Assassin's Creed Valhalla

Assassin's Creed Valhalla

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Shzy Dec 24, 2023 @ 7:21am
Is FSR 1.0 or 2.0 in Valhalla, Is it any good?
I'm thinking to buy Valhalla complete edition for my friend he has 1660 Super and 10400 how much fps to expect with FSR? I couldn't find any benchmarking video with FSR
Originally posted by Freakshow:
So, with your 10400, you have 6 cores/12 threads. That's pretty much plenty for 98-99% of games. You may notice 80%+ running BF5 or BF2042, or doing something unnecessary like running BeamNG Drive with 40+ cars doing AI traffic, but yeah, other than that, 6c/12t should be plenty for the vast majority of games.

If I'm seeing 25-30% with 12c/24t, then you seeing 50-60% with 6c/12t sounds perfectly fine. Plus it depends on the area and amount of people around you along with the framerate you're pushing. You'll see more CPU usage at 200fps than you would at 20fps. Just an extreme example.

I'd recommend trying 1920x1080, all max, textures turned down a notch like mentioned above and FSR @ Ultra Quality first. If that doesn't give you what you're looking for in performance, try bringing FSR on down to quality.

PLUS there's a resolution slider you can play with in this game. So, maybe 1920x1080 @ 90% with FSR @ Ultra Quality may be the sweet spot for you. Just play around with the settings.

If I managed to enjoy it on my Ryzen 5 3600 + RX480 8GB, I'm sure you'll be okay with a 10400 (pretty much the R5 3600's equivalent) and the 1660 Super which is a better GPU than the RX480/580. It's just that this game so happens to prefer AMD GPUs by quite a bit. And it REALLY benefits from SAM being enabled. But, that wasn't possible with the RX480 8GB at the time, so that doesn't matter.

There's something about this game that I just love. It's beautiful, it has a nice story, it's huge with LOTS of gameplay. I think it's worth a shot.

Edit: If this link shows up, it shows the RX480 8GB vs 5600XT vs 1660S all paired with a Ryzen 5 5500 (which is probably a bit more powerful than a 10400, but I don't think you'll see much difference with the bottlenecking going on with the 1660 Super running at Ultra/Near Ultra settings). Without FSR and all max settings @ 1920x1080, the 1660 Super APPEARS to be pushing over 50fps in the built in benchmark the game has. So, that's good news if you ask me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxRNS4Yj2UM

Don't forget, as long as you don't put more than 2 hours on the game or have it for, what, 2 weeks?... you can get a full refund with no questions asked. So feel free to give it a shot and see if it can meet whatever your expectations may be.

In that video comparison, it seems that the 1660 Super performs FAR, FAR better in Valhalla than it does in Odyssey, too, so that's another plus for ya.

Yeah, I say go for it. Hopefully you aren't running some large monitor that's 27"+ or the 1920x1080 may look a bit cruddy. 22" is really the max for 1920x1080, but 24" is "okay" for that resolution, too. That's my experience, anyways.

That's why I had to move on up to a 27" 2560x1440 144hz monitor, I couldn't handle my particular 24" 1920x1080 144hz monitor. I could see every pixel from my sitting distance. But, hey, you can always scoot back a little. Or if it's a TV, you'll be far enough back that everything should look just fine.

I don't think you're going to need FSR at all if 50-55fps is good for you. Turn on FSR Ultra Quality and you'll be running at 65-70fps, anyways, with little to no loss in visual quality.
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RedCelt Dec 24, 2023 @ 11:33am 
There is an excellent guide for Starfield.
It details how to put DLSS in a game that has FSR

It works exactly the same for this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3028942285&searchtext=dlss
Last edited by RedCelt; Dec 24, 2023 @ 11:36am
Shzy Dec 24, 2023 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by RedCelt:
There is an excellent guide for Starfield.
It details how to put DLSS in a game that has FSR

It works exactly the same for this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3028942285&searchtext=dlss
will this work for GTX ?
RedCelt Dec 24, 2023 @ 2:31pm 
Sorry dude
Just seen the 1660 bit

No it will not
I think the FSR implementation is actually good enough. Especially on Ultra

My friend has the 1660 ti. Still a good card,
Shzy Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by RedCelt:
Sorry dude
Just seen the 1660 bit

No it will not
I think the FSR implementation is actually good enough. Especially on Ultra

My friend has the 1660 ti. Still a good card,
but still will 1660s run valhalla good?
RedCelt Dec 25, 2023 @ 3:22am 
Yes. It will handle it fine.

Keep textures at high, not ultra.
You will run out of vram

So FSR (if needed at all ) on Ultra
Textures on High
Last edited by RedCelt; Dec 25, 2023 @ 3:23am
Shzy Dec 25, 2023 @ 3:37am 
Originally posted by RedCelt:
Yes. It will handle it fine.

Keep textures at high, not ultra.
You will run out of vram

So FSR (if needed at all ) on Ultra
Textures on High
this gpu ran Odyssey pretty fine 100+ fps most of time and most intense locations it would dip to 70 with textures high, character texture high and ambient to medium, rest of settings were off or low

same applies to valhalla? if one was able to run odyssey fine?
RedCelt Dec 25, 2023 @ 4:50am 
1080p should be fine. Maybe set vsync to 60fps


Just a heads up about the first section of the game.
It is based in Norway and it is not well optimised.
There is a frame time issue that makes it stutter a bit.

This ends once you reach England
1singur Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:32pm 
I have a laptop with a 1660ti and cranked the game up to max with no FSR, and it goes above 30fps in most cases, but does not reach 60. The game is well playable on Ultra with this card, so any 1660 range should do well at least on Medium. Note that it does have stutters from time to time, but I doubt the GPU is at fault here.

EDIT: I play on 1080p, btw.
Last edited by 1singur; Dec 31, 2023 @ 2:22am
Freakshow Dec 28, 2023 @ 10:17pm 
The game uses FSR 1.0 and it's implemented fairly well... at least at Ultra Quality.
I last played this on a Ryzen 5 3600 and Asus STRIX RX480 8GB. I had use to FSR @ Ultra Quality most of the time, and sometimes drop on down o Quality.

It's been a long time, but I seem to remember having a hard time getting to 40fps with that set up, but I may have ran max settings and 1440p. Could have been 1080p, I honestly can't remember. It was just too much for the RX480 8GB.

I'm starting fresh with a 5900x + 6700XT 12GB this go around. At the start, as a child walking into the party/celebration, 1440p all max and no FSR, I'm getting 80fps. If I use Fluid Motion Frames, I get closer to 160-170fps, but I decided to leave that off for a bit and see how it really performs. I'm getting 80fps at the lowest. If I look another direction, I hit 115+fps.

But, yeah, FSR 1.0 @! Ultra Quality looks very nice at 1440p. I seem to recall noticing a bit of quality loss at FSR 1.0 UQ @ 1080p, though, when I was running the 480 8GB.

Edit; Now, this is the very beginning (I'm a child at the party), and I have 2x16GB DDR4 3600 C16 dual rank RAM (so, 32GB RAM), and I leave things open like Steam, Xbox App, EA app (not Chrome or IE), and I'm using 10.3 GB VRAM and 15.2 GB RAM and I'm just at the start.

So, if you have 8GB VRAM, do what you can to keep it below that. That may be why my RX80 8GB performed so badly.

I'm also showing 33-34% CPU usage (12c/24t 5900x) just standing watching the crowd dance. Probably won't always be that high, but you'll surely need at least a R5 3600/i5 10600k to not run into CPU bottnecks. I mean, a 6700k/7700k MAY do just fine, but yeah, I'd want a bit more than that. And, yes, a 5900x is overkill for everything threadwise... I just wanted one.
Last edited by Freakshow; Dec 28, 2023 @ 10:33pm
Shzy Dec 28, 2023 @ 10:48pm 
Originally posted by Freakshow:
The game uses FSR 1.0 and it's implemented fairly well... at least at Ultra Quality.
I last played this on a Ryzen 5 3600 and Asus STRIX RX480 8GB. I had use to FSR @ Ultra Quality most of the time, and sometimes drop on down o Quality.

It's been a long time, but I seem to remember having a hard time getting to 40fps with that set up, but I may have ran max settings and 1440p. Could have been 1080p, I honestly can't remember. It was just too much for the RX480 8GB.

I'm starting fresh with a 5900x + 6700XT 12GB this go around. At the start, as a child walking into the party/celebration, 1440p all max and no FSR, I'm getting 80fps. If I use Fluid Motion Frames, I get closer to 160-170fps, but I decided to leave that off for a bit and see how it really performs. I'm getting 80fps at the lowest. If I look another direction, I hit 115+fps.

But, yeah, FSR 1.0 @! Ultra Quality looks very nice at 1440p. I seem to recall noticing a bit of quality loss at FSR 1.0 UQ @ 1080p, though, when I was running the 480 8GB.

Edit; Now, this is the very beginning (I'm a child at the party), and I have 2x16GB DDR4 3600 C16 dual rank RAM (so, 32GB RAM), and I leave things open like Steam, Xbox App, EA app (not Chrome or IE), and I'm using 10.3 GB VRAM and 15.2 GB RAM and I'm just at the start.

So, if you have 8GB VRAM, do what you can to keep it below that. That may be why my RX80 8GB performed so badly.

I'm also showing 33-34% CPU usage (12c/24t 5900x) just standing watching the crowd dance. Probably won't always be that high, but you'll surely need at least a R5 3600/i5 10600k to not run into CPU bottnecks. I mean, a 6700k/7700k MAY do just fine, but yeah, I'd want a bit more than that. And, yes, a 5900x is overkill for everything threadwise... I just wanted one.
the game has very low cpu usage like 40 or 50% but my gpu gets 99% is there wrong something or this is how valhalla works?
Kuma Dec 28, 2023 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by Shzy:
the game has very low cpu usage like 40 or 50% but my gpu gets 99% is there wrong something or this is how valhalla works?
This is how most games work, gpu does the heavy work. Something would be wrong if it was the other way around.
Shzy Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Kuma:
Originally posted by Shzy:
the game has very low cpu usage like 40 or 50% but my gpu gets 99% is there wrong something or this is how valhalla works?
This is how most games work, gpu does the heavy work. Something would be wrong if it was the other way around.
but 30 50? other games at least take up to 70 80% or this game is not so cpu dependent?
Kuma Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:32am 
Originally posted by Shzy:
or this game is not so cpu dependent?
Indeed, the better you cpu is the lower this usage will be.
mosa Dec 29, 2023 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Shzy:
I'm thinking to buy Valhalla complete edition for my friend he has 1660 Super and 10400 how much fps to expect with FSR? I couldn't find any benchmarking video with FSR
You are a very good friend for gifting him a game :).
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Freakshow Dec 31, 2023 @ 8:19pm 
So, with your 10400, you have 6 cores/12 threads. That's pretty much plenty for 98-99% of games. You may notice 80%+ running BF5 or BF2042, or doing something unnecessary like running BeamNG Drive with 40+ cars doing AI traffic, but yeah, other than that, 6c/12t should be plenty for the vast majority of games.

If I'm seeing 25-30% with 12c/24t, then you seeing 50-60% with 6c/12t sounds perfectly fine. Plus it depends on the area and amount of people around you along with the framerate you're pushing. You'll see more CPU usage at 200fps than you would at 20fps. Just an extreme example.

I'd recommend trying 1920x1080, all max, textures turned down a notch like mentioned above and FSR @ Ultra Quality first. If that doesn't give you what you're looking for in performance, try bringing FSR on down to quality.

PLUS there's a resolution slider you can play with in this game. So, maybe 1920x1080 @ 90% with FSR @ Ultra Quality may be the sweet spot for you. Just play around with the settings.

If I managed to enjoy it on my Ryzen 5 3600 + RX480 8GB, I'm sure you'll be okay with a 10400 (pretty much the R5 3600's equivalent) and the 1660 Super which is a better GPU than the RX480/580. It's just that this game so happens to prefer AMD GPUs by quite a bit. And it REALLY benefits from SAM being enabled. But, that wasn't possible with the RX480 8GB at the time, so that doesn't matter.

There's something about this game that I just love. It's beautiful, it has a nice story, it's huge with LOTS of gameplay. I think it's worth a shot.

Edit: If this link shows up, it shows the RX480 8GB vs 5600XT vs 1660S all paired with a Ryzen 5 5500 (which is probably a bit more powerful than a 10400, but I don't think you'll see much difference with the bottlenecking going on with the 1660 Super running at Ultra/Near Ultra settings). Without FSR and all max settings @ 1920x1080, the 1660 Super APPEARS to be pushing over 50fps in the built in benchmark the game has. So, that's good news if you ask me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxRNS4Yj2UM

Don't forget, as long as you don't put more than 2 hours on the game or have it for, what, 2 weeks?... you can get a full refund with no questions asked. So feel free to give it a shot and see if it can meet whatever your expectations may be.

In that video comparison, it seems that the 1660 Super performs FAR, FAR better in Valhalla than it does in Odyssey, too, so that's another plus for ya.

Yeah, I say go for it. Hopefully you aren't running some large monitor that's 27"+ or the 1920x1080 may look a bit cruddy. 22" is really the max for 1920x1080, but 24" is "okay" for that resolution, too. That's my experience, anyways.

That's why I had to move on up to a 27" 2560x1440 144hz monitor, I couldn't handle my particular 24" 1920x1080 144hz monitor. I could see every pixel from my sitting distance. But, hey, you can always scoot back a little. Or if it's a TV, you'll be far enough back that everything should look just fine.

I don't think you're going to need FSR at all if 50-55fps is good for you. Turn on FSR Ultra Quality and you'll be running at 65-70fps, anyways, with little to no loss in visual quality.
Last edited by Freakshow; Dec 31, 2023 @ 8:49pm
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