soüp

Because Microsoft has never restricted account creation or game sales based on country like Sony does, even if many countries aren't technically supported. It's not complicated.

Nope. GFWL (Games For Windows Lives, thankfully discontinued finally as it is among one of the most hated major storefronts/account requirements to have been seen), Xbox Live, Game Pass have all had region restrictions.

Further, from Xbox website:

If you move to a new country or region, and your account region and physical location do not match, you may get a “region block” error or have a problem making a purchase. You must have a valid billing address and payment option that match your locale.

Note Some products are not available in all markets. If your billing address matches your location and you still receive a blocked region message, the product you're trying to purchase may not be available.

https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/subscriptions-billing/buy-games-apps/region-block#:~:text=If%20you%20move%20to%20a,a%20problem%20making%20a%20purchase.

Anddddd.... I'm done babysitting all the ridiculous misinformation. Between just a handful of threads the sheer amount of misinformation, much of it from the same group of users, is absurd and often appears to be intentional.

Agree to Disagree

[Wymn]

Автор сообщения: supersonic2233

Автор сообщения: Professor P4nda

As someone from a first world nation, can someone explain to me

1) Is it Microsoft accounts that are blocked or access to XBL? From my understanding all you need is a Microsoft account and technically you already have a Microsoft account? I've had my Microsoft account since the OG Xbox and its still used on my version of Windows today.

2) Does Microsoft deny users from 3rd world countries the ability to purchase and use their single player games if they don't have access to XBL?

Xbox uses microsoft accounts, if the console aint available in your region you can still use the account for PC games

This is 100% false yet even when you can use a Microsoft account in PC for mail and other stuff, you can't use it for Xbox PC Game Pass and other perks without VPN, even after setting your PC in US or any other supported region.

So yeah, all those territories that doesn't have Xbox support, can only use PC Game Pass with VPN. Both Xbox and Playstation doesn't ban your account created on a supported region within unsupported contries/territories/region unless you do something REALLY bad like hacking, abusing some bug/cheat or being toxic af.

On consoles works without vpn cuz you only need to log in, you can actually log in and use all those stuff but in PC you can't really play or use cloud without VPN.

[RobotMan #08]

Автор сообщения: 1080Puktra

Автор сообщения: Xengre

Yeah, this is a false take.

You're claiming not to need an Xbox Live account on PC for gaming while Sony requires a PSN account.

First, Sony doesn't "require" a PSN account for the single player portion and only does for the multiplayer. Sony even stated the PSN account is no longer required for Helldivers 2, at all: https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929 The reason at least some of them were removed has to do with Steam. In fact, Steam has actually been called out by the developer for being the one who has been making some of the independent restrictions regarding Helldriver 2 despite the screenshot of the email (you also showed in the other thread which had this updated note by the owner of the screenshot, too) that contrary to the misleading email Steam is making some of these decisions entirely on their own https://www.eurogamer.net/helldivers-2-was-delisted-by-sony-not-steam-valve-rep-says It hasn't been clarified if the block vs the other removals were decided by Sony or Valve despite Valve's statements being proven to not be entirely (if at all) accurate about this matter.

Second, Microsoft actually had a quite famously hated storefront which was super buggy and had required registration for a lot of PC versions of ported games in the past but it finally died (also taking away some of those games entirely while leaving others partially broken, crippled, or needing workarounds if they existed) after years of extreme backlash over it. This service was required for all versions of the game on PC in many cases, including those sold on Steam (though there were some exceptions at times, too). In fact, that situation was far worse than the one here because it had attached code and created many issues while the PSN situation is mostly legality.

I'm not surprised by the misinformation considering your posts in the other thread though.



Nope. GFWL (Games For Windows Lives, thankfully discontinued finally as it is among one of the most hated major storefronts/account requirements to have been seen), Xbox Live, Game Pass have all had region restrictions.

Further, from Xbox website:

https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/subscriptions-billing/buy-games-apps/region-block#:~:text=If%20you%20move%20to%20a,a%20problem%20making%20a%20purchase.

Anddddd.... I'm done babysitting all the ridiculous misinformation. Between just a handful of threads the sheer amount of misinformation, much of it from the same group of users, is absurd and often appears to be intentional.

Agree to Disagree

Some are just here to literally combat and try to argue rather than actually give correct information regarding this game release, it's features, and others that are comparable. Don't tell Mom, the babysitter's dead.