Portal 2 is 50000 years after Portal

[Dawnshepherd]

The span of time between Portal and Portal 2 is revealed to be at least 50,000 years in The Final Hours of Portal 2.

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BradBENP eredeti hozzászólása:

Chell would have died.

Stasis.

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Big Greasy Mucinex eredeti hozzászólása:

BradBENP eredeti hozzászólása:

Chell would have died.

Stasis.

right now there are 3 factions for the humans. Apature, Black mesa, and whoever G-man works for. from what we've seen the humans in the HL univers are advanced, but not massively advanced. there is nothing suggesting that they can suspent the ageing process. only the G-man faction at this point would be able to do that. even so, 50000 years is a massive streach for suspending the aging process.

[Rockhead Gaz]

We know for certain, as it's been stated by Valve, that several centuries elapsed between the events of the two games, so the 50000 years answer is possibly accurate. Look at the plant growth and decay in the Aperture labs in Portal 2, there's certainly more than just a few years passed. Whether the place would still be standing at all after 50000 years is debatable, but bear in mind it's been relatively untouched during that time, so it's possible. Also, Chell is in stasis between the two games, hence the reason she didn't die.

As for Gordon's age, assuming stasis means being placed outside of the progression of time, then I would have to surmise that he remains 27. He is only older if time is viewed as a linear occurence, but seeing as he has existed outside of linear time progression, and it's generally accepted that stasis pauses all chemical and physical processes, he is, for all intents and purposes, in the _exact_ same state as he was when he was placed in stasis.

[DARBOID]

I suppose that could all work. As far as Gordon, that's like me being locked in a stasis tube and comming out ten years later saying I'm still seventeen. however, I was still born twenty seven years ago. You said that valve stated that it was several centuries. Where did they state this? I'm actually a little curious now.

[Rockhead Gaz]

Had a quick look there. I'm pretty sure in an interview about the game Erik Wolpaw, one of the game's writers, made reference to a few centuries having passed. Can't seem to find it though. Of course, I might be wrong on that, so if anyone can shed any light on it, would be appreciated.

I know what you mean about the age thing, but it's still dependant on time following a linear progression. On paper, upon his return, from his date of birth to the date in which the game takes placed, he's aged. But he's existed in a state where those rules of time progression don't apply. Therefore he can't be said to have existed at all during that time. Physically, he hasn't aged, and neither his mind nor body have experienced the passage of time in the sense that would generally cause one to age. I concede, though, that to take age purely as a number, from the date one is born to the present, then yes, in that sense, he's aged. His drivers licence would reflect that, for example. But in every sense, physical and otherwise, he's still a 27 year old man.

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Rockhead Gaz eredeti hozzászólása:

Had a quick look there. I'm pretty sure in an interview about the game Erik Wolpaw, one of the game's writers, made reference to a few centuries having passed. Can't seem to find it though. Of course, I might be wrong on that, so if anyone can shed any light on it, would be appreciated.

I know what you mean about the age thing, but it's still dependant on time following a linear progression. On paper, upon his return, from his date of birth to the date in which the game takes placed, he's aged. But he's existed in a state where those rules of time progression don't apply. Therefore he can't be said to have existed at all during that time. Physically, he hasn't aged, and neither his mind nor body have experienced the passage of time in the sense that would generally cause one to age. I concede, though, that to take age purely as a number, from the date one is born to the present, then yes, in that sense, he's aged. His drivers licence would reflect that, for example. But in every sense, physical and otherwise, he's still a 27 year old man.

hmm, as you know what I mean, I too see what you're saying. I suppose it all comes down to how one defines aging. If ones physiology is prevented from progressing and they are in a state of unconsciousness at the same time, then it stands to reason the one could have "not aged". (both theoretically and on papper)

[Velvet]

I think stasis substantially slows down the aging process, but doesn't eliminate it entirely. Think of it how your ipod or phone is still technically "on" in standby when it's locked or asleep, the battery life still drains though, just at a slower rate.

Your brain still needs function or it turns to mush, and even if it gets the minimal amount of function for chell to be up and kicking, alive and aware when she wakes, I don't think stasis can preserve a brain and body for 50,000 years.

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Detective Dog eredeti hozzászólása:

I think stasis substantially slows down the aging process, but doesn't eliminate it entirely. Think of it how your ipod or phone is still technically "on" in standby when it's locked or asleep, the battery life still drains though, just at a slower rate.

Your brain still needs function or it turns to mush, and even if it gets the minimal amount of function for chell to be up and kicking, alive and aware when she wakes, I don't think stasis can preserve a brain and body for 50,000 years.

You rais a valid point. but Gaben could say it was a million and that they could sustain someone fot that long. Writers can make the sky turn pink if they wanted. doesn't matter if it could or couldn't actually happen.

[Dawnshepherd]

BradBENP eredeti hozzászólása:

Portal 2 can't have taken place 50,000 years after Portal... Chell would have died. and the fact that gordon was in stasis doesn't matter he would still have been 40-60 years ago (as in prior to HL2)

But she were in STASIS, Like gordon, In Black Mesa he was 27, And when in HL2,Eli say that Gordon look like he never grow

[Velvet]

You rais a valid point. but Gaben could say it was a million and that they could sustain someone fot that long. Writers can make the sky turn pink if they wanted. doesn't matter if it could or couldn't actually happen.

Although true, the writers could (and pretty much did) bend reality to their will for the sake of the story, sci-fi is still part science. There is a limit to stasis for someone to feel and perform that well after so long a sleep. Chell just jumped right into action and took the tunneling like a pro.

One other thing to consider is that yes, Valve did say it is this long in the future somewhere, but they also hinted the presence of G-Man while speaking of this too. Why would G-Man be here after so long after the events of half life? Not everything valve says should be taken for gospel truth when considering these things.

[Amy_Aimée]

Dawnshepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

The span of time between Portal and Portal 2 is revealed to be at least 50,000 years in The Final Hours of Portal 2.

this is true, "Fifty thousand years is a lot of time to think. About me. About you. We were doing so well together." this is an unused quote by GLaDOS Source: http://theportalwiki.com/wiki/GLaDOS_voice_lines#Chapter_1:_GLaDOS_Awakening

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Dank Ant Lorry eredeti hozzászólása:

Dawnshepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

The span of time between Portal and Portal 2 is revealed to be at least 50,000 years in The Final Hours of Portal 2.

this is true, "Fifty thousand years is a lot of time to think. About me. About you. We were doing so well together." this is an unused quote by GLaDOS Source: http://theportalwiki.com/wiki/GLaDOS_voice_lines#Chapter_1:_GLaDOS_Awakening

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Dimethyl_Tea eredeti hozzászólása:

Portal 2 can't have taken place 50,000 years after Portal... Chell would have died. and the fact that gordon was in stasis doesn't matter he would still have been 40-60 years ago (as in prior to HL2)

Gordon isn't in Portal 2.

[Walta Gaming]

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