GTA5 Online on SteamOS

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

is GTA5 playable in SteamOS? if not will it be one day? I heard a guy from AMD said ones that GTA5 will be playable in Vulkan.

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

that actually gives me hope they'll do it. I want to know, is it vulkan the one that has to be updated to support the game or the game that has to be updated to support vulkan? I think its vulkan the one that has to be updated. But, I am not sure.

[Thugpocalypse]

Give up.

[Thugpocalypse]

It'll never happen

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

引用自 Maleko：

引用自 0V3RKILL：

that actually gives me hope they'll do it.

Rockstar doesn't even care that much to support Windows let alone Linux. They have several games that are console exclusives.

引用自 0V3RKILL：

I want to know, is it vulkan the one that has to be updated to support the game or the game that has to be updated to support vulkan? I think its vulkan the one that has to be updated. But, I am not sure.

Vulkan is a graphics API. It all depends on what the game's engine supports. GTA V only supports DirectX, which is Microsoft's exclusive API.

So to run GTA V on Linux you need Wine or virtualization. I know that Wine devs are working support for Vulkan Windows programs but that's irrelevant since GTAV does not use Vulkan.

but arent there directx games that run already in steamos? old ones too.

[toidi]

To add to maleko info as well.
Old direct x games generally work better through wine as they will be using direct x 9. Wine has much better support for dx9 as it does for 10/11 .

[halifax]

引用自 Maleko：

Okay, let me break it down for you:

SteamOS is just another Linux distribution.

DirectX is a Microsoft exclusive graphics API.

You cannot run DirectX directly (no pun intended) on Linux.

Any Linux games were either developed for Linux or ported to Linux at some point.

Rockstar has no plans or interest in porting GTA V to Linux.

There is also leveraging the new game streaming technologies, like specifically Steam In-Home Streaming - due to the high quality Linux client.

IMO, a better option on some levels and a worse option on some levels.

A better option because it makes it like Linux has very good support for almost all Windows games. In a virtual sense of course, since ALT-TABing or exiting the games, you only see your local Linux desktop.

The downside is you are still supporting Windows by having a Windows gaming PC up to stream games from. It's a compromise, with cats and dogs living together in the same house.

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

引用自 halifax：

引用自 Maleko：

Okay, let me break it down for you:

SteamOS is just another Linux distribution.

DirectX is a Microsoft exclusive graphics API.

You cannot run DirectX directly (no pun intended) on Linux.

Any Linux games were either developed for Linux or ported to Linux at some point.

Rockstar has no plans or interest in porting GTA V to Linux.

There is also leveraging the new game streaming technologies, like specifically Steam In-Home Streaming - due to the high quality Linux client.

IMO, a better option on some levels and a worse option on some levels.

A better option because it makes it like Linux has very good support for almost all Windows games. In a virtual sense of course, since ALT-TABing or exiting the games, you only see your local Linux desktop.

The downside is you are still supporting Windows by having a Windows gaming PC up to stream games from. It's a compromise, with cats and dogs living together in the same house.

I think steamos is still far from where it should be. But, I dont think they created steamos to fail or to go half way. I'm sure they are smart enough to find a way to run all the games they sale. Not only that but run all the features from steam.

PC's have very few exclusives and games in general and to make a box with steamos that runs even less games than a pc does makes no sense if thats all they are planning. Feels to me like what we are looking at is not the big picture. Feels like a lot is coming and we have no idea.

[Blu]

It isn't up to valve what games are supported or not. Unless it is a valve game.

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

a company as big as valve doesnt have to demand anything. they create something the rest follows. look at doom4 already has vulkan support. Or, look at how the gaming world is right now. Everyone wants to be steam with their own download manager. Oh please Valve says jump everyone else asks how high. Ok Im out, enough talking about this vulkan. Conversation is even steering in a different direction.

[TinMan1325]

引用自 0V3RKILL：

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Youuuu... clearly don't know anything about SteamOS. Only about 1/3 of the games on Steam will work on SteamOS. It might actually only be about 1/4 of the games, I can't remember. Either way, it's a lot less than half

[Zyro]

引用自 TinMan1325：

Youuuu... clearly don't know anything about SteamOS. Only about 1/3 of the games on Steam will work on SteamOS. It might actually only be about 1/4 of the games, I can't remember. Either way, it's a lot less than half

It's very close to 25%.

[TinMan1325]

引用自 Zyro：

It's very close to 25%.

Yeah, I kind of figured I was being a little too generous saying 1/3

[XÆЯO_Vince]

I think that GTA 5 in Wine is a fake for now. However, GTA V is possible to play on Linux with VMware Workstation Player 12.x with a Windows 10 x64 guest with the proprietary Nvidia driver on Linux and latest VMware Tools installed. GTA 5 is a DirectX 10 game.

You need powerful system (both CPU and GPU) to make it somewhat playable in VM. I tried this several months ago

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=514631387
It's also possible with cloud gaming on much weaker hardware:

http://blog.liquidsky.tv/2016/07/06/getting-linux-client-work/

[XÆЯO_Vince]

引用自 TinMan1325：

引用自 Zyro：

It's very close to 25%.

Yeah, I kind of figured I was being a little too generous saying 1/3

Yeah, I just did the calculation and it's basically exactly at 25% now. Still, like 80% or something of these games are Indie and not AAA and AAA games are what drives a platform it seems.

[halifax]

引用自 XÆЯO：

引用自 TinMan1325：

Yeah, I kind of figured I was being a little too generous saying 1/3

Yeah, I just did the calculation and it's basically exactly at 25% now. Still, like 80% or something of these games are Indie and not AAA and AAA games are what drives a platform it seems.

Yep. I like the lower budget/lower requirements (but still high quality) games a lot too, but I go back and forth. Sometimes I also get in the mood for AAA gaming and getting the most out of my gaming hardware (via optimized games+drivers). In this area, Linux still has a mountain to climb.

I inevitably resort to IHS streaming, then. It's by far the best effective solution, IMO. I love it when Wine works, but it still has its own mountain to climb, and VM Windows inside of Linux is extremely useful for some other things, but for AAA gaming - it's mostly a masochistic experience.

IHS'ing to your favorite Linux DE, otoh. IMO, an upgrade to all other gaming solutions. At least, until Linux gets up its mountain and is as well supported by game and hardware devs as Windows is today.

On an anecdotal note, I recently upgraded to a GTX 1070 on my i5 main gaming PC, and it does IHS stream AAA Windows games to Linux pretty well. On a wired network with "unlimited bandwidth" on the client and hardware NVFBC encoding on the server, it might as well be HDMI connected to my Linux box. Not to mention the card being able to run maxed GFX settings and still having plenty of video card left to encode with no extra lag.