Another game ruined by impossible boss battles

[Geforce25]

What is is that makes developers think that nearly unwinnable boss battles are fun? They don't even fit with a game like this.

I was truly enjoying the game until I got to Asgard and the Wolf Boss who cannot be beat. Even changing difficulty to "Story" is of no use. It takes 43 hits to defeat the wolf - on EASIEST - two hits kills you. TWO. You can use one health to get it to three hits, and the plants MIGHT get you to four - if you time it right.

But you still have to play a basically PERFECT game - even on EASIEST to get past the brick wall the developers threw in the middle of the game.

Why? Who thinks this is a great idea?

[6Taylor4]

Asgard is in the middle of the game? I went there once, but came right back, and decided to leave it for later. Bosses are hard, but there's probably a specific strategy for each.

[lucent]

I don't even remember what my power level was fighting the Wolf.

I do remember initially I was concerned about running out of arrows. Until I realized that they are scattered thru out the battle field.

Are you just burning thru the story and not getting stronger with your character?

[HE1NZ]

Final battle with the wolf is level 350. I went on that level is it was a little difficult, but most of the game is super easy because you're always overleveled. You can overlevel for wolf fight too.

[_oBSOLEte_]

It's not impossible but it's certainly lame and full of nonsensical gimmicks. Most boss battles are just plain bad or bugged out.

- Kjotve going outside of the pit with bugged AI trying to punch another NPC. But if you go outside the pit yourself, you loose.
- Leofrith jumping with its back turned in invicibility frames like all the bugged captains.
- The Builder's attack sending you in the air with an immediate magic ground attack that you cant dodge, even with the wolf skill to avoid damage when rolling.
- Fenrir getting invincibility even during the burrowing animation.
- Hildiran in the bear challenge in a series of arenas so small you'd have the cameras behind the walls half of the time.

Also the laughably bad """climactic""" fight against Odin. Sorry Ubisoft, Dark Forces already did that better twenty years ago, and they didn't have to spam a big "unequip your weapon in the inventory screen to win" message.

[6Taylor4]

Taking on the bosses is always controversial; I did spend a lot of time with Odin, and had to research out of game to "get" it, and it was truly lame, but it did make me laugh.
After that fight, I went back to an earlier save and continued on with the side quests and adventures.

One suggestion, many will not approve of, is the use of a trainer; you can play as a GOD all the time, or simply tweak this and that. I have used trainers in many games to :
1. Get past a crucial story point that I normally would not have the skills to be successful, and therefor could enjoy all the game beyond that choke point.
2. Access areas of a game that aren't essential to the main quest, but require components that I was not skilled at; like a double move, or a combination of actions, or simply being able to defeat any opponent in the game.
3. See everything, play every part of a game I paid for.
4. Take a lot of the grind out of otherwise enjoyable games.
5. get in-game currency.
6. Adjust my skills and stats to a level more suited to my style of play.
7. *never used in other than single player games. I always play solo.

[roba]

Originally posted by Geforce25:

What is is that makes developers think that nearly unwinnable boss battles are fun? They don't even fit with a game like this.

I was truly enjoying the game until I got to Asgard and the Wolf Boss who cannot be beat. Even changing difficulty to "Story" is of no use. It takes 43 hits to defeat the wolf - on EASIEST - two hits kills you. TWO. You can use one health to get it to three hits, and the plants MIGHT get you to four - if you time it right.

But you still have to play a basically PERFECT game - even on EASIEST to get past the brick wall the developers threw in the middle of the game.

Why? Who thinks this is a great idea?

I despise boss fights too, but they are manageable in this game (the story ones). If you have difficulties, just come back later, level up a bit.

As for the Wolf, I fought him around lvl 320 I think, with 6 rations bag and 5 adrenaline bars, on Hard and won on 1st try (and I suck at boss fights, which is why I hate them). Just stay around his rear legs and just bash bash bash dodge bash. Three times during the fight you will get prompt to tie it, but you need to be close. Use you abilities when you are close to it. Attack only when its legs are glowing. When he is underground, jump away when he comes at you. When he does the tornado thing, move as far as possible.

[_oBSOLEte_]

Yup I just downed him on Aesyr first try but I cant believe how bugged this fight is.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1801030054
Audio cues are missing, animations are bonkers, he disappeared two times, and even made Eivor levitate.

Completely half baked, not even playtested, almost parody of Sif from Dark soul.

[lucent]

I didn't know you guys were talking about the boss Fenrir. I was thinking of the Lost Wolf.

p.s.

Well, at least this topic got me to go back to a legendary animal spot on my map. I got to fight three wolves... hehehe

[=Palynzer=]

ROFL, skills issue, git gud.
Replaying on pc, already beaten on ps4.

[M0ntS4intM1chel]

i hate bosses, they are completely off. and for all those who say "oh, it adds so much to the game by forcing you out of your usual playstyle..." Good for YOU, i guess, i say NO thanks.

Major Bosses always block the road and usually force me to re-orient in the game for something completely different. abandon current quest, seek new questline in a different territory.

i mean Elites and minor bosses are manageable from mid-game on, especially since regions and certain questlines are ranked by difficulty, but I have the puppy Wolf abandoned, i have the fire giant abandoned, i walked through ireland like if it's cheesecake because Wrath of the Druids has a level 50 requirement. Then when all was done and the minor bosses where beaten i said, well let's greet everyone a final good bye, grab that spear and return to england finally, but then the keeper of the spear happened, ireland is abandoned now.

I was able to beat 2 out of 3 major bosses in Odissey only by using a glitch - you can snipe some of the cyclopes from a distance without triggering them. I've abandoned Odissey because i haven' surpassed Hades yet...

[RangerSix]

Sounds like you are extremely underleveled. One of the more noticeable flaws of this game is that it's bad at communicating where you should go.

Leave Asgard for later, it's late game content.

[Roaming Zombie]

I don't remember what level I was but I do remember I had no real issues taking him down though. So I also assume you were underleveled for that fight.

[Varg]

I didn't read all the comments but that fight has a bug.
You need to cap the game at 60 fps or the boss will just keep digging forever.

I had the issue as well but found the resolution with Google.

[Rei Johannes]

Originally posted by HE1NZ:

Final battle with the wolf is level 350. I went on that level is it was a little difficult, but most of the game is super easy because you're always overleveled. You can overlevel for wolf fight too.

Really? i didnt know this. I was at level 140 or something when i went against that wolf boss and i beat it. It was challenging but not difficult.

[Hannah Montana]

I don't know what OP is talking about. I left the difficulty at default Drengr and the game is easy. You just have to do the side quests/mysteries, artifacts, and treasures to level up. There are so many opportunities to level up. I have almost maxed out my skill tree and I still have about 3 provinces and the DLC left to complete.