Steam for Linux

Steam for Linux

Steam not on the App Store of Ubuntu 21.04, the officially supported distro
Ok so, out of pure curiosity, I installed Ubuntu 21.04 a few minutes ago and I was left literally left speechless when I realized that Steam (or Lutris for that matter) are NOT in the App Store of Ubuntu. I thought someone was having a REALLY bad joke on me. Ubuntu is the officialy supported distro and the installer of Steam is not even on the App Store. GREAT work for new users. XD They have to actually run a command to even start gaming (whether on Steam or not).

Valve please either make a Snap package for Steam or start officially supporting Arch distros which are the best for gaming and have more Linux users gaming on Steam anyway (Manjaro + Arch, not to mention Garuda which is really starting to pick up).
Last edited by Reverse Module; Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:13pm
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Cat on Linux Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:14pm 
what do you mean? they deleted steam package from Ubuntu repos? and Lutris as well?
Reverse Module Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
what do you mean? they deleted steam package from Ubuntu repos? and Lutris as well?
No the default app store just looks in Snappy to find packages. I had to use temrinal to install Steam and Lutris. I was actually amazed because up to that point any obscure program I searched existed, so I was astounded. XD
Last edited by Reverse Module; Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:16pm
Cat on Linux Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by QushAes:
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
what do you mean? they deleted steam package from Ubuntu repos? and Lutris as well?
No the default app store just looks in Snappy to find packages. I had to use temrinal to install Steam and Lutris. I was actually amazed because up to that point any obscure program I searched existed, so I was astounded. XD
Haven't used anything but terminal for decade. GUI apps always had "bad sight" for packages. Not only in Ubuntu. Get used to terminal, it's even faster to type first letters of the package and hit Tab 2 times (for auto completion - it will list all available packages for that name).
Last edited by Cat on Linux; Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:30pm
Reverse Module Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
Originally posted by QushAes:
No the default app store just looks in Snappy to find packages. I had to use temrinal to install Steam and Lutris. I was actually amazed because up to that point any obscure program I searched existed, so I was astounded. XD
Haven't used anything but terminal for decade. GUI apps always had "bad sight" for packages. Not only in Ubuntu. Get used to terminal, it's even faster to type first letters of the package and hit Tab 2 times (for auto completion - it will list all available packages for that name).

Oh no no,I've been using Linux for 3 years now, I know my way around the terminal. But for a new user the temirnal is REALLY scary, they would be absolutely frustrated by this. I'm just thinking how to make Linux more user friendly.
Cat on Linux Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by QushAes:
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
Haven't used anything but terminal for decade. GUI apps always had "bad sight" for packages. Not only in Ubuntu. Get used to terminal, it's even faster to type first letters of the package and hit Tab 2 times (for auto completion - it will list all available packages for that name).

Oh no no,I've been using Linux for 3 years now, I know my way around the terminal. But for a new user the temirnal is REALLY scary, they would be absolutely frustrated by this. I'm just thinking how to make Linux more user friendly.

best way is to encourage people to use terminal. there's no better way to manage your Linux distro. And let's be honest, we just use couple of lines to update/install/remove packages most of the time. It's not scary. I have no idea why so many people are afraid of terminal. And at the same time they don't mind using windows command line if needed.
Reverse Module Apr 22, 2021 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
Originally posted by QushAes:

Oh no no,I've been using Linux for 3 years now, I know my way around the terminal. But for a new user the temirnal is REALLY scary, they would be absolutely frustrated by this. I'm just thinking how to make Linux more user friendly.

best way is to encourage people to use terminal. there's no better way to manage your Linux distro. And let's be honest, we just use couple of lines to update/install/remove packages most of the time. It's not scary. I have no idea why so many people are afraid of terminal. And at the same time they don't mind using windows command line if needed.

I have converted a lot of people to Linux to know that once they see the terminal it's the end of the conversation for them. They stop cosnidering it a true OS and more of a sandbox to test things. It's a shame and it shouldn't be like that but it is unfortunately so I always want to find ways to make things easier for the casual user.
Cat on Linux Apr 22, 2021 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by QushAes:
I have converted a lot of people to Linux to know that once they see the terminal it's the end of the conversation for them. They stop cosnidering it a true OS and more of a sandbox to test things.
do we really need such people as Linux users? if they can't break free from windows housewife paradigm Linux will be same bad for them. At some point you will have to open terminal, there's no 100% replacement for it. Especially if you have to debug an issue (app fails to start, game has black screen etc)
Reverse Module Apr 22, 2021 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
Originally posted by QushAes:
I have converted a lot of people to Linux to know that once they see the terminal it's the end of the conversation for them. They stop cosnidering it a true OS and more of a sandbox to test things.
do we really need such people as Linux users? if they can't break free from windows housewife paradigm Linux will be same bad for them. At some point you will have to open terminal, there's no 100% replacement for it. Especially if you have to debug an issue (app fails to start, game has black screen etc)

I think we do need them and we also need a troubleshooting app just like in Windows (no matter how useless it actually is XD). More marketshare means better support and I just want the best for people anyway. These are the people that will help the OS grow and become better, along with the open-source contributors imo. :)
Cat on Linux Apr 22, 2021 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by QushAes:
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
do we really need such people as Linux users? if they can't break free from windows housewife paradigm Linux will be same bad for them. At some point you will have to open terminal, there's no 100% replacement for it. Especially if you have to debug an issue (app fails to start, game has black screen etc)

I think we do need them and we also need a troubleshooting app just like in Windows (no matter how useless it actually is XD). More marketshare means better support and I just want the best for people anyway. These are the people that will help the OS grow and become better, along with the open-source contributors imo. :)

good points, but if they're afraid of terminal they will run back to windows anyway. it is just a matter of time (couple of months? half a year maybe?). Once they can't solve an issue they will move away from Linux. We need to teach them how to use terminal if we want them to stay.
Microsoft app for fixing errors is legendary :) 0% success for me.
Beninan Apr 22, 2021 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
it's even faster to type first letters of the package and hit Tab 2 times (for auto completion - it will list all available packages for that name).

I've been using Linux since 2004... How have I never heard of this??? Holy cow that's helpful!
Last edited by Beninan; Apr 22, 2021 @ 2:21pm
Cat on Linux Apr 22, 2021 @ 2:25pm 
Originally posted by Beninan:
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
it's even faster to type first letters of the package and hit Tab 2 times (for auto completion - it will list all available packages for that name).

I've been using Linux since 2004... How have I never heard of this??? Holy cow that's helpful!
yeah :) terminal is very fun. same Tab is useful when you want to type file name. like cd into folder, type "wine" and first letter of exe file, bam, it autocompleted file name. I enjoy this lazy way of doing things.
Kiba Snowpaw Apr 22, 2021 @ 5:06pm 
i dont use the snap store at all i always use the terminal to install and remove apps its give you a better controll how to install steam

Confirm that the multiverse Ubuntu repository is enabled:
sudo add-apt-repository multiverse
sudo apt update
Install Steam package:
sudo apt install steam

also check out my grupe for more guides to Ubuntu
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/TheUbuntuGamer
Last edited by Kiba Snowpaw; Apr 22, 2021 @ 5:07pm
This is the problem with all-in-one GUI solutions offered today with Linux like Ubuntu, you don't learn anything by using it. That's why I love Arch Linux, it forces you to learn the fundamentals and the right way.
Kiba Snowpaw Apr 22, 2021 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Cat on Linux:
Originally posted by QushAes:

I think we do need them and we also need a troubleshooting app just like in Windows (no matter how useless it actually is XD). More marketshare means better support and I just want the best for people anyway. These are the people that will help the OS grow and become better, along with the open-source contributors imo. :)

good points, but if they're afraid of terminal they will run back to windows anyway. it is just a matter of time (couple of months? half a year maybe?). Once they can't solve an issue they will move away from Linux. We need to teach them how to use terminal if we want them to stay.
Microsoft app for fixing errors is legendary :) 0% success for me.

I can agree on this. I began using Ubuntu back when it was Version 14.xx, I think. Since it was many years ago, I am not 100% sure, but I have been on and off it ever since because it was too hard to use. I end up breaking Ubuntu more than I fix my problem, but I have to say ubuntu 20.10 has gotten so much easier to use with so many things supported today, like proton and wine. I have been using ubuntu 20.10 now nonstop for gaming for about 2-3 months, and I think I am beginning to get the hang of it. I'm still a complete noob, but I'm getting there.

Originally posted by class101 linux:
This is the problem with all-in-one GUI solutions offered today with Linux like Ubuntu, you don't learn anything by using it. That's why I love Arch Linux, it forces you to learn the fundamentals and the right way.

and that why i dont like Arch beside it been ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to play games on.
Last edited by Kiba Snowpaw; Apr 22, 2021 @ 6:18pm
Marlock Apr 23, 2021 @ 3:58am 
I'm in favour of choice... someone wants to drive linux via GUI? Let them...

What Canonical did with their app store is ludicrous and as I use Linux Mint, this becomes each day more noticeable... they seem to want an end-user-apps store only, not a place where you can manage packages...

on linux IMHO this is detrimental... instead they should have worked with upstream to ensure better package categorization, description, meaningful screenshots, linking to online man pages, smarter search and filters, etc... in a way that all packages are still in the store and newbies don't feel flooded at the same time oldtimers don't feel gutted via GUI

they also botched something in Ubuntu app store where some (apt) software don't install with the exact same results from their store as via "apt install"... whereas it should basically be a clever GUI frontend to apt, snapd, flatpak, etc


...and the above comments are all from before their latest push to exclusively provide snap apps in their store... leaving the (very valid) criticism to snap itself aside, this is a terrible idea because snap just isn't popular enough to have a great variety of apps in the store like they had with apt

that means Canonical will have to maintain snap packages themselves for all those things, which is the same (or worse) effort they wanted to skip with this move

I suspect this was done exactly because snap isn't gaining nearly as much traction as they wanted (almost any other distro including Ubuntu derivates like Linux Mint have instead chosen normal packaging combined with Flatpak or just normal packaging)... I believe they think forcing snaps to be the only GUI-listed apps on a popular distro might convince some devs to publish and maintain snap for their apps...

it's a bad and harmful move, but it's exactly the kind of miscalculated/misdirected effort I came to expect from them

ps:
This nonsense certainly does not apply to Linux Mint and afaik also doesn't apply to POP_OS!

Canonical is making it more likely every year that their most popular derivate distros like LM and POP_OS! will decide to bite the bullet and rebase over something else like plain Debian or such

It will be very sad and unfortunate for everyone if (more like when) these derivate distro devs decide it has to happen, but I know why and trust them (LM and POP devs) enough that it will be done in the least harmful way for their users, and only to avoid greater harm from staying put
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