the playerbase is not fun

[Maghoul]

i have only ran into randoms that choose the worst move to make every turn or ones that always choose the best move every turn, if you're going to comment don't tell me anything along the lines of "just get better at predicting" or anything similar to that I want to play the game casually

[Hook Master]

Originally posted by Maghoul:

I want to play the game casually

Well, there's the problem

Yomi hustle is pretty competitive, it doesn't even have a real singleplayer mode.
You're going to need to learn how to beat others, it's nothing like other fighting games. The absolute best thing you can do is get the piss beaten out of you. I have learned so much from getting pummeled by dude's echelons higher in skill than me that I went from basically hitting buttons till I hit somebody to executing pretty lengthy combos in the span of maybe 3 days.
It's a game of chess masquerading as a fighting game, prediction is everything.
Don't be afraid to throw out something completely unpredictable either, the best move is always the most predicatable.

[Maghoul]

Originally posted by StaticSpark:

Originally posted by Maghoul:

I want to play the game casually

Well, there's the problem

Yomi hustle is pretty competitive, it doesn't even have a real singleplayer mode.
You're going to need to learn how to beat others, it's nothing like other fighting games. The absolute best thing you can do is get the piss beaten out of you. I have learned so much from getting pummeled by dude's echelons higher in skill than me that I went from basically hitting buttons till I hit somebody to executing pretty lengthy combos in the span of maybe 3 days.
It's a game of chess masquerading as a fighting game, prediction is everything.
Don't be afraid to throw out something completely unpredictable either, the best move is always the most predicatable.

if its chess masquerading as a fighting game then whats the problem with playing casually people play chess casually the game isn't advertised as a competitive game the only way you could infer that it is is because of how fast the replays go because fast means competitive i guess, its the players that are making it competitive not the game its self because like you said its not an actual fighting game so im not wrong to want to play it casually

[Hook Master]

Originally posted by Maghoul:

Originally posted by StaticSpark:

Well, there's the problem

Yomi hustle is pretty competitive, it doesn't even have a real singleplayer mode.
You're going to need to learn how to beat others, it's nothing like other fighting games. The absolute best thing you can do is get the piss beaten out of you. I have learned so much from getting pummeled by dude's echelons higher in skill than me that I went from basically hitting buttons till I hit somebody to executing pretty lengthy combos in the span of maybe 3 days.
It's a game of chess masquerading as a fighting game, prediction is everything.
Don't be afraid to throw out something completely unpredictable either, the best move is always the most predicatable.

if its chess masquerading as a fighting game then whats the problem with playing casually people play chess casually the game isn't advertised as a competitive game the only way you could infer that it is is because of how fast the replays go because fast means competitive i guess, its the players that are making it competitive not the game its self because like you said its not an actual fighting game so im not wrong to want to play it casually

True, you can play chess "casually" but at its heart it's still a competition. A 1v1 of wits. That's exactly what it is here, you either pick the right move or the wrong one. With "casual" games there's options, sure, there can be a definitive "best" option, but there's still others that you can win or play with. In Yomi a mistake is a mistake and unless your opponent also makes one they will ALWAYS capitalize, because this game is win or lose.
That's why people take it "competitively" is because the only way out of the match is as a victor or as a puddle on the floor

[Mysath]

The game will never be fun if they don't add some sort of matchmaking, tired of ending up fighting a guy with 645674 hours that will just keep me stunlocked 99% of the match even if I use my burst.

It's soo fun and engaging, really makes you want to learn the game more when you just spend most of the matches just messing with a blue circle and locking in, begging that your opponent messes up.

[Lanceps]

isnt it just like any other fighting game ever? I feel like the only difference is that matches are much longer and therefore losing alot would be over 10 mins of you just spectating your failure(s) frame by frame basically.

[VV_insane]

i know you told people not to say stuff like this but continue playing the game, if you play a bit more and you dont find it fun / you have anger issues or something thats fine, im not preventing you from stopping, but its really fast to get decent at the game if you keep on trying. if you want to play casually dont take your losses seriously, use the chat, ect.

[Maghoul]

Originally posted by cry a trout it 🐟:

i know you told people not to say stuff like this but continue playing the game, if you play a bit more and you dont find it fun / you have anger issues or something thats fine, im not preventing you from stopping, but its really fast to get decent at the game if you keep on trying. if you want to play casually dont take your losses seriously, use the chat, ect.

i can respect this take

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by Lanceps:

isnt it just like any other fighting game ever? I feel like the only difference is that matches are much longer and therefore losing alot would be over 10 mins of you just spectating your failure(s) frame by frame basically.

It's worth mentioning that the genesis of Super Smash Bros was Sakurai utterly deleting someone in a fighting game who he afterwards realized had never played the game before and would probably never play it again. Because Sakurai is a better person than most, he felt bad about this and used the fact that he designed video games for a living to create one with a lower barrier to entry.

[Big Sword]

just get better at predicting

[RokoSkyTiger]

One thing I find tricky is that when you click on every option to figure out your foe's next move can lead to a bit of information overload. Though you could argue that every fighting game is like that when you're new. The game is just a bit more in your face about it.

[Count Schmeckula]

Originally posted by Maghoul:

i have only ran into randoms that choose the worst move to make every turn or ones that always choose the best move every turn, if you're going to comment don't tell me anything along the lines of "just get better at predicting" or anything similar to that I want to play the game casually

This is definitely a strategy game and I respect that you really want to play it. Yes people are going to be making chaotic and sometimes stupid plays because
*People are Chaotic, and often times stupid*
Sometimes they will choose the optimal choice, sometimes they will make a terrible choice, unfortunately that means your strategy has to evolve on a match by match basis. Most games i find myself choosing a counter to what i would do if i was them and my opponent NOT choosing the optimal move was in fact optimal after all because my move left me open.

As far as being hyper competitive...this is a turned based strategy/fighting game
both genres are known for sweaty tryhards, that's part of what some people enjoy about those games and this one is no different.

I also realize it can be frustrating to get bodied on Yomi Hustle and not be able to figure out why, happens to me pretty often and i have to watch my replays in 0.25 speed to see where i messed up.


If you want to play casually, just use Fallen from the mod workshop
He is fun, has a great move set, extra health, a counter move, multiple far reaching attacks, and a command grab that 1 shots opponents in the right circumstance(i think this is a bug) also the replays look cool

Learn the Nuances of the DI input, it can be a game changer
Maybe this youtube vid will help you as much as it helped me

if all else fails, just play single player and have fun making cool fight videos casually at your own pace
Nobody can tell you how to play the game, and you're allowed to feel how you want about it

https://youtu.be/1NH1ko61rkw