How many people actually sell their RPG maker games?

[Larry the Cacodemon]

Considering the countless RPG maker games that I assume exist, how many are actually able to sell their games? One would assume that for such a game to even stand a chance, it would have to be of extremely high quality. And even then, I bet there are very talanted game makers out there who are willing to release their super good games completely for free.

Are there any actual examples of a commercial rpg maker game that did well?

[Shadow]

Everyone who owns a legit copy of VX Ace is ABLE to sell his/her games I suppose.

You want examples of successful games? RPG maker versions may vary but okay, here is a small list. Most of the games I mention are also here on Steam.

Skyborn

To the Moon

Laxius Force series

Millenium series

Remnants of isolation

Aveyond series

[Benkinz99]

Do you know the youtuber Markiplier? There were a couple RPG maker games made for him by fans. I dont know about any really succesful ones though.

[Larry the Cacodemon]

Originally posted by Dread:

Everyone who owns a legit copy of VX Ace is ABLE to sell his/her games I suppose.

You want examples of successful games? RPG maker versions may vary but okay, here is a small list. Most of the games I mention are also here on Steam.

Skyborn

To the Moon

Laxius Force series

Millenium series

Remnants of isolation

Aveyond series

Are those sold on steam? Might check those out but if there aren't sold for money than that isn't really what I meant.

Because I have heard you can sell your RPG maker games for money legally, I was wondering if anybody has actually been able to do this.

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by hakkarin:

Because I have heard you can sell your RPG maker games for money legally, I was wondering if anybody has actually been able to do this.

Yes, they've been able to do that. To The Moon even has retail copies sold on DVD-ROMs being sold in stores.

[Redweaver_420]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by hakkarin:

Because I have heard you can sell your RPG maker games for money legally, I was wondering if anybody has actually been able to do this.

Yes, they've been able to do that. To The Moon even has retail copies sold on DVD-ROMs being sold in stores.

That's because its a professional quality game from a team with standards.

The hobbyist crowd throwing any piece of garbage at Greenlight should learn this lesson.

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by Redweaver_420:

That's because its a professional quality game from a team with standards.

The hobbyist crowd throwing any piece of garbage at Greenlight should learn this lesson.

Why are you angry at hobbyists? Did they, as a whole insult you? If not, then why are you angry at them? There's no need to have these negative emotions, they didn't do anything against you after all.

[Redweaver_420]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by Redweaver_420:

That's because its a professional quality game from a team with standards.

The hobbyist crowd throwing any piece of garbage at Greenlight should learn this lesson.

Why are you angry at hobbyists? Did they, as a whole insult you? If not, then why are you angry at them? There's no need to have these negative emotions, they didn't do anything against you after all.

Poisoning the marketplace with garbage that seriously reduces my chance of selling a game because people hate RPG Maker games because of the mountains of nonsense that hobbyists didn't have the good sense to release for free or just keep to themselves doesn't effect me?

[Ultaan aka REEJ]

There's a lot of toxicity going on about this topic, but the answer is simple: hard work sells.

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by Redweaver_420:

Poisoning the marketplace with garbage that seriously reduces my chance of selling a game because people hate RPG Maker games because of the mountains of nonsense that hobbyists didn't have the good sense to release for free or just keep to themselves doesn't effect me?

So you are angry at them because you want to sell games yourself and are afraid that nobody will buy your game? Your business endeavor shouldn't be driven by fear. Yes, you may fail, and to be frank, your chances of failing are rather large, considering that on a free market, you're competing with all kinds of products. But what others do still has nothing to do with you. After all, there are RPG Maker games that are being sold rather successfully. And if they sell their games, then what's it to you? Just be glad that someone is buying the games.

[Nebula]

Like most people say, To The Moon.

[Larry the Cacodemon]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by Redweaver_420:

Poisoning the marketplace with garbage that seriously reduces my chance of selling a game because people hate RPG Maker games because of the mountains of nonsense that hobbyists didn't have the good sense to release for free or just keep to themselves doesn't effect me?

So you are angry at them because you want to sell games yourself and are afraid that nobody will buy your game? Your business endeavor shouldn't be driven by fear. Yes, you may fail, and to be frank, your chances of failing are rather large, considering that on a free market, you're competing with all kinds of products. But what others do still has nothing to do with you. After all, there are RPG Maker games that are being sold rather successfully. And if they sell their games, then what's it to you? Just be glad that someone is buying the games.

Have you heard of this thing called the great video game crash?

I would say, it DOES affect others if people decide to destroy consumer faith by flooding the market with crap.

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by hakkarin:

Have you heard of this thing called the great video game crash?

Yes, but don't you think that a possible video game crash would more likely occur due to AAA publishers' behavior and sale strategy? They are the main producer and seller of video games after all. And when people think of video games, their games are often what comes to mind.

Now, I might be talking out of my bum here, but hear me out. We have a different situation today than we had back then. Not only are video games not monopolized by US developers any longer, but engaging in video game development, music, photography, sculpting, painting, film is easier today than it ever was making it hard for one company to be the hub for everything and easier for the market to disperse. Just like everyone can write books without special skills, people can also create video games. The book market doesn't crash, despite a ton of badly written $1 novels, fan fiction, and neither does the music, film, or fine arts industry. In the same sense, I don't think that it will be the small guy that will be responsible for a video game crash. It's more likely to occuer if big companies abuse the trust and wallets of their costumers.

Originally posted by hakkarin:

I would say, it DOES affect others if people decide to destroy consumer faith by flooding the market with crap.

It depends. It makes more sense if you look at it on a global scale. Eversince the post WWII years, Asia has been flooded with cheaply made products, but it didn't harm their economy at all. Quite the contrary, East and Southeast Asia are very popular locations for business ventures nowadays, despite that.

At the same time, cheap and pirated products from Asia did not affect the big companies all too much. People in Asia who are able to afford more expensive products buy those, while the other ones buy the less expensive stuff.

What it boils down to, however, is that neither you nor me nor anyone has the right to tell others what they should and should not sell. Ultimately, all you can do is learn about your own limitations and within those, work hard to make a high quality product.

Talking down on your competitors like what is happening here is not the right way to go. Would you buy a game from someone who talks like that? No, of course not. It only reflects badly on them and they are hurting their own enterprise with that.

[Redweaver_420]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by Redweaver_420:

Poisoning the marketplace with garbage that seriously reduces my chance of selling a game because people hate RPG Maker games because of the mountains of nonsense that hobbyists didn't have the good sense to release for free or just keep to themselves doesn't effect me?

So you are angry at them because you want to sell games yourself and are afraid that nobody will buy your game? Your business endeavor shouldn't be driven by fear. Yes, you may fail, and to be frank, your chances of failing are rather large, considering that on a free market, you're competing with all kinds of products. But what others do still has nothing to do with you. After all, there are RPG Maker games that are being sold rather successfully. And if they sell their games, then what's it to you? Just be glad that someone is buying the games.

You genuinely don't get it. The reply you gave hakkarin proves that.

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by Redweaver_420:

You genuinely don't get it. The reply you gave hakkarin proves that.

I do, but you don't understand that you cannot influence other people's behavior. Just because you get angry and start pouting doesn't mean that others will change the way they behave.

[Larry the Cacodemon]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by Redweaver_420:

You genuinely don't get it. The reply you gave hakkarin proves that.

I do, but you don't understand that you cannot influence other people's behavior. Just because you get angry and start pouting doesn't mean that others will change the way they behave.

Wrong. There exists countless examples of other changing their behaviour as a result of others being angry. In fact, I would argue that it's actually become a massive problem in today's society because it allows a loud minority to dominate society.