Reason to Upgrade Hammer past Level 4 or 5?

[Geredis]

I've finally gotten to the point with the hammer where I can pretty much one-shot all bolts I come across, and I've upgraded my hammer to I think level 4, and bought the level 5 blueprint. Now, it also feels kind of on the ridiculously fast side already as well, so is there actually any reason (say, new targets or the like) where additional hammer damage is actually useful? Further, with the spacing of the bolts on various panels, it feels like there's no practical way to go any faster with the hammer anyway since at this point it takes me almost as long to go from bolt quad to bolt quad as it does for me to get ready for another hammer.

I suppose maybe the extra speed might be useful when bonking things out of position, especially the girders. But aside from that one particular use case, does it actually make sense to go any faster than level 4 or maybe 5 with the hammer?

As a side note, for the torch and saw, I've certainly noticed the upgrades with both of those, but it also feels like there's still a tangible reason to upgrade those given how slow the saw starts and how fickle the torch can be when tracing your cutting line.

[80spurpledude]

LvL 5 Hammer on a Class 3 ship takes 6 hits per bolt. Thats why you upgrade past 5. A LvL 9 hammer on a Class 3 ship , takes 2 swings per. 4 bolts.

[Pesky]

Wait. The class of the ship changes how effectve a hammer is ? Okay, that explains something I thought was a huge bug.

[Spaznetz]

引用自 Pesky：

Wait. The class of the ship changes how effectve a hammer is ? Okay, that explains something I thought was a huge bug.

All the tools are like that. 3 levels of ships and you need upgraded tools to be effective on the more difficult ships. Non-upgraded tools still work, but they take FOREVER to get the job done.

[Pesky]

I hadn't guessed that at all. I took the boats in order and it never occurred to me that their tier mattered. You explained why I thought my tools had failed. Thanks.

[Cyberdyne]

Pretty silly really. Your tools suddenly become crap against the same kinda surface just because of ship class. Should have some other kind of tools instead.

[Nina]

引用自 Cyberdyne：

Pretty silly really. Your tools suddenly become crap against the same kinda surface just because of ship class. Should have some other kind of tools instead.

maybe the higher tier ship is newer and so not as much metal fatigue. or higher quality materials used? maybe thicker materials.

[MavenACTG]

引用自 Spaznetz：

Non-upgraded tools still work, but they take FOREVER to get the job done.

And a streamer will make a YouTube video with the headline "Can I disassemble the largest ship with no tools upgraded?!"

引用自 Cyberdyne：

Pretty silly really. Your tools suddenly become crap against the same kinda surface just because of ship class. Should have some other kind of tools instead.

It's a game. Get over it.

[Geredis]

引用自 80spurpledude：

LvL 5 Hammer on a Class 3 ship takes 6 hits per bolt. Thats why you upgrade past 5. A LvL 9 hammer on a Class 3 ship , takes 2 swings per. 4 bolts.

Thank you for that. When I looked at the ship difficulties, I thought that it was simply the relative difficult/complexity of dismantling - obviously a bulkhead section is easier than the stern of a hulk, which will be harder than a whole ship in terms of the complexity. I hadn't realized that material quality also upgraded as things went on. In that case it definitely makes sense.

[MavenACTG]

Some things aren't clear until you experience them. Tier 3 ships also add Winches for pulling down the sides, but it seems like something I and others can miss unless you notice them and explore a bit.

There is some complexity involved in the higher-class ships but nothing too extreme. Just more materials and higher-paying contracts that will help you max out your tools, although I am finding myself extremely tight on cash even when completing everything.

Prioritize upgrading your hammer and saw. The torch is used a fraction of the time compared to the others.

[NoahBlueRidge]

As the others have said, when it comes to tool upgrades, Hammer and Saw should always be first-in-line for upgrading because they are used the most. Upgrading the crate should come next as you can pick up more scrap before needing to 'toss' to the truck, so you fill your 'truck' up faster and generally go faster breaking a ship down.

Upgrading gloves lets you pick up so far up to 3 items at a time and up how fast you pick up materials, so getting them to level 5 is worth it, but only after you've upgraded your Hammer and Saw significantly. Torch is primarily only used when you've already parted out most of the ship and its getting time to crane-lift sections of the hull, so to me its not worth taking past level 5.

[Tidgy]

for me, hammer, crate, gloves then saw as you can drop alot of the ship frames without needing sawing, which saves a whole load of time

[dimm_ddr]

引用自 MavenACTG：

It's a game. Get over it.

Yep, but it was more logical in the Ship Gravetyard Simulator 1. They did have different materials that required different levels of tools.

[MavenACTG]

引用自 dimm_ddr：

引用自 MavenACTG：

It's a game. Get over it.

Yep, but it was more logical in the Ship Gravetyard Simulator 1. They did have different materials that required different levels of tools.

The bar for logical / realism is so low here that the concerns you are raising are microscopic compared to the other game's issues.

[dimm_ddr]

引用自 MavenACTG：

The bar for logical / realism is so low here that the concerns you are raising are microscopic compared to the other game's issues.

You completely miss the point. Thing is: SGS 2 has less mechanics than SGS 1 made by the same developers.