Farming Simulator 2013

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Dystroxic 2012 年 10 月 26 日 上午 12:15
Fertilizer vs. Sprayer vs. Manure vs. Slurry
I'm kind of confused about the differences between these four things. Do they all have the same function (increasing the crop yield)? What is each for?

Thanks!
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shoopy 2013 年 6 月 12 日 上午 7:42 
That sower does cultivate but you don't actually see it except maybe for a slight color change. It doesn't grind the stuff under but it still counts as cultivated.

You can even use it over straw and the straw will still be there, and the crop will magically grow right up through it.

I don't know if it works on the front though, maybe it does but I can't confirm since I always rear mount it. I do know that a spreader works on the front, and that it doesn't matter if you spread before or after the crop is planted.
SpookyMulderFBI 2013 年 6 月 12 日 上午 8:12 
DUDE. good call. i was doing it at night in real time and i didn't know what was going on. daylight reveals that IT ONLY WORKS REAR-MOUNTED and i wasted quite a bit of time during the night. i'm going to just switch the spreader to the front. apparently i should try things before posting them. good call though.

引用自 ardiel
That sower does cultivate but you don't actually see it except maybe for a slight color change. It doesn't grind the stuff under but it still counts as cultivated.

You can even use it over straw and the straw will still be there, and the crop will magically grow right up through it.

I don't know if it works on the front though, maybe it does but I can't confirm since I always rear mount it. I do know that a spreader works on the front, and that it doesn't matter if you spread before or after the crop is planted.
rmckinney 2013 年 6 月 12 日 下午 7:05 
I always fertilized with slurry because it was free. I had a game on the Central Kansas map and decided to install the Placable Manure and Slurry selling mod. I decided to conduct a test and sell the amount of slurry that I would normally use to fertilize with.

I received just under 8,000.00 for the slurry. I then used a liquid sprayer to fertilizer the same fields and the fertilizer cost about 1,850.00. I never used slurry or manure to fertilize with again.
MiKye200 2013 年 9 月 27 日 上午 6:26 
引用自 Speak english FFS
1. There are no difference at all between fertilizer sprayer / sprayer.
2. Doesnt mather what sort you thing to your field. All give same bonus (double i think) but doing for example manure + spraying WONT give you a double of the double. (Until next patch)

Well, this is rather disappointing.
I was hoping that all these different fertilizers and sprays had differing effects and bonuses.
If they all do the same thing then much of the simulation loses all point.
I hope that the developers add some complexity to the simulation in future versions.
e.g.
Manure used on the ground before cultivating.
Sprays to reduce damage by pests.


Did this "next patch" you speak of layer fertilizer bonuses?
最后由 MiKye200 编辑于; 2013 年 9 月 27 日 上午 6:27
Chow 2013 年 9 月 27 日 上午 9:00 
They all do the same thing but as mentioned before, sprayer and fertilizer spreaders cost you each time you fill up whereas solid manure and slurry are a by-product of having cows so it is essentially "free" fertilizer. Using regular fertilizer/sprayer is more convenient to use than manure or slurry (less time involved applying the fertilizer to your field).

Having many cows, I use slurry primarily for fertilizing and sell the manure with the manure sell point. Manure is the most labor intensive method to fertilizing your field so I opt to spray slurry. I also only use slurry in fields that are close by to the slurry tank(s).

But basically you use the fertilizer that best suits your situation. Of course everything has a cost associated with it but It's just a matter of options for you as a farmer to choose.
最后由 Chow 编辑于; 2013 年 9 月 27 日 上午 9:15
westamesburyfarms 2013 年 9 月 27 日 上午 11:23 
I use trailed sprayer purely because it has a large capacity and is 40m wide.
Pale SugarBalls 2013 年 9 月 27 日 下午 3:38 
So whats the best time to spray your fields?
Maiteria 2013 年 9 月 27 日 下午 4:01 
Doesn't seem like there's a best time to spray/fertilize the fields.
You can even do it prior to sowing anything on the fields, they seem to stay fertilized until they get harvested.
Sirrus 2013 年 9 月 27 日 下午 10:39 
Best time to spray fields is when you have time.

Speaking of different types of implements, I pick up three of four types of fertilizing implements, fully ignoring sprayers. Reasons: they use same amount of money as fertilizer spreaders to refill them, yet they need to be unfolded/folded and there is little gain of just 4 meters of width over spreaders, besides, they are more expensive themselves.

From available pellets fertilizers I choose AMAZONE ZA-M 1501. It is light (even Argon can carry it), compact, give wide coverage (36m), so all starting fields can be fertilized in 2-4 passes, and, what's important for beginner, rather inexpensive, available even for early purchase, even prior harvesting first field.

I don't find too many differences among manure spreaders, so prior Ursus DLC I picked up bigger Bergmann and used it to fertilize fields that are close to pasture (relativelyl I used to fertilize even fields surrounding farm:)). Manure spreaders have three problems - consumption rate is very high, their volume for such rate is rather low, and coverage area is narrow. That means you have to return and refill them frequently. And, if you don't have or don't like Lizard (as I do), you'll have to perform 5 loads with ordinary silage/manure forks. It's not that difficult, I even began to like it, but for "powergaming" it's not an option - too tedious.
Of course you can empty manure silo with abovementioned fork right near silo, I guess there is nothing blocking manure loss. I, however, prefer to use it. Greenhouses may also be good dropping points, even if not user-friendly ones. They are not powergaming too, but I just like tomatoes. :)
However, there is a trick. If you don't want to deal with dry manure - don't feed your cows with straw.

Of whole two slurry tanks available, I use Kotte GARANT VTL 19.500, it's bigger, and, when unfolded, allows wider spreading. Yes, it requires unfolding/folding, but it happens rather fast, slurry is free, and consumption rate is adequate. So why not?
MiKye200 2013 年 9 月 27 日 下午 11:03 
I hope the developers expand on this aspect of the sim.

Maybe add a PH to soil quality and type, to make for more variation in what is the best crop choice in different climates and regions; along with pests for the different crop types and regions.

Manure before cultivation to condition the soil with roughage and nutrients for long-term benefit. Worms love it :)
Slurry for a quick nitrogen fix with some soil conditioning and long-term benefits, similar to manure.

Add crop-rotations as necessary for healthy crops.
etc.

There are many ways to enrich gameplay here.
最后由 MiKye200 编辑于; 2013 年 9 月 27 日 下午 11:09
Sirrus 2013 年 9 月 28 日 下午 1:24 
Actually this is very dangerous path, when relaxing game is "improved" by more complicated mechanics, and this change is irreversible and inevitable. Some games are awesome as they are, and trying to turn them into hardcore simulator may ruin them. It's like old argument, that Colin McRae Rally should be made more realistic. We have Richard Burns Rally, how many people are able to play this game casually?
On the other hand, if change is optional, and unnecessary, then I have no problems with it.

Generally speaking, current game allows you to simulate most of activities you offered (except pests, but you can imagine that spraying actually works like insecticide). Yes, there is no reward, but, for example, I do crop rotation, not only because I think it is correct, but for practical reason - I keep my silos full with all crops evenly.

I would really like different model of handling grass, as simple as ability to cultivate soil, without necessary plowing, or restoring field within former boundaries with plowing (not that I have OCD, but vehicles wobble too much for "autosteerable":)), or as complicated as having multiple types of grass, like Lupinus, Clover, Alfalfa, or even Beans, to use them for silaging with different yield, and as green manure, dramatically increasing next harvest.

But, would I want that to be mandatory? Nope. Only optional. Some people may play this game only to relax, they don't need anything complicated, they want one big button "DO COOL NOW".
KouDy 2013 年 10 月 29 日 下午 1:32 
You can make such improvement as part of the difficulty settings (new menu which will offer you mentioned above and on/off switch)

Still there is one thing that i don't know. Fertilizer and sprayer is the same thing as it was mentioned several times.
If you apply both (you fertilize first and spray after) will it yield double of double?
Maverick 2013 年 10 月 29 日 下午 2:20 
引用自 Sirrus
Actually this is very dangerous path, when relaxing game is "improved" by more complicated mechanics, and this change is irreversible and inevitable.
Making the fertilisers have different roles would make no difference to "difficulty". Applying purpose to the different fertiliser types is a different matter.

tbh, it's quite stupid having slurry and manure so much more difficult to use with no added benefits. Why bother? The cost difference is neglible versus application time.

IF, and I say IF, they introduced some *truth* into field degradation and diminishing crop yields from constant use of synthetic fertilisers it would suddenly become important to use the more "difficult" method. I agree it should remain a choice thing - they already have difficulty modes, so no biggy there.

But keeping it stupidly simple for *non-realistic* (read "can't-be-bothered") players denies those that actually want a simulator that err... cough.... simulates.
最后由 Maverick 编辑于; 2013 年 10 月 29 日 下午 2:23
Solo Leveling 2015 年 8 月 2 日 下午 10:44 
I know that this is an old post,but I just started playing FS2013 and my blue Manure tank
that I have at my farm is empty, I have been looking all over the net on how to refill it
and have found no answer.
Any one here that could help me with this, just to re-fill it back up or is it no possible to
re-fill it again?

The Manure tank I am talking about is sitting across were you sale your bales.
最后由 Solo Leveling 编辑于; 2015 年 8 月 2 日 下午 10:45
ZanyScum 2015 年 8 月 7 日 上午 7:28 
Do you have cows at all?
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