DX9 vs DX11 performance

[JayMJay]

After playing Far Cry 3 entirely in DX11, I decided to see if Dx9 would grant me better Performance.

I have an i5-4690k and an Overclocked 750 Ti.

I ran Both the DX9 and Dx11 Versions at the exact Ultra Settings no MSAA at 1080p, with SSAO and alpha coverage at enhanced.

I loaded up the exat same game save and did not touch the controls so i can get readings of the exact same scenario.

DX9: 85FPS

DX11:71.5FPS

So Dx9 is more optimized than DX11, however some sources say that the DX11 Uses prettier shaders.

What do you guys think?

[-=SOF=-WID99]

what i think is ... you need a better GPU a GTX 750 ti is a not a high end GPU ..its priced at less $130

with a 4690 K you should at least upgrade to a GTX 960 or AMD R 9 380 for decent DX 11 performance @ 1080 P

[JayMJay]

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:

what i think is ... you need a better GPU a GTX 750 ti is a not a high end GPU ..its priced at less $130

with a 4690 K you should at least upgrade to a GTX 960 or AMD R 9 380 for decent DX 11 performance @ 1080 P

This topic is about the Comparison between Dx11 and DX9 not how nice my GPU is. Honestly..

[..:: eeZee ::..]

Originally posted by JMJ95:

DX9: 85FPS

DX11:71.5FPS

So Dx9 is more optimized than DX11, however some sources say that the DX11 Uses prettier shaders.

What do you guys think?

I think you've got pretty decent FPS with both.

I don't know if the shaders are prettier, I've played FC3 only with DX11. Never felt the need to compare.

However, I wouldn't say DX9 is more optimized, it's more like DX11 simply asks more from a setup. But, it seems to me, that's not a huge issue for your system. Both perform well above 60 FPS.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

DX 11 will tax a vid chip more and provide better detail in high resolutions ..whats your point again with a cheap low end Nvidia GPU ?

i bought a EVGA overclocked gtx 750 ti

my next GPU ..a factory overclocked R 9 270X got better farme rates

then i bought Strix GTX 960

wso if your looking for some one to say your entry level DX 11 vid card kicks ass .. your talking to the wrong person

[JayMJay]

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:

DX 11 will tax a vid chip more and provide better detail in high resolutions ..whats your point again with a cheap low end Nvidia GPU ?

My Point is that Dx9 Provides higher Framerates than Dx11 at the same settings.

GTFO with your elitism, people like you stain the PC community with attitudes like that.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

dude a GTX 750 Ti = a weak GPU for modern games @ 1080 P

drop your res 720 P

its not elitism .. its truth go look up some benchmarks will ya ?

here look how your GTX 750 ti handles FarCry 4 .. a game from 2014 FFS

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/01/07/far_cry_4_video_card_performance_review/8#.V1NcQpErIdU

Now we come to the cheapest cards in this evaluation, the GTX 750 Ti and Radeon R7 260X. The GTX 750 Ti is based on first generation Maxwell, and 260X is based on newer GCN than 290X or 290. However, even those architecture changes can't save these for performance. Neither one was able to play well at 1080p with any decent quality settings. To make either one playable at 1080p you'd have to play at "Low" settings, and turn off AO. Basically, it makes the game look like crap.

Our only option was to drop the resolution to 720p, 1280x720. At this resolution we could raise the settings quite a bit, providing a better image quality in the game. We were able to set both to "Very High" settings, which is just one step down from "Ultra" quality. So even at 720p, these still cannot maximize image quality in the game, we still have to sacrifice some level of image quality. Also, no Godrays. So these video cards are very slow for this game despite these having newer architectures. These cards just can't cut it.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

far cry 3 uses the same game engine .. tho a less tweaked one from FarCry 4 due to the added Nvidia game works options and other AA and AO video options


an yes Direct X 9 games are less demanding then Direct X 11 ? ..DUH

[-=SOF=-WID99]

direct X 9 came out with Windows XP for gods sake

Direct X 11 started with Windows 7

Microsoft Vista was only Direct X 10

so yes DUH DX 9 will yeild a faster frame rate with the engine since its no pushing the limits of AA and AO ..to you it may look the same .. till ya try it in a higher res

my point was with your Decent CPU you should get a good GPU to pair with it ..hell i get better FPS then you posted on my old system in DX 11 mode and i only have an old core 2 quad Q 9650 CPU ..and old DDR 2 ram ..and yes a GTX 960

it also may help your frame rate if you install razer cortex

as yes that software does help boost your FPS with this games engine

[..:: eeZee ::..]

Originally posted by JMJ95:

My Point is that Dx9 Provides higher Framerates than Dx11 at the same settings.

I wouldn't expect anything different, DX9 can't do what DX11 does.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

try razer cortex ..if your not happy with the way the game performs

runs fine here in DX 11 mode even with my old ass core 2 quad Q 9650

they included DX 9 mode since at the time this game shipped many were still useing Windows XP ..not windows 7

in 2012 when FarCry 3 shipped not many users had made the move to windows 7 yet and i am sure they started developing the game 2 yrs in advance of it release they did not predict direct X 12 and windows 10 as well as the full DX 11 support that microsoft has provided via windows updates to the Direct X 11 platform ..as well as Driver support from the GPU makers

BOTTOM LINE A GTX 750 ti is an entry level Video card in 2015 and 2016 ..dont get mad bro i buy vid cards all the time .. yes upgradeing = part of PC gameing ..get used to it .. i started out with a 512 k vid card years ago ,,it had the option to put in a wopping 2 megabyte of Vram ..been thru the entire voodoo series the ati X series .. the nvidia's cards since a TNT with 8 and 16 meg o ram

[JayMJay]

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:

try razer cortex ..if your not happy with the way the game performs

runs fine here in DX 11 mode even with my old ass core 2 quad Q 9650

they included DX 9 mode since at the time this game shipped many were still useing Windows XP ..not windows 7

in 2012 when FarCry 3 shipped not many users had made the move to windows 7 yet and i am sure they started developing the game 2 yrs in advance of it release they did not predict direct X 12 and windows 10 as well as the full DX 11 support that microsoft has provided via windows updates to the Direct X 11 platform ..as well as Driver support from the GPU makers

BOTTOM LINE A GTX 750 ti is an entry level Video card in 2015 and 2016 ..dont get mad bro i buy vid cards all the time .. yes upgradeing = part of PC gameing ..get used to it .. i started out with a 512 k vid card years ago ,,it had the option to put in a wopping 2 megabyte of Vram ..been thru the entire voodoo series the ati X series .. the nvidia's cards since a TNT with 8 and 16 meg o ram

I got in 2014, Im eying for the RX 480, or until the warranty runs out in november. Its more powerful than a PS4 at least.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

yea look at the GTX 1060 too before you buy .. once it ships ...even a GTX 950 is a step up from your 750 ti

but only a small one ..the 1060 from what i read on paper will be a decent GPU ..hopefully Nvidia will price it right below the AMD RX 480

plus GTX 970's will be showing up cheap .. to clear out old stock once the 1070's ship

[Gadmt_]

the dx11 renderer in this game could be a wrapper or something

[Karma]

I've played FC3 maxxed on both DX 9 and 11.....the only REALLY noticeable feature is the draw distance clarity. I felt as if the differences were very limited and only noticeable if you're actually looking for them. I run FC3 at about 70fps on dx9, and about 50fps on dx11 on a 660GTX. And while i may be feeding into WID99's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about vid cards, take note that i have 2 kids and little funding for new vid cards. I'm simply stating what i believe is the little difference between the rederers in this game.

[JayMJay]

Originally posted by Karma:

I've played FC3 maxxed on both DX 9 and 11.....the only REALLY noticeable feature is the draw distance clarity. I felt as if the differences were very limited and only noticeable if you're actually looking for them. I run FC3 at about 70fps on dx9, and about 50fps on dx11 on a 660GTX. And while i may be feeding into WID99's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about vid cards, take note that i have 2 kids and little funding for new vid cards. I'm simply stating what i believe is the little difference between the rederers in this game.

If you say you have little funding for a new video card, then i suggest to save up for AMD's new Polaris cards which will offer Crazy performance/$$$ ratios.

I too am hard pressed to tell a difference in quality between DX9 and DX11. for some reason, the clouds in the Dx9 are large and puffy like, while the clouds in DX11 and long and thin like ribs.