Your Only Move Is HUSTLE

Your Only Move Is HUSTLE

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Mayka32 Feb 21, 2023 @ 1:37pm
Frame Advantage
So can anybody explain to me what it is? Does it gives me some extra frames to act or something different?
Originally posted by Noutaja:
Originally posted by Mayka32:
Originally posted by Noutaja:
Each move takes a certain amount of frames (time) to do. Frame (dis)advantage is the difference between your and your opponent's move's duration. Hitting your opponent puts him/her in hitstun that lasts a varying amount of time depending on the move you used. Hitting your opponent usually lets you act again first. So if the readout on the prediction says +4 frame advantage, you can hit your opponent with a quick jab next turn (if you're close enough), because the jab comes out in 4 frames. This of course assumes you predicted what your opponent does correctly.

So during fight when i see opponent's panel with his moves i need to predict and choose which move he will gonna use?
Yes. He can also tick the "Free" box, which will let him choose a new move, if you get a turn before his move completes. This could be what trips up many new players. The move you first predict, might not be the one that actually hits you. You can try out how the free cancels work in single player. Choose a slow move for your opponent, but tick the Free on him, and a fast move for yourself. As long as his move wasn't too slow, he can choose a new one, that might beat what you went with. You can of course also use a free cancel, in which case you both can choose a new move (but you can go with the old one that's halfway there already too).
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Noutaja Feb 21, 2023 @ 1:47pm 
Each move takes a certain amount of frames (time) to do. Frame (dis)advantage is the difference between your and your opponent's move's duration. Hitting your opponent puts him/her in hitstun that lasts a varying amount of time depending on the move you used. Hitting your opponent usually lets you act again first. So if the readout on the prediction says +4 frame advantage, you can hit your opponent with a quick jab next turn (if you're close enough), because the jab comes out in 4 frames. This of course assumes you predicted what your opponent does correctly.
Mayka32 Feb 21, 2023 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by Noutaja:
Each move takes a certain amount of frames (time) to do. Frame (dis)advantage is the difference between your and your opponent's move's duration. Hitting your opponent puts him/her in hitstun that lasts a varying amount of time depending on the move you used. Hitting your opponent usually lets you act again first. So if the readout on the prediction says +4 frame advantage, you can hit your opponent with a quick jab next turn (if you're close enough), because the jab comes out in 4 frames. This of course assumes you predicted what your opponent does correctly.

So during fight when i see opponent's panel with his moves i need to predict and choose which move he will gonna use?
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Noutaja Feb 21, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by Mayka32:
Originally posted by Noutaja:
Each move takes a certain amount of frames (time) to do. Frame (dis)advantage is the difference between your and your opponent's move's duration. Hitting your opponent puts him/her in hitstun that lasts a varying amount of time depending on the move you used. Hitting your opponent usually lets you act again first. So if the readout on the prediction says +4 frame advantage, you can hit your opponent with a quick jab next turn (if you're close enough), because the jab comes out in 4 frames. This of course assumes you predicted what your opponent does correctly.

So during fight when i see opponent's panel with his moves i need to predict and choose which move he will gonna use?
Yes. He can also tick the "Free" box, which will let him choose a new move, if you get a turn before his move completes. This could be what trips up many new players. The move you first predict, might not be the one that actually hits you. You can try out how the free cancels work in single player. Choose a slow move for your opponent, but tick the Free on him, and a fast move for yourself. As long as his move wasn't too slow, he can choose a new one, that might beat what you went with. You can of course also use a free cancel, in which case you both can choose a new move (but you can go with the old one that's halfway there already too).
Mayka32 Feb 21, 2023 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Noutaja:
Originally posted by Mayka32:

So during fight when i see opponent's panel with his moves i need to predict and choose which move he will gonna use?
Yes. He can also tick the "Free" box, which will let him choose a new move, if you get a turn before his move completes. This could be what trips up many new players. The move you first predict, might not be the one that actually hits you. You can try out how the free cancels work in single player. Choose a slow move for your opponent, but tick the Free on him, and a fast move for yourself. As long as his move wasn't too slow, he can choose a new one, that might beat what you went with. You can of course also use a free cancel, in which case you both can choose a new move (but you can go with the old one that's halfway there already too).
This mechanic so complex lol. TY for answers.
NotSteve333 Feb 22, 2023 @ 9:38pm 
Originally posted by Mayka32:
Originally posted by Noutaja:
Yes. He can also tick the "Free" box, which will let him choose a new move, if you get a turn before his move completes. This could be what trips up many new players. The move you first predict, might not be the one that actually hits you. You can try out how the free cancels work in single player. Choose a slow move for your opponent, but tick the Free on him, and a fast move for yourself. As long as his move wasn't too slow, he can choose a new one, that might beat what you went with. You can of course also use a free cancel, in which case you both can choose a new move (but you can go with the old one that's halfway there already too).
This mechanic so complex lol. TY for answers.
it def is complex but it is just an extension of common fighting game mechanics. A lot of people are trying YOMI that would never play fighting games otherwise, so there is that initial learning curve, but you can get used to it pretty quickly. Honestly if you want to really efficiently learn fighting game theory the YouTube channel Core-A-Gaming has some of the best videos on the subject
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