Ubuntu 12.4 or 12.10?

[Heeter]

Hey all,

Quick question: Should I go back to 12.4? Other than a couple of unity lens errors on 12.10 that I can't get rid or for the life of me, Steam has been really stable on 12.10 for the last couple of months. Was reading somewhere that Steam should be on 12.4, is that correct? I am willing to move to 12.4 if the need arises, but again, it is running super stable as far as I can see.

I most probably answered my own question here, but I would to hear more.

Thanks

Heeter

[matt]

If it's stable you will gain nothing by moving to 12.04 from 12.10. Two months till 13.04 which is amazingly stable already (alpha), so imo just wait for upgrade :)

[Tweak]

I haven't had any issues with 12.10 and wouldn't bother moving unless there was a problem.

[BHXSpecter]

Only upgrade if you truly trust you computer. I decided to just upgrade to 12.10 on my desktop and it froze while installing and now I have no clue how to make it do the upgrade because it goes to a blank screen after I pick the Kernel version I want to load.

[Shark]

12.04 wins, especially since 3 days ago when they released the .2 update for it. 12.04 gets 5 years of security updates and support, 12.10 will no longer be supported in april.

[Shark]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย BHXSpecter:

Only upgrade if you truly trust you computer. I decided to just upgrade to 12.10 on my desktop and it froze while installing and now I have no clue how to make it do the upgrade because it goes to a blank screen after I pick the Kernel version I want to load.

You can probably fix the system if pressing ctrl+alt+f3 does something when you're stuck on the black screen. If you can I could help you out with reinstalling videocard drivers, if you have an amd card anyway.

[matt]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wouter:

12.04 wins, especially since 3 days ago when they released the .2 update for it. 12.04 gets 5 years of security updates and support, 12.10 will no longer be supported in april.

April when 13.04 is out which everyone is going to upgrade to anyway (and they should, kernel 3.8, full gtk3 and many other improvements to stability and speed).

[[Linux] unbridledExüberance]

I would recommend 12.04 for a few reasons:
* It's LTS so it will be supported for longer
* It doesn't come with the controversial Amazon adds
* There are no real significant differences between it and 12.10

You should install the Linux 3.5 kernel, however, which I don't think comes with 12.04 (it used 3.2 when I installed it, but that may have changed now with the .2 update)

[Shark]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย mr.exuberant:

I would recommend 12.04 for a few reasons:
* It's LTS so it will be supported for longer
* It doesn't come with the controversial Amazon adds
* There are no real significant differences between it and 12.10

You should install the Linux 3.5 kernel, however, which I don't think comes with 12.04 (it used 3.2 when I installed it, but that may have changed now with the .2 update)

3.5 is on the 12.04.2 iso, together with an x update which allows you to use the new drivers by amd and nvidia.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gutigen o) Linux:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wouter:

12.04 wins, especially since 3 days ago when they released the .2 update for it. 12.04 gets 5 years of security updates and support, 12.10 will no longer be supported in april.

April when 13.04 is out which everyone is going to upgrade to anyway (and they should, kernel 3.8, full gtk3 and many other improvements to stability and speed).

Not yet for me, AMD gives no support for kernels higher than 3.5 yet.

[matt]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย mr.exuberant:

I would recommend 12.04 for a few reasons:
* It's LTS so it will be supported for longer
* It doesn't come with the controversial Amazon adds
* There are no real significant differences between it and 12.10

You should install the Linux 3.5 kernel, however, which I don't think comes with 12.04 (it used 3.2 when I installed it, but that may have changed now with the .2 update)

*LTS is for workstations and servers, not for gamers :) Gamers want constant improvements to performance which can be found only in latest versions etc, especially now when linux gaming is growing so fast.
*Amazon Lens can be disabled with one click in System > Privacy or by uninstalling

sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping

*True, that's why there is no point with rolling back to older version, better wait for 13.04

12.04 has 3.2 kernel, 12.10 has 3.5.

[sounds like a wooosh]

Moving back is a bad idea.

Oh! – Just in the case that some programs got improvements in between - otherwise it should be fine. - And also only if you would like to keep your home-files… If you start fresh and clean with a new installation all should be fine (but then you have some work to configure everything just again as it should ;) - well, probably …)

[Shark]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gutigen o) Linux:

12.04 has 3.2 kernel, 12.10 has 3.5.

I quote from the release notes of 12.04.2 "By default, the 12.04.2 point release will ship with a newer 3.5.0-23.35 Ubuntu kernel from Quantal, and a matching X.org stack."
source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop

[matt]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wouter:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย gutigen o) Linux:

12.04 has 3.2 kernel, 12.10 has 3.5.

I quote from the release notes of 12.04.2 "By default, the 12.04.2 point release will ship with a newer 3.5.0-23.35 Ubuntu kernel from Quantal, and a matching X.org stack."
source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop

Oh, nice :)

[Shark]

idd, not much reason to run 12.10 now, it's more buggy anyway.

[Oerthling]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wouter:

12.04 wins, especially since 3 days ago when they released the .2 update for it. 12.04 gets 5 years of security updates and support, 12.10 will no longer be supported in april.

That is NOT correct. While LTS releases are supported for 5 years, the regular releases get 18 months (3 Ubuntu upgrade cycles - always gets you to next LTS at least) of support/updates.

If everything works fine for you on 12.10 it makes no sense to change anything.
And we'll have to see how LTS vs interim releases works out for Steam on Linux.
I expect most players to upgrade every 6 months. Especially as the proprietary drivers also update in time for the 6-month cycle.

12.10 works fine. I have Steam running on it since the second round of closed beta invitations.

[matt]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Wouter:

idd, not much reason to run 12.10 now, it's more buggy anyway.

I like latest and greatest packages and 12.10 is first Gnome Remix spinoff (I love Gnome Shell), works great so far :)