Why do campaigns only have either zombies or J'avos?

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

I don't really understand how Leon and Helena never run into a J'avo once when they are in China. Same goes for Chris, Piers, Sherry and Jake, who never run into a zombie once in China, despite it having both at the time. Ada and Agent being the only ones who encounter both.

Is there really any canonical reason that these characters only encounter either zombies or J'avos for the entire campaign? And do they even know about them??

[HATFPWDCATE]

leon and helena fight the regenerator things which i think are considered javos. as for why chris, piers, sherry, and jake never fight zombies its because they were only in two spots the outbreak in tall oaks and the outbreak in china but the outbreak in china happened after jake and sherry had been captured and chris and piers were in the harrier heading to rescue jake and sherry. the missile we fail to shoot down playing as chris and piers is what caused the zombie outbreak in china. personally i hate this, i wouldve handled chris's campaign differently, so many different ways they couldve taken it but no go with the petty revenge plot. i think the final chapter would've been better if chris and piers had been there when the missile went off and you had to take the survivors along with leon and helena and make your way to the tower fighting block by block, then evac at the quad tower and go save jake and sherry, but thats just how i wouldve done it

[ThePunisherMHN]

because both are in different place of the game

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

Originally posted by HATFPWDCATE:

leon and helena fight the regenerator things which i think are considered javos. as for why chris, piers, sherry, and jake never fight zombies its because they were only in two spots the outbreak in tall oaks and the outbreak in china but the outbreak in china happened after jake and sherry had been captured and chris and piers were in the harrier heading to rescue jake and sherry. the missile we fail to shoot down playing as chris and piers is what caused the zombie outbreak in china. personally i hate this, i wouldve handled chris's campaign differently, so many different ways they couldve taken it but no go with the petty revenge plot. i think the final chapter would've been better if chris and piers had been there when the missile went off and you had to take the survivors along with leon and helena and make your way to the tower fighting block by block, then evac at the quad tower and go save jake and sherry, but thats just how i wouldve done it

Rasklapanjes you mean? They are not considered J'avos and are their own thing.

Also, there was zombies in China before the outbreak with the missle, as seen in Ada's campaign.

[mert20004]

Cause leon and helena dont spend that much time in china? Not to mention; neo umbrella is trying to capture jake and sherry dead or alive to prevent them from reaching simmons while trying to stop bsaa. Leon and helena dont really have any use to the organization.

Chris and piers dont fight any zombies cause no gas strain is used in poisawan. They fight some in marhawa desire manga though.

Jake and sherry dont fight any either though they encounter some corpses in chapter 4 which are killed by ada. There is also a lepotica corpse with a crowbar impaled to it. It's actually the one leon and helena fight in the plane which they launch away from it.

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

Originally posted by mert20004:

Cause leon and helena dont spend that much time in china? Not to mention; neo umbrella is trying to capture jake and sherry dead or alive to prevent them from reaching simmons while trying to stop bsaa. Leon and helena dont really have any use to the organization.

Chris and piers dont fight any zombies cause no gas strain is used in poisawan. They fight some in marhawa desire manga though.

Jake and sherry dont fight any either though they encounter some corpses in chapter 4 which are killed by ada. There is also a lepotica corpse with a crowbar impaled to it. It's actually the one leon and helena fight in the plane which they launch away from it.

Oh wait... the zombies you see in Ada's campaign where the dead Lepotica is... are they people that turned from the Lepotica which landed there??

[mert20004]

Originally posted by R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Originally posted by mert20004:

Cause leon and helena dont spend that much time in china? Not to mention; neo umbrella is trying to capture jake and sherry dead or alive to prevent them from reaching simmons while trying to stop bsaa. Leon and helena dont really have any use to the organization.

Chris and piers dont fight any zombies cause no gas strain is used in poisawan. They fight some in marhawa desire manga though.

Jake and sherry dont fight any either though they encounter some corpses in chapter 4 which are killed by ada. There is also a lepotica corpse with a crowbar impaled to it. It's actually the one leon and helena fight in the plane which they launch away from it.

Oh wait... the zombies you see in Ada's campaign where the dead Lepotica is... are they people that turned from the Lepotica which landed there??

Yep. Most likely after dying; it spreaded gas and infected the civilians there.

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

Originally posted by mert20004:

Originally posted by R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Oh wait... the zombies you see in Ada's campaign where the dead Lepotica is... are they people that turned from the Lepotica which landed there??

Yep. Most likely after dying; it spreaded gas and infected the civilians there.

Ahh... that explains why you don't encounter zombies in Jake or Chris's campaigns. Though I still don't get why Leon and Helena never see a J'avo. My question is, do they even know about them?

[mert20004]

Originally posted by R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Originally posted by mert20004:

Yep. Most likely after dying; it spreaded gas and infected the civilians there.

Ahh... that explains why you don't encounter zombies in Jake or Chris's campaigns. Though I still don't get why Leon and Helena never see a J'avo. My question is, do they even know about them?

Like ı said; j'avos wouldnt really acquire anything from leon and helena who dont spend that much time in china compared to bsaa and jake / sherry; they have no use to the organization.

Neo umbrella would probably know about them through simmons since during some time period of tall oaks incident; simmons wasnt aware of carla's betrayal. She might be able to be in contact with him to learn info. That is until ada tells this info to him at the end of chapter 2.

[45]

because zombies are more for the tutorial since theyre slower and have far less variety. Any variety they do have is an advantage to the player. (almost every variant is a weapon wielded or embedded that makes killing them easier)

[Lanzagranadas]

There's no actual story reason, it's just a gameplay design choice. They wanted each of the three campaigns that were available from the start to focus on one type of basic enemy. That way, you'd have more reason to play the other campaigns to experience what you didn't during your first one.

Besides, they wanted each campaign to be a somewhat different experience to try pleasing different audiences. Leon's was the "Survival Horror bait" campaign, with zombies, and spooky atmosphere in the first chapters to lure old school fans. Chris' was more of a war game campaign, with cover mechanics, enemies that can shoot at you, etc.

[mert20004]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

There's no actual story reason, it's just a gameplay design choice. They wanted each of the three campaigns that were available from the start to focus on one type of basic enemy. That way, you'd have more reason to play the other campaigns to experience what you didn't during your first one.

Besides, they wanted each campaign to be a somewhat different experience to try pleasing different audiences. Leon's was the "Survival Horror bait" campaign, with zombies, and spooky atmosphere in the first chapters to lure old school fans. Chris' was more of a war game campaign, with cover mechanics, enemies that can shoot at you, etc.

All of the campaigns in re6 are action horror that focus on action more than horror. Leon's is simply the most horror themed campaign in the game ( Just like how re5 lin is re5's horror themed campaign in the game. ) and compared to re5 lin; it feels improved mainly cause it's longer, ( Re5 lin is very short. ) you fight more monsters and there's good variety of them, ( Blobs are the only monsters in that dlc until you reach to wesker. ) more character interactions between leon and helena plus ı liked their partnership and helena doesnt feel forced unlike re4's entire plot and ashley, ( I wished re5 lin had more character interactions with chris and jill. Some dialogue is cut. ) exploring more locations and area etc. ( Re5 lin takes place in a shorter area and it's very linear. Re6 is also very linear just like re4 and re5 but feels more focused due to going through more locations faster with good monster variety to keep things fresh. )

What's wrong with trying new things exactly? They did that in other mainline entries before re6 but somehow it's a problem for re6 cause? Not to mention making re6 just like pre-re4 mainline entries wouldnt make sense from a gameplay and story perspective.

Also you can take cover in leon's campaign too ( Useful against c zombies armed with firearms plus you can grab stunned monsters and ohk them from there. ) so ıdk why you're making that statement exclusively for chris'.

[45]

he didn't say there was anything wrong about it. Also you shouldn't be taking cover in any of em. The optimal way to play is to use guns for hitstun and melee attacks as follow ups

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by 45:

he didn't say there was anything wrong about it. Also you shouldn't be taking cover in any of em. The optimal way to play is to use guns for hitstun and melee attacks as follow ups

There are certain sections in Chris' and Jake's campaigns that are clearly designed around the use of cover mechanic. Of course the cover exists in all campaigns, but in those two it does definitely have a purpose, you don't just run in the open to punch a stunned guy in the face with heavy machine gun / sniper J'avos firing at you, at least when playing on a high difficulty setting.

And yes, I didn't say there was anything wrong or right with it, since I wasn't giving an opinion. Just described how they wanted to make each campaign a somewhat different experience for different audiences.

[45]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

you don't just run in the open to punch a stunned guy in the face with heavy machine gun / sniper J'avos firing at you, at least when playing on a high difficulty setting.

Yes you do, me and a friend have the high score on all of chris' campaign no hope.

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by 45:

Yes you do, me and a friend have the high score on all of chris' campaign no hope.

Good for you and your friend, but what high scores? We're talking about campaign, not Mercenaries, you don't get a higher score for charging towards groups of armed J'avos and kickboxing them all on No Hope than if you just find some cover and take them out safely when the game gives you the chance.

Certain sections in Chris and Jake campaigns are obviously designed around using cover, that's why sandbags, crates, tables or other objects to take cover behind are there. Players who are somewhat familiar with cover based shooters will probably use the mechanic to their advantage, because why not using something that can help you avoiding damage? While players who come from more traditional RE games or just don't like the cover mechanic might ignore it, and still beat the game anyway.

But the cover system is there, and there's no advantage in engaging groups of armed J'avos by using melee combat over taking them out from a safe position. There's no optimal way to play or things you shouldn't use, just different tactics that are useful (or not) depending on what enemies you're fighting. Taking cover isn't mandatory, just like Counters aren't mandatory to beat the game, but all the mechanics help if used at the right situation.