Help Finding Linux Compatible Throttles for Air & Space Flight Sim Games

[temps]

I've heard most flight sticks work with Linux out of the box just like they would with Windows, but I'm worried about my throttle.

I'm planning to install Linux Mint soon, so I'd like to have some options for a throttle I could use as part of a HOTAS setup with my flight stick in case the throttle I have doesn't work with Linux. Hopefully something high quality.

Here is what I have currently:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N2PE8CZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And what I'd like is some links to HOTAS throttles on Amazon or whatever that are known to be compatible with Linux... so I have a backup plan in case my current throttle doesn't work when I install Linux Mint.

[ripper81]

Support for gaminghardware is a real problem on linux since there is no support from hardwarevendors.

That applies for gamingkeyboards - mice, racingwheels and other special inputdevices. Everything other than a X-Box Controller or the Steam Controller should be considered as a nonworking device on linux.

You should search for the device you are about to buy individually. So you may find out about the experience other users had on linux with that specific device.

[Marlock]

Originally posted by ripper81:

That applies for gamingkeyboards - mice, racingwheels and other special inputdevices. Everything other than a X-Box Controller or the Steam Controller should be considered as a nonworking device on linux.

this is just not true... there is A LOT more than those 2 working just fine under linux... you may be confusing non-working with not officially supported on linux by the manufacturers themselves...

...the difference being someone else can also add support to the kernel and libs, regardless of the manufacturer, and this may be enough for a flawless user experience


the advice about searching before buying is good though... saves a few headaches with the ones that are indeed nonworking

[Marlock]

to OP:
you can test your current hardware on linux mint now, by booting to it from a liveboot pendrive... why wait till after setting it up?

[temps]

Originally posted by ripper81:

Support for gaminghardware is a real problem on linux since there is no support from hardwarevendors.

Yes, I tried searching on Amazon already and it looks like all the ones I could find were only compatible with Windows and/or Mac. Granted, I didn't look at every individual one. But Amazon lets you filter the search by OS, and I noticed all of the supported OSes were Windows and/or Mac.

No official Linux support at all from any of the manufacturers, it would seem... (at least not that is listed as something I can search for on Amazon) as far as HOTAS throttles go anyway.

[ripper81]

Originally posted by temps:

Originally posted by ripper81:

Support for gaminghardware is a real problem on linux since there is no support from hardwarevendors.

Yes, I tried searching on Amazon already and it looks like all the ones I could find were only compatible with Windows and/or Mac. Granted, I didn't look at every individual one. But Amazon lets you filter the search by OS, and I noticed all of the supported OSes were Windows and/or Mac.

No Linux support at all from any of the manufacturers, it would seem... as far as HOTAS throttles go anyway.

You might find your desired hardware working out of the box but to be sure you should do a solid research before buying anything. You'll might also look for the flightsim you wan't to use with that Hardware to find further Information about it on linux.

[ripper81]

Originally posted by Marlock:

Originally posted by ripper81:

That applies for gamingkeyboards - mice, racingwheels and other special inputdevices. Everything other than a X-Box Controller or the Steam Controller should be considered as a nonworking device on linux.

this is just not true... there is A LOT more than those 2 working just fine under linux... you may be confusing non-working with not officially supported on linux by the manufacturers themselves...

...the difference being someone else can also add support to the kernel and libs, regardless of the manufacturer, and this may be enough for a flawless user experience


the advice about searching before buying is good though... saves a few headaches with the ones that are indeed nonworking

Well i guess i learned some things trying to find a gamingmouse that is working on linux. By saying working i mean i can use all the buttons, i can adjust the sensor dpi and pollrate. Having a working LED configuration is also nice right?

While my razermouse in combination with openrazer and polycromatic is good enough for my needs (and a much better and more complete experience than with devices from other vendors on linux) there are still functions missing compared to the same hardware used on windows. I learned my lessons in that regard over the past few years.

[Gens before fwens]

Originally posted by ripper81:

Originally posted by Marlock:

this is just not true... there is A LOT more than those 2 working just fine under linux... you may be confusing non-working with not officially supported on linux by the manufacturers themselves...

...the difference being someone else can also add support to the kernel and libs, regardless of the manufacturer, and this may be enough for a flawless user experience


the advice about searching before buying is good though... saves a few headaches with the ones that are indeed nonworking

Well i guess i learned some things trying to find a gamingmouse that is working on linux. By saying working i mean i can use all the buttons, i can adjust the sensor dpi and pollrate. Having a working LED configuration is also nice right?

While my razermouse in combination with openrazer and polycromatic is good enough for my needs (and a much better and more complete experience than with devices from other vendors on linux) there are still functions missing compared to the same hardware used on windows. I learned my lessons in that regard over the past few years.

Oh no... a Razer gaming mouse xD

Jokes aside I too have a Razer gaming mouse and it's a pain on Linux (openrazer, polychromatic, razer genie). Yeah you can "configure" some of the functionality on Linux. This means in reality though that you can only configure the LEDs and the polling rate for one single profile of the 5 you can have and configuring the buttons was impossible for me outside of games where the mapping works really well.
The good thing about it though is that you can actually configure it on Windows (besides the LED effects) and then just use it on Linux with all the profiles, button mappings, ...

This also is true for my RGB keyboard from HyperX where there is seemingly no support to do anything on Linux but thankfully I can just configure its functionality and RGB backlight profiles on Windows and then just use it on Linux.

But you always gotta search on the internet if this even works. I would say that currently you can classify all RGB, extra functionality of these input products as "only works on Windows/Mac" but the core functions most likely work on Linux too.

Also good luck in finding compatible hardware for your flight sim game, especially if the game runs via wine/proton which introduces a new layer of things that makes it even more difficult to get support - I know it's though :(

[ripper81]

Originally posted by Wifeline:

Originally posted by ripper81:

Well i guess i learned some things trying to find a gamingmouse that is working on linux. By saying working i mean i can use all the buttons, i can adjust the sensor dpi and pollrate. Having a working LED configuration is also nice right?

While my razermouse in combination with openrazer and polycromatic is good enough for my needs (and a much better and more complete experience than with devices from other vendors on linux) there are still functions missing compared to the same hardware used on windows. I learned my lessons in that regard over the past few years.

Oh no... a Razer gaming mouse xD

Jokes aside I too have a Razer gaming mouse and it's a pain on Linux (openrazer, polychromatic, razer genie). Yeah you can "configure" some of the functionality on Linux. This means in reality though that you can only configure the LEDs and the polling rate for one single profile of the 5 you can have and configuring the buttons was impossible for me outside of games where the mapping works really well.
The good thing about it though is that you can actually configure it on Windows (besides the LED effects) and then just use it on Linux with all the profiles, button mappings, ...

This also is true for my RGB keyboard from HyperX where there is seemingly no support to do anything on Linux but thankfully I can just configure its functionality and RGB backlight profiles on Windows and then just use it on Linux.

But you always gotta search on the internet if this even works. I would say that currently you can classify all RGB, extra functionality of these input products as "only works on Windows/Mac" but the core functions most likely work on Linux too.

Also good luck in finding compatible hardware for your flight sim game, especially if the game runs via wine/proton which introduces a new layer of things that makes it even more difficult to get support - I know it's though :(

Linux is my only OS so there is no way for me using Windows for anything.

[Sora]

I have a Logitech Extreme Pro X30 and it works on linux (Debian, Arch), and in proton. I've tried it in IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 and X Plane. I only have the joystick though.

I believe this is either a newer model of what I have. or exactly the same, I don't have the box anymore so I can't confirm exactly but the images look exactly like mine.
https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-3D-Pro-Joystick-Windows/dp/B00009OY9U

[dilatedjux]

I posted this in your other thread: Your flight-master will work. But, cinnamon doesn't have any joystick settings. You will have an easier time using KDE to calibrate it, otherwise, you're going to have to use qjoy or joy-utlis and enter in its numerical callibration data from the kernel. Also Mint is listed as "read-in detection" only for Thrustmaster devices, Arch and Gentoo have full mod support... But I put more detail into your other thread.
https://flight.fandom.com/wiki/Thrustmaster_T.16000M_FCS
https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=usb:044f-b10a

Otherwise, logitech joysticks have never let me down and work on any distro.

[Gens before fwens]

Originally posted by ripper81:

Originally posted by Wifeline:

Oh no... a Razer gaming mouse xD

Jokes aside I too have a Razer gaming mouse and it's a pain on Linux (openrazer, polychromatic, razer genie). Yeah you can "configure" some of the functionality on Linux. This means in reality though that you can only configure the LEDs and the polling rate for one single profile of the 5 you can have and configuring the buttons was impossible for me outside of games where the mapping works really well.
The good thing about it though is that you can actually configure it on Windows (besides the LED effects) and then just use it on Linux with all the profiles, button mappings, ...

This also is true for my RGB keyboard from HyperX where there is seemingly no support to do anything on Linux but thankfully I can just configure its functionality and RGB backlight profiles on Windows and then just use it on Linux.

But you always gotta search on the internet if this even works. I would say that currently you can classify all RGB, extra functionality of these input products as "only works on Windows/Mac" but the core functions most likely work on Linux too.

Also good luck in finding compatible hardware for your flight sim game, especially if the game runs via wine/proton which introduces a new layer of things that makes it even more difficult to get support - I know it's though :(

Linux is my only OS so there is no way for me using Windows for anything.

I mean getting a Windows 10 installation on a separate drive is not really magic and costs literally nothing besides a 15 min setup and install time... If this is too much for you sure, then you need to find another solution.

[The 3 Whites]

save 100$ on os. pay 1000$ extra for compatible hardware. ahh linux sweet memories

[temps]

Originally posted by DilatedJux:

I posted this in your other thread: Your flight-master will work. But, cinnamon doesn't have any joystick settings. You will have an easier time using KDE to calibrate it, otherwise, you're going to have to use qjoy or joy-utlis and enter in its numerical callibration data from the kernel. Also Mint is listed as "read-in detection" only for Thrustmaster devices, Arch and Gentoo have full mod support... But I put more detail into your other thread.
https://flight.fandom.com/wiki/Thrustmaster_T.16000M_FCS
https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=usb:044f-b10a

Otherwise, logitech joysticks have never let me down and work on any distro.

You seem to be talking about joysticks, but as I said I'm not really worried that much about the joystick because I'm aware joysticks usually work out of the box with Linux. What I was asking about in this thread was a throttle specifically.

I went to the flight fandom link you posted for the joystick and searched for throttles there, and found that some of the newer Thrustmaster throttles seem to work as well as the joysticks with Linux right out of the box:
https://flight.fandom.com/wiki/Thrustmaster_TCA_Quadrant_Airbus_Edition#Operating_system_compatibility

This isn't my particular throttle (the website did not have a page for my throttle), but I guess it gives me a plan B in case I have difficulty getting the throttle I have to work with Linux.

[dd2player]

Majority of decent hardware is now supported out of the box on the OS level e.g. Gunfighter III with some Kosmosima handles.

BUT YOU WON"T FIND IT WORKING under steam for compat-layered titles, they know why and do nothing for years apparently. Your input will be tampered to gamepad and you will find it logically impossible to remap it considering the amount of axis above standard for gamepads and cheap sticks.

With native titles such as warthunder - all good to go, works as per userspace calibration functionality of (for example) https://github.com/meleu/jstest-sdl

Own controllers won't sell themselves, as well as the rest of childish gamepad style stuff eh, thus you got one questionable way to deal with it - https://github.com/AntiMicroX/antimicrox