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Do you get it now then?
I will put it to you another way. 35 MPH is 35MPH. You can dumb down a ferari to top out at 35MPH and that doesn't mean it fires the same horsepower as your toyota corolla.
In your 1st response, you attributed it all to better framerate. Framerate has zero to do with quality of textures or visual experience. It will affect stutter, smoothness of scenes changing or how quickly you can see fast movements or changes.
On the GTX -everything was turned up, but certain setting had to be turned off to avoid the game crashing. And with these items turned on-its a very notable difference in the quality of what you see. Lighting or textures.
This is what the better card allowed me to enable without crashing:
HDR
Upscale DLSS (Set to quality)
Anti Aliasing (DLAA)
Frame Generation (DLSS)
Texture Filtering (upped from 2x to 16x)
Ambient Occlution (SSAO Quality)
Water Caustics (On)
Rest of Settings UNCHANGED.
All of those had to be turned off to avoid crashing with the 1080 GTX.
And for the record, Ray Tracing did not exist in the GTX line-but Nvidia allowed the cards to utilize Ray Tracing via driver, but at a major expense cost to the performance of the card.
GTX = Giga Texel Shader eXtreme
RTX = Ray Tracing X
Ray Tracing-the thing you says does not matter to rendering-is a MAJOR component to rendering (www.google.com). Framerate however has zero impact to rendered quality.
GTX 1080 is Tier 1B only to the 1080 Ti of that generation. 4070 S is Tier 3d.
To your original point, "going from 1 GPU to another doesn't affect quality?" Thats dead wrong. But you are right, I can hit 35 MPH and have the same poor graphics in the RTX4070 S if I match the settings with just still better lighting and framerate.
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4070-S-Super-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/4154vs3603
I suggest you reread what I've said. Sloooooowly.
You arent schooling me, thanks for the long winded write up though. Take a second and consider you may have TOTALLY misunderstood what I said.
If you meant the new card lets you enable settings not possible before, and /or turn up quality settings and have a good frame rate, well the confusion is on you for your poor choice of wording. For the final time, you implied you get better graphics SIMPLY BY THE PHYSICAL ACT OF CHANGING GPUS. You said the rendering quality was better. "rendering quality". I mean ya....
Edit LOLOL he linked Userbenchmarkl!! Someone wanna tell him?
This game doesn't support Ray Tracing. But it most definitely uses DLSS-which uses AI to upscale rendered images. While GTX can get to Ray Tracing via drivers-it cannot get to DLSS which is exclusive to RTX cards. Again, a specific example of how going from 1 gpu to another can improve rendering.
Which Mr Potato Head again asserted that neither Ray Tracing or DLSS impact rendering capability. As such-you can get the same quality render from a GTX in this game as you could an RTX. Which is complete BS. My decision to upgrade or not, mainly been on the % gain in frame rate and overall performance. And up through RTX3___ series, the gains were mostly marginal from a performance standpoint and didn't warrant a spend.
Main point in posting this was more of the aha that its far more than performance if you are GTX anything and getting into the RTX line. The RTX4 gen definitely warrants it on both ends of performance, but also wtf it can do.
THAT'S JUST IT!!! I did no such thing! I REALLY don't know how to make my self any clearer.
YOU are the one that swapped GPU's and then came here all " wow the rendering quality is better. Like wait a second, the "redendering quality" is better just because you changed gpu's?
I'm done with you lol, jesus dude.
I mean literally its written right here. If you want to say it doesn't exist within the RTX line, I'd say you are right. But literally it's in the title, GTX 1080 to RTX 4070 S. And specifically in this case, going from that GPU to this GPU will change the rendering quality. You are trying awfully hard to come in and prove how much you know...and really you have just proven to be an ass.
The GTX 1080 cannot hit the same rendering. And its not limited by its ability to framerate, its limited by its access to feature sets. In this case DLSS.
You keep pointing out the most brain dead common sense stuff like you're teaching me something.
K, here I will try my best to spell it out for you like you were 5. I'm starting to think you might actually be 5;
If you had a 1080 and you change to a 4070, and CHANGE NO QUALITY SETTINGS IN GAME, the " rendering quality" will be no different.
You implied otherwise. You do realize that right?
Unless you are incorrectly referring to frame rate as " rendering quality". Is that it?? I don't even anymore.
Nowhere in my original post did it say no settings were changed. For the most part both cards were run at the high end, and I noted specifically what settings were changed. You came in with a huge ASSumption. Which we know what happens when people ASSume.
I've clarified, I've explained. I've accepted what responsibility I can for what at best is ambiguity.
Your point-"going from 1 GPU to another doesn't improve quality of render". It dismisses everything that exists between a GTX class and an RTX class-which are 2 huge features that affect rendering ability. Yes, the bump improves framerate as well as allowing for more quality, only texture quality wasn't CHANGED.
What is different is getting into the feature set of DLSS largely, along with HDR. Along with increased framerate that allow boosts to texture filtering thanks to better framerate (which framerate does zero to improve textures)-THE GAME IS NOTICEABLY DIFFERENT.
If you have 200+ Hours on a GTX card running this game at max allowable, and then jumped to a 4K RTX of some sort and want to comment how its different-by all means share what you can.
But you are nothing but a nerd trying to show you know more than others when you largely made a big ass assumption, and then can't walk away from it. Have at it dude. I know what I see with my own eyes. AND key point was if you are on a GTX card and debate an upgrade to the 4th gen RTX-IT IS DAMN WELL WORTH IT.