Steam for Linux

Steam for Linux

GuRu Asaki Apr 4, 2023 @ 11:17pm
Windows Vs. Linux?
This Was A Valuation & My Own Experience
With Linux Mint That I Was Apart Of In 2021,
& 2021 Was Not All That Far Away From Today

"To The New Users Hoping Linux Will Be
A Better Alternative To Windows Today
This Is What I Have To Share With You"

Read Below & Decide For Yourself If
Linux Is Still Right For You, Before
You Decide To Jump Over To It...

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First Off: Yes Linux Is Way Better Online
Then The Crazy Beat Up Screwy Windows,
However, Is This Really Enough To Avoid
Our Problematic Windows Concerns Today??

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NOW THE FUN PART:

I Would Not Give Up 30 Years Of My Life
To Transfer From Windows 7 / 10 For Linux Today...

Linux Is Currently Last I Checked In 2021 Still An Unstable Mess...
-- Desktop Is Broken At It's Core
-- Driver Store Is Broken At It's Core
-- Motherboards / GPU's Are Broken At Their Core

When I Tested Linux In 2020 / 2021,
I Tested It In Hopes Of A New & Interestingly
Different Experience From My Usual Windows...

I Even Went As Far As Treating It Differently...
And 1 Of The Things I Did, Was Setup My
Desktop Differently, Like Have Windows
Task Bar On The Bottom, Where As Linux
Taskbar On The Top, To Keep The Designs
Very, Very Different From Each Other...

I Also Loved How My Browser Felt More For Me,
& Less For The Company As I Used The Browser...

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The Main Concern I Had Was??

-- You Can't Save Your Desktop Layouts
-- Most Driver Store Features Don't Function Right
-- Motherboard / GPU Drivers Are Nowhere Near Windows
-- Gaming Is As Far Back As Doom / Quake Days
-- The Monitor Support Is 1 Monitor Only
-- The Graphix Are HD Supported, But Not UHD Supported
-- The Visuals Of Linux Is Aweful Looking

The Whole Experience On Linux Just Feels
Like We Are Going Back 30 Years Of Our Life
To Try Something New & Different

But In The Whole Experience,
Nothing About It Feels Stable,
Nor Does Anything Seem Worth
Going Linux Versus Windows
Throughout The Entire Experience...
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Originally posted by Hampfdans:
hahaha again the problem sits on front of the machine not inside i see :D great community in here by the way, thanks guys its always a pleasure reading here hahahaha
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Originally posted by Marlock:
post reported
this is a bona-fide wintroll systematically spreading baseless FUD about linux for some ulterior reason

check his posting history and the pattern becomes clear as day

user reported with the same text

I suggest everyone do the same if they can see the same pattern
Is the thing in the quotes the original text from Hampfdans before dude edited it?
Marlock Apr 5, 2023 @ 11:40am 
the quote box contains my own text for Valve explaining my reasons to report this thread and the OP user

i've had enough of his disingenuous posts

he systematically spreads FUD about linux, it's not just in this thread, and a quick look at his post history makes this pretty easy to spot

this is not an honest opinion from a normal user, it's a hit piece filled with blatant baseless lies mixed with a couple real issues just so he can have a degree of plausible denial
Last edited by Marlock; Apr 5, 2023 @ 11:42am
Marlock Apr 5, 2023 @ 12:51pm 
You Can't Save Your Desktop Layouts
FUD

On Linux Mint, as in all distros, the layout persists between sessions (including the cited taskbar at the top), unless you're clumsy enough to confuse a liveboot pendrive with the installed OS, despite the ridiculously noob-friendly install guide, warnings, welcome screens, etc
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

On several distros you can even use multiple desktop templates

It's Mac and Windows that have the more limited customization options, by a long shot

Most Driver Store Features Don't Function Right
Linux Mint's "Driver Manager" GUI is only needed if you have to use closed source drivers for things like Nvidia GPUs and Atheros/Broadcom WiFi cards

Almost everything else works in an instantaneous (really!) plug&play style thanks to builtin support directly in the linux kernel, no driver needed at all

a fresh install of linux mint 21 at my home PC recognizes my wifi multifunctional printer on first boot without a single click... can win10 do that? nope... it can't... i tried, and it needs me to dig into several control panel layers just to find the rightoption to ask it to add the printer, in a trial and error crucible

Motherboard / GPU Drivers Are Nowhere Near Windows
half true, half FUD, no data on his specific hardware, no info on what specific aspects he thinks are poorly supported

if you have a wifi chip built into the MoBo then you can have a real problem with linux support... some mobos don't have all sensors exposed correctly yet...

...but that's pretty much it for real issues nowadays

most bios updates can be done without any OS, from a pendrive

everything else is automatically and instantly recognized and working, with very few exceptions (that are diminishing month after month)

there is even linux support for extra superfluous things like ARGB lighting, if you look it up... I have RGB fans from 3 different brands, RGB leds on an ASUS MoBo, CoolerMaster casing and G-Skill RAM and all of them just worked in sync when I installed OpenRGB (actually much better than having one 3rd-party app from each, etc)

Gaming Is As Far Back As Doom / Quake Days
FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, OMFG! FUUUUUUD!
People can play Cyberpunk 2077 on linux, FFS! We can even play Crysis! :diceyjester:

Valve's Steam Deck is Linux and it runs almost anything you throw at it... that includes literally thousands of modern games, not retro stuff from 30 years ago

The Monitor Support Is 1 Monitor Only
FUD distorting what I said in another thread

Linux supports multi-monitor for desktop uses very well, and SOME games have varied issues with multi-monitor handling

The Graphix Are HD Supported, But Not UHD Supported
utter nonsense... 4K and even 8K support is just fine

what he may be trying to refer to is HiDPI support, which is bad on Steam on linux, not all of Linux... and there is fine 2x HiDPI support nearly everywhere, the real issue is just fractional UI scaling for screen sizes where 2x doesn't fit very well

ps: Linux Mint 21 does have fractional scaling support and Steam does have a known workaround to force it to honor UI scaling

The Visuals Of Linux Is Aweful Looking
which visual? there is like an infinite number of visuals to choose from, unlike Mac and Windows...

...and Win 8 10 and 11 are objectively terrible from an UI ergonomics PoV, plus even if you ignore that and look only at aesthetics, and even if you just LOVE the looks of Mac or Windows, you have nearly-identical clone UI visuals available on Linux, so it just can't be worse, can it?
ps: Linux Mint Cinnamon ships with 2 main theme aspects (one flat one more like win7) in both dark and light versions, with several main color accents and has full support for community themes... and that's just one DE among several
Last edited by Marlock; Apr 5, 2023 @ 6:37pm
KalGimpa Apr 5, 2023 @ 4:41pm 
i put my 70+ year old dad on linux mint

he has had zero troubles using it as his daily

i have two computers using linux and a pi

i do not code, i am not an engineer. i do not have any issues that i cannot find an answer, and easy fix, for

no different than when i had issues with windows

what linux needs is a decent pr campaign for the more popular distros
Aoi Blue Apr 5, 2023 @ 5:54pm 
I've never had any issues with drivers not shipping with my Linux distro.

WTF is this guy talking about?
Aoi Blue Apr 5, 2023 @ 5:56pm 
Originally posted by KalCuey:
i put my 70+ year old dad on linux mint

he has had zero troubles using it as his daily

i have two computers using linux and a pi

i do not code, i am not an engineer. i do not have any issues that i cannot find an answer, and easy fix, for

no different than when i had issues with windows

what linux needs is a decent pr campaign for the more popular distros

Since Windows started finally acting up on my wife's laptop she's started asking me to switch it to Linux. I've been too lazy lately, though. Her previous two computers used Linux and she honestly preferred it, but Windows wasn't too different.

Now every update, Microsoft is dumping new stuff onto her computer without her permission.
Marlock Apr 5, 2023 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by Aoi Blue:
Since Windows started finally acting up on my wife's laptop she's started asking me to switch it to Linux. I've been too lazy lately, though.
This is a war crime confession... it's like mass-murdering unicorns... i'm speechless

Laziness is not a valid excuse, no sir!

Get your liveboot/setup pendrive out of the drawer, dust it off, plug it in, boot it up and deliver redemption for a fellow penguin soul in need, ASAP!

:signix::winter2019coolyul::diceyjester:
Last edited by Marlock; Apr 5, 2023 @ 6:26pm
dilatedjux Apr 5, 2023 @ 7:31pm 
Skill issue.
Skühll Apr 6, 2023 @ 2:19am 
Don't feed the troll
GuRu Asaki Apr 6, 2023 @ 2:45am 
I can run games in UHD with better looking graphics AND a higher framerate on Linux due to tools like VKBasalt.

Sooo this allows UHD Support??

But I bet you don't have any control over Vulkan, like I do with Windows,
because I got a Sepcial SDK Package before it was removed, oO

Does this mean that Linux Supports 8K Resolution, then??
Also when I mean Graphix?? I mean for both AMD / NVidea,
not one, but both in the Industry...

The Driver Store:

Yes the place where you go for all your Drivers,
your packs & such that you download, I forget what it's called,
but things like Extra Panels or task bars, Realtek Audio Drivers,
things to enhance your Desktops with... A lot of these Drivers
were broken to a point where it could screw something up &
you had to find work arounds to have them removed if they
didn't work... I've tried several attempts to get RealTek Audio
to play any form of Sound at all, & never had any luck...

The Desktop??

Everytime my Computer Shut Down, my Desktop
Would not be the way I left it when I was on it last,
everything would be reset every single time.

Graphix, things like Low Latency, Hair Tessalation,
Ray Tracing, many, many of these GPU Features
were not even remotely available at all on Linux
for at least AMD Users...

Linux Games last I checked were just Doom & Quake,
if anything else? Your just using Proton for Emulating
what you already have on Windows that you didn't
even Need Proton for at all...

What a funny way to get everyone on Linux for?
So we can stick you with 1 more stupid Platform
to run your Games from...

Now instead of using STEAM to play Origin Games,
you now need to use Proton to use STEAM which
then uses Origin... Why else would they push people
to use Linux so badly instead of actually making
Games straight on Linux for STEAM??

All These Stupid Platforms are a Joke, & People
keep foooling themselves along the way... What
Next? How can we get people to use 15 different
Launchers to play 1 Game without them knowing it??

I Wouldn't even doub't they found a way to push
people into using Proton to get into the Mac Universe,
where they would use Proton on Mac to use STEAM
that is on Windows to play an Origin Game... It's like
how many different Launchers do we really need??

Since when was 1 not enough... ??

Booting Up STEAM & The Game Instantly Works,
No Proton, No Origin, No UPlay, Just 1 Launcher,
Heck why do we even need any Launchers at all,
whatever happened to just Booting a Game up??

As for Multi-Monitor Support:

I never found a work around for this, because none of
my methods actually got 2 to 3 + Monitors working,
I always had my monitors Disabled in Linux, because
Linux didn't have the Drivers to run them...

And for those claiming that this works??

I've already seen Reports of People in
STEAM Linux claiming that it doesn't work,
so Unless you know something we all don't
i'm pretty sure Multi-Monitor doesn't work...
-- J5 USB No Driver Support
-- HDMI Leaves Other Monitors Off
-- DVI Leaves Other Monitors Off
-- J5 Hybrid HDMI No Driver Support

The Linux Visuals Are Not all that great,
I Had to look for a long time to find a
good Wallpaper & Desktop Themes
that suited my experience...

Because they don't use normal Colors
like Red, Green, Blue, & such like
Windows does...

No you get Colors like: Chrome, Steel,
Orange, Maroon... But you never get any
Colors that fit exactly the ones you want,
& unlike Windows not all Taskbars are
actually Transparant...

Some of your Objects which are kinda like
how they work on WinVista with those Widgets
would flash on screen, disappear, sometimes
you would have to Un-Install them, re-install them,
if you Shut Down your Computer, the Objects
would completely be re-set, & you'd have to
Un-Install & Re-Install every time... The Desktop
Extra Taskbars worked the same exact way...

The whole Linux Experience was fine running
a web browser at it's core, & it was super smooth,
but I was super annoyed by the idea I could
not even setup my Desktop lone enough before
I even got to enjoy anything else Linux had to offer...
Sanctuary Apr 6, 2023 @ 6:57am 
Godzilla had a stroke and died trying to read this. Your writing barelly makes any sense, it is literal word salad. If it reflects your thinking process, then I have no idea how you are trying to use linux. Major skill issue.

Do you know how I played elden ring one year ago on linux, on the day one of its release? I clicked on install button. And then I clicked on play button.

Git gud
Last edited by Sanctuary; Apr 6, 2023 @ 6:59am
Haruspex Apr 6, 2023 @ 9:25am 
If this isn't a troll this is pure mental illness.
90 Apr 6, 2023 @ 1:21pm 
meds
Originally posted by notbread:
Godzilla had a stroke and died trying to read this. Your writing barelly makes any sense, it is literal word salad. If it reflects your thinking process, then I have no idea how you are trying to use linux. Major skill issue.

Do you know how I played elden ring one year ago on linux, on the day one of its release? I clicked on install button. And then I clicked on play button.

Git gud
How are you supposed to git gud?
lmao-box isn't available for Linux :-(
Last edited by Der tüddelige Fußgänger; Apr 6, 2023 @ 1:25pm
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Date Posted: Apr 4, 2023 @ 11:17pm
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