Assassins Creed veterans, would you recommend buying Valhalla?

[Blu]

I've been avoiding the newer games like the plague because I felt they really lost their identity compared to the older games I grew up with. I recently started Odyssey due to interest since I'm Greek and I fell in love with it even though I still feel like it's not an "Assassins Creed" game.

The combat is quite different from the older games and it took a while to get used to, but once I got a good assassin's build it felt a lot better. Everything else though ( apart from the combat) is absolutely amazing and unique.

My issue about Valhalla though is that it seems people's opinions on it are really 50/50 and I want to know from the series vets' if it's actually worth playing. Judging from most videos I have seen, it's just a massive game filled with bloat and it looks almost nothing like an assassin's creed game. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it looks bad as a game. It just seems to lack the feel of what the series had.

Note: I'm aware Ubisoft has been saying sh*t like "You don't own the games you purchase " etc. All I want are valid answers or criticisms about the game and not the shady stuff developers do or say.

[JJJohnson]

Disassociate these games as "Assassin's Creed" then if you can do that, for sure buy it. If you're looking for a good AC game, then no.

[VDRSK]

Unlike previous titles this has a "insta-kill" assassination option, but other then that it is pretty much identical to the other games, lots of bloat and such, it's a great game imo, however it overstays its welcome by hmmm 400 hrs lol.

The story is quite cool though and that would drove me to finish. that ragnarok DLC is really cool although at that point just throw the Assassin's Creed title out the window.

[=Palynzer=]

If you are looking for the gameplay of the old AC, you will not find it, since it has changed since Origins...although here the thing about being able to blend in with people to go unnoticed returns.
I like the gameplay better now, the combat of the first ones always seemed rheumatic to me.
If you liked Odyssey, you'll like this one.
It is divided between those who like Odyssey and this one more.
I like the protagonist and the skills more about Odyssey, but the rest, story, etc., this one seems better and more fun to me. I love castle sieges, very entertaining.

[JJJohnson]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Palynzer:

If you are looking for the gameplay of the old AC, you will not find it, since it has changed since Origins...although here the thing about being able to blend in with people to go unnoticed returns.
I like the gameplay better now, the combat of the first ones always seemed rheumatic to me.
If you liked Odyssey, you'll like this one.
It is divided between those who like Odyssey and this one more.
I like the protagonist and the skills more about Odyssey, but the rest, story, etc., this one seems better and more fun to me. I love castle sieges, very entertaining.

I just didn't like the RPG approach they took to the newer games. It goes against the design philosophy of the original AC games and the franchise as a whole. I feel like they could've just done away with the "Assassin's Creed" title and made a new IP with the systems made.

[=Palynzer=]

Ursprungligen skrivet av JJJohnson:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Palynzer:

If you are looking for the gameplay of the old AC, you will not find it, since it has changed since Origins...although here the thing about being able to blend in with people to go unnoticed returns.
I like the gameplay better now, the combat of the first ones always seemed rheumatic to me.
If you liked Odyssey, you'll like this one.
It is divided between those who like Odyssey and this one more.
I like the protagonist and the skills more about Odyssey, but the rest, story, etc., this one seems better and more fun to me. I love castle sieges, very entertaining.

I just didn't like the RPG approach they took to the newer games. It goes against the design philosophy of the original AC games and the franchise as a whole. I feel like they could've just done away with the "Assassin's Creed" title and made a new IP with the systems made.

Well, I love rpgs...That being said, AC II is one of my favorites, apart from the combat, as I already said, in my opinion it has aged poorly.

[Blu]

Ursprungligen skrivet av VDRSK:

Unlike previous titles this has a "insta-kill" assassination option, but other then that it is pretty much identical to the other games, lots of bloat and such, it's a great game imo, however it overstays its welcome by hmmm 400 hrs lol.

The story is quite cool though and that would drove me to finish. that ragnarok DLC is really cool although at that point just throw the Assassin's Creed title out the window.

I heard it takes a long time to actually beat this game. I wouldn't mind that as long as there's fun to be had in the world.

[LeftPaw]

I'm not what you call a AC fan. The only AC game I like and play is Odyssey. I bought Valhalla thinking it was going to be more of the same. Unfortunately it was nothing like Odyssey, Valhalla I found to be terribly boring.

[Sem56]

nope

if origins and the new style ain't your thing (which i am totally on your side of, they aren't even assassins anymore)

the witcher 3 had big success and then surprise surprise, the next AC that comes out is just the witcher 3 but a terrible version of it and a grind fest

don't buy it

[VDRSK]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Sem56:

the witcher 3 had big success and then surprise surprise, the next AC that comes out is just the witcher 3 but a terrible version of it and a grind fest

In my humble opinion Witcher 3 is an bad to mediocre game with an amazing story and characters and interesting world

the new AC games have interesting skill trees, good to great stories, good characters and the worlds are somewhat interesting.

I'd say on an average AC games are better then Witcher 3, which has a lot of bad but has some really stand out things.

[Sem56]

Ursprungligen skrivet av VDRSK:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Sem56:

the witcher 3 had big success and then surprise surprise, the next AC that comes out is just the witcher 3 but a terrible version of it and a grind fest

In my humble opinion Witcher 3 is an bad to mediocre game with an amazing story and characters and interesting world

the new AC games have interesting skill trees, good to great stories, good characters and the worlds are somewhat interesting.

I'd say on an average AC games are better then Witcher 3, which has a lot of bad but has some really stand out things.

said nobody ever

[VDRSK]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Sem56:

said nobody ever

I said it so that would be wrong objectively speaking.

[Argakyan]

If you have played the other games and you're only asking about the RPG-era, then I'd say play Origins before Valhalla. Even talking about Odyssey to me Origins was a lot better.

[LeftPaw]

I have started another play of Valhalla. So far I have failed to progress very far due to boredom, so this time I am trying out a new mind-set. Sometimes playing a game with a different mindset can help you to become interested in that game. I have proven this to myself quite a few times.

[bloodrosexr]

I enjoyed Valhalla. Highly recommend it

[ZombieHunter]

It is a good time waster, but forget that it is an AC game b/c it isn't. Not even close. Some of the history is also quite suspect and the overall portrayal is about as brutal as a Disney animated film. This is not what I expected from a Viking themed game. IMHO everything before Odyssey was much better. Odyssey was also a very fun game, but not an AC game by any means.

I think 1 and 2 were the best where you followed a story and were assassinating bad players along the way. In 3 it started to go downhill. 4 was an amazing game, but this is where AC started to falter. It was the best non pirate pirate game I've ever played. But it was not the best AC game I've ever played. After 4, it turned into more RPG fest and less AC themed game. Sure it has the wrappings of AC, but the core AC themes are long gone.

Valhalla is actually fairly boring to me. I cannot relate to any of the characters. I hate my own character and pretty much every character in the game. They are all cringe inducing, the writing is horrible, the quests are bland and there is way too much collect-a-thon nonsense going on. I also cannot abide Vikings taking over England so I'm not even rooting for my own clan to be successful. If I had the option, I'd join the other side b/c I do not side with what the Vikings are doing in the game.

This may be my last foray into AC for quite some time. They lost the narrative and the train has left the tracks. Get better writers. Study some history. Give us those time periods AS THEY WERE not as we would see them today. Or you know, just make a pirate game like you wanted to with 4. A true pirate game. Not S&B nonsense. A single player pirate game. And don't try to sell me 5 outfits for some stupid in-game currency or a different colored parrot.

As for Ubi, they better right the ship before it sinks. For right now I'd rather abandon ship and take my chances with the sharks than stay aboard.