I understand that it was impressive when it was a Doom mod, but..

[grihajedy]

If we abstract, for the average person this is another indie horror with gameplay at the level of Slenderman, where you look for switches... seriously?? The mechanics are also not very smooth, the visuals reject me, but with this everything was better in Turbo Overkill

[Chillin]

its a demo....

[grihajedy]

Originally posted by Chillin:

its a demo....

and what

[SexyPanther]

You have a personal opinion which you are generalizing for "average people," make a comparison to Slenderman without saying what you really mean, and then follow up by comparing a demo for a remake of a Doom mod to Turbo Overkill which has nothing to do with the project despite being made by the same people. What you could have said was:

- I dislike games where I have to locate switches like in Slenderman.
- The mechanics, such as [insert mechanic] could be improved by [suggest something better].
- I dislike the art style and preferred how the graphics looked in Turbo Overkill because [explain what you liked about the graphics in Turbo Overkill].

[Chillin]

Originally posted by grihajedy:

Originally posted by Chillin:

its a demo....

and what

and exactly that, a demo....meaning it's not a final version..dur

[DarkJuda On Deck]

Originally posted by grihajedy:

If we abstract, for the average person this is another indie horror with gameplay at the level of Slenderman, where you look for switches... seriously?? The mechanics are also not very smooth, the visuals reject me, but with this everything was better in Turbo Overkill

There is a reason why Total Chaos is often considered one of the best if not the best DooM 2 mod ever. This is far from being you average indie horror game.

Also, this is not a action horror like Resident Evil, which is what a lot of people expect. This is a horror game with a strong emphasis on survival mechanics.

Comparing with Turbo Overkill, saying everything was "better" in it, doesn't make any sense. Both games are from very different genres, with very different game designs. The only things those two titles share in common are the dev team and the fact they both use a first person camera perspective. It would be like comparing Assassin's Creed and Splinter Cell to say that AC has better climbing mechanics, or like comparing Monster Hunter and Devil May Cry to say MH has better hunting mechanics.
Doesn't make sense. Completely different game designs.

[grihajedy]

Originally posted by DarkJuda On Deck:

Originally posted by grihajedy:

If we abstract, for the average person this is another indie horror with gameplay at the level of Slenderman, where you look for switches... seriously?? The mechanics are also not very smooth, the visuals reject me, but with this everything was better in Turbo Overkill

There is a reason why Total Chaos is often considered one of the best if not the best DooM 2 mod ever. This is far from being you average indie horror game.

Also, this is not a action horror like Resident Evil, which is what a lot of people expect. This is a horror game with a strong emphasis on survival mechanics.

Comparing with Turbo Overkill, saying everything was "better" in it, doesn't make any sense. Both games are from very different genres, with very different game designs. The only things those two titles share in common are the dev team and the fact they both use a first person camera perspective. It would be like comparing Assassin's Creed and Splinter Cell to say that AC has better climbing mechanics, or like comparing Monster Hunter and Devil May Cry to say MH has better hunting mechanics.
Doesn't make sense. Completely different game designs.

In terms of visuals and smooth mechanics, I can compare Assassin and Splinter cell. That's the thing, the game works as a mod, but if you abstract from the context and don't know about it, as a separate game it's an average horror with dull gameplay

[grihajedy]

Originally posted by SexyPanther:

You have a personal opinion which you are generalizing for "average people," make a comparison to Slenderman without saying what you really mean, and then follow up by comparing a demo for a remake of a Doom mod to Turbo Overkill which has nothing to do with the project despite being made by the same people. What you could have said was:

- I dislike games where I have to locate switches like in Slenderman.
- The mechanics, such as [insert mechanic] could be improved by [suggest something better].
- I dislike the art style and preferred how the graphics looked in Turbo Overkill because [explain what you liked about the graphics in Turbo Overkill].

Yes, thank you, you understood me correctly point by point, and yes this is my personal opinion, I think that for a person who is not familiar with the developers and who sees the project for the first time, the game will not differ from dozens of other horrors

[Dwarf_Bastard]

Dota 2 was a warcraft mod. Look at it now. You might hate it as much as you want, but it's a VERY popular game.

[grihajedy]

Originally posted by Dwarf_Bastard:

Dota 2 was a warcraft mod. Look at it now. You might hate it as much as you want, but it's a VERY popular game.

Dota had no analogues in its time, and does popularity correlate with the creative component of the game? no

[Dwarf_Bastard]

Originally posted by grihajedy:

does popularity correlate with the creative component of the game? no

Yes it DOES xD

[grihajedy]

Originally posted by Dwarf_Bastard:

Originally posted by grihajedy:

does popularity correlate with the creative component of the game? no

Yes it DOES xD

Mostly people are junk eaters, alas

[Qhala]

I played this knowing what to expect, to be brutally honest there are similar games like this out there that are better.

A bit janky but I can see what's being attempted here.

[Rannixx]

Originally posted by Qhala:

I played this knowing what to expect, to be brutally honest there are similar games like this out there that are better.

A bit janky but I can see what's being attempted here.

This is honestly the least 'janky' game I've played in a while, and especially for a demo. I can't tell you how many AAA title games I've played lately where it's been an utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This was a breath of fresh air.

[DarkJuda On Deck]

Originally posted by Qhala:

I played this knowing what to expect, to be brutally honest there are similar games like this out there that are better.

A bit janky but I can see what's being attempted here.

Very, very interested to know which other games you have in mind.

[Qhala]

Originally posted by DarkJuda On Deck:

Originally posted by Qhala:

I played this knowing what to expect, to be brutally honest there are similar games like this out there that are better.

A bit janky but I can see what's being attempted here.

Very, very interested to know which other games you have in mind.

Right off the bat? Cry of Fear, one of the best mods to happen in the Half-Life community.