PSN account is not required for the main game.

[Nyarlathotep]

You can create one, if you'd like for the multiplayer, but it's absolutely unnecessary. Days Gone as well as God of War didn't require it, plus Nixxes itself confirmed that it's only required for multiplayer, which, again, is not the main game.

[illage2]

Yeah just how it wasn't required for Helldivers 2 and look what happened. DTC (Don't trust corps)

[Nyarlathotep]

Origineel geplaatst door illage2:

Yeah just how it wasn't required for Helldivers 2 and look what happened. DTC (Don't trust corps)

Ghost of Tsushima isn't a multiplayer game

[Marduc]

I'll wait for the launch. Or more precisely, a few months after the launch.

The same warnings that exists in Helldivers 2, exists in this game.

I'm dying to play these game, but not that much.

And just because this was not a problem in pryor games, this will not be a problem now. Ghost of Tsushima have a multyplayer component. And this woul not be a first time that a single player game would be considere always online.

[Nyarlathotep]

Origineel geplaatst door Marduc:

I'll wait for the launch. Or more precisely, a few months after the launch.

The same warnings that exists in Helldivers 2, exists in this game.

I'm dying to play these game, but not that much.

And just because this was not a problem in pryor games, this will not be a problem now. Ghost of Tsushima have a multyplayer component. And this woul not be a first time that a single player game would be considere always online.

Fair, although they would literally have to change the game itself to include "always online" element. The games that require internet on PS4 and 5 require you to pay a monthly subscription to play. That would mean they would have to add something like that to this game, which would be... Kinda stupid, honestly. Then again, you did say you'll wait to check first and not just attacked it for something that most likely won't have the place here, so at least that's a progress for some.

[Marduc]

It's perfectly valid for someone to decide to not purchase a product of a company because of other bad product. Even if the actual product is a 10 and the defect of the pryor product will not be present in the actual. You punish someone for bad behavior.

[Nyarlathotep]

Origineel geplaatst door Marduc:

It's perfectly valid for someone to decide to not purchase a product of a company because of other bad product. Even if the actual product is a 10 and the defect of the pryor product will not be present in the actual. You punish someone for bad behavior.

Except Sony is a publisher, not a company that made the game. Sure, you are punishing the publisher in some way, but you actually punish the developers of the game, which haven't had anything to do with the other titles even more.

[Marduc]

I understand your position, but similar term of services apply. Unfortunately it's impossible to punish one without afecting the other.

And I'm trying to walk between the positions. Because if this game doesn't have the same problem. I believe that I'm going to inform to the publisher that these behavior is ok and the other it's not ok by purchasing the game.

[Nyarlathotep]

Origineel geplaatst door Marduc:

I understand your position, but similar term of services apply. Unfortunately it's impossible to punish one without afecting the other.

And I'm trying to walk between the positions. Because if this game doesn't have the same problem. I believe that I'm going to inform to the publisher that these behavior is ok and the other it's not ok by purchasing the game.

Understandable. I do hope all this mess resolves itself eventually, preferably in the most consumer friendly way possible.

[Shifty]

Origineel geplaatst door Nyarlathotep:

Origineel geplaatst door Marduc:

It's perfectly valid for someone to decide to not purchase a product of a company because of other bad product. Even if the actual product is a 10 and the defect of the pryor product will not be present in the actual. You punish someone for bad behavior.

Except Sony is a publisher, not a company that made the game. Sure, you are punishing the publisher in some way, but you actually punish the developers of the game, which haven't had anything to do with the other titles even more.

April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach
Sony is a publisher with a long repeat history of not giving a crap about your private info. And from personal experience they don't care when you get hacked and do the bare min to get your account back for you.

[Nyarlathotep]

Origineel geplaatst door Shifty:

Origineel geplaatst door Nyarlathotep:

Except Sony is a publisher, not a company that made the game. Sure, you are punishing the publisher in some way, but you actually punish the developers of the game, which haven't had anything to do with the other titles even more.

April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach
Sony is a publisher with a long repeat history of not giving a crap about your private info. And from personal experience they don't care when you get hacked and do the bare min to get your account back for you.

I've seen that one plenty of times already, even on the threads that don't necessitate it... Like this very one, considering I talk about the account being most likely not being necessary. Post it, where it's needed instead of dropping it everywhere.

[Sheen]

Origineel geplaatst door Nyarlathotep:

You can create one, if you'd like for the multiplayer, but it's absolutely unnecessary. Days Gone as well as God of War didn't require it, plus Nixxes itself confirmed that it's only required for multiplayer, which, again, is not the main game.

I had been waiting years for this game to come out on Steam, and I was going to buy it on release. Now with the issue of creating a PSN account it's totally out of the question. I understand your point of view, and maybe you're right, but I don't trust Sony honestly.
I feel sorry for Nixxes, because they do a great job, but if you go to bed with the devil every day, you'll probably wake up one morning stinking of brimstone. That's the way it is.

On Steam there are thousands of good games to buy. It will be fine to ignore this one.

[Midnight_Q]

Origineel geplaatst door Marduc:

It's perfectly valid for someone to decide to not purchase a product of a company because of other bad product. Even if the actual product is a 10 and the defect of the pryor product will not be present in the actual. You punish someone for bad behavior.

It is definitely reasonable and I have been eyeballing this to see what type of implementation the PSN account requirement would be. If it's just multi that's locked that's not a problem for me. And since the important part is single player, that can be preserved with mods if they try something stupid later.

[RAZORDESU (1)]

Origineel geplaatst door Nixxes_Community:

A PSN account is required for online multiplayer and to use PlayStation overlay. It is not required to play the singleplayer game.

[🎌The Last Spirit🎌]

That is good pfew dont want my nothing to be secure in sonys well protected data that is hacked all other week

[M.Spengler]

Origineel geplaatst door Shifty:

Origineel geplaatst door Nyarlathotep:

Except Sony is a publisher, not a company that made the game. Sure, you are punishing the publisher in some way, but you actually punish the developers of the game, which haven't had anything to do with the other titles even more.

April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach
Sony is a publisher with a long repeat history of not giving a crap about your private info. And from personal experience they don't care when you get hacked and do the bare min to get your account back for you.

I have a PSN account - All data they could steal is my public email address, my date of birth and my profile picture. That´s it.
My private email address is never used for game accounts. Both email addresses require a token and a password for access also does my Steam account.
Neverless a databreach is always ["bad" word].
But you folks rage too much with torches and pitchforks in your hands over an optional PSN account requirement ONLY for Legends (Crossplay multiplayer) and playstation Trophies.
Thats nuts in my opinion.