TAIMANIN RPG Extasy
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TAIMANIN RPG Extasy

萨多卡 Nov 3, 2023 @ 9:42am
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It is not recommended to spend money on in-app purchases anymore, Because the future prospects of this game are worrying (I suspect it may be discontinued by the end of 2024).
In view of the recent official statement and the recent revenue situation of "TAIMANIN RPG Extasy", it is not recommended for everyone to continue spending money on it (I personally spent about $120, but have already quit the game).

Because “TAIMANIN RPG Extasy” has greatly reduced player benefits, a large number of core players have quit in the early stages (the two Taimanin groups I joined had a total of about 720 people, and as of 6 pm on November 3rd, over 40% of players have already quit). The current revenue of this game is struggling, and it can be said that this distributor is performing the worst in recent years! The revenue on the Johren platform was almost halved starting from November 2nd, and the number of online players on Steam is also within the range of 300-500 (Even for the "Action Taimanin" that has been on sale for many years, the number of players online on Steam remains between 800 and 2000. I am not optimistic about the future of "Action Taimanin" because it is an old game, and its gameplay and systems are slightly outdated. However, I want to thank it for the joy it once brought me).

If the agent cannot come up with any effective measures, this game will follow the same pattern as most johren-agented games, harvesting existing players and then being taken down. According to the usual practice of this agent, relevant news is expected to be released in about a year.And to be honest, with the current benefits of the game, it is quite difficult for new players to develop a team of characters without spending money. Not to mention the veteran players who are burdened with loans.

If you want to support this game, it is recommended to play on the Japanese server (the gem consumption for gacha in the Japanese server is 1/10 of the international server, and stamina recovery and accompanying features are also more user-friendly!).
Last edited by 萨多卡; Nov 5, 2023 @ 4:46am
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萨多卡 Nov 3, 2023 @ 9:49am 
I feel very sorry (especially for the $120 I invested in it).
Dreamer Nov 3, 2023 @ 9:59am 
Why do you think Action Taimanin is shutting down?
Oguri Cap Nov 3, 2023 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Dreamer:
Why do you think Action Taimanin is shutting down?
x2, I also want to know
💙💛💗 Nov 3, 2023 @ 11:08am 
I think he says that because Battle Arena announced shutting down services this week. Either way, all gacha that isn't mainstream shuts down after x years of service, nothing new. Just people need to know that, but yeah I can see an argument why AT being as old as it is may shut down sooner rather than later.
jasiqueiraneto Nov 3, 2023 @ 11:42am 
Tower is not enabled, Arena and Guild as been disabled

They clearly should have not have made these changes exclusively to Global, the debt system was the final straw for many, it's kinda screw over the possible fanbase
jasiqueiraneto Nov 3, 2023 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Frieren:
Originally posted by Dreamer:
Why do you think Action Taimanin is shutting down?
x2, I also want to know
I think that it's because of the revenue not being very high, if I remember correct they even already merged the JP and Global to cut cost
萨多卡 Nov 3, 2023 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Dreamer:
Why do you think Action Taimanin is shutting down?
Because Action Taimanin closed its Japanese server in 21, there is currently only the international server remaining. At that time, the issue was discussed on Japanese forums, and the reasons almost all pointed to cost-saving measures as a last resort. Over these past two years, I have also been observing that the concurrent player count for this game on Steam has indeed been slowly decreasing (around 1500-2500 people in April of 22, now around 1200-1800 people).
Regarding this point, I have also found some issues with my English expression. (I want to convey that it is extremely difficult and there is a risk of being forced to surrender.)
萨多卡 Nov 3, 2023 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by Frieren:
Originally posted by Dreamer:
Why do you think Action Taimanin is shutting down?
x2, I also want to know
Because Action Taimanin closed its Japanese server in 21, there is currently only the international server remaining. At that time, the issue was discussed on Japanese forums, and the reasons almost all pointed to cost-saving measures as a last resort. Over these past two years, I have also been observing that the concurrent player count for this game on Steam has indeed been slowly decreasing (around 1500-2500 people in April of 22, now around 1200-1800 people).
Regarding this point, I have also found some issues with my English expression. (I want to convey that it is extremely difficult and there is a risk of being forced to surrender.)
Deathraven13 Nov 3, 2023 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by 小学:
In view of the recent official statement and the recent revenue situation of "TAIMANIN RPG Extasy", it is not recommended for everyone to continue spending money on it (I personally spent about $120, but have already quit the game).

Because this game has greatly reduced player benefits, a large number of core players have quit in the early stages (the two Taimanin groups I joined had a total of about 720 people, and as of 6 pm on November 3rd, over 40% of players have already quit). The current revenue of this game is struggling, and it can be said that this distributor is performing the worst in recent years! The revenue on the Johren platform was almost halved starting from November 2nd, and the number of online players on Steam is also within the range of 300-500 (even for "Action Taimanin" which is close to shutting down, there are still between 800-2000 players online at the same time).

If the agent cannot come up with any effective measures, this game will follow the same pattern as most johren-agented games, harvesting existing players and then being taken down. According to the usual practice of this agent, relevant news is expected to be released in about a year.And to be honest, with the current benefits of the game, it is quite difficult for new players to develop a team of characters without spending money. Not to mention the veteran players who are burdened with loans.

If you want to support this game, it is recommended to play on the Japanese server (the gem consumption for gacha in the Japanese server is 1/10 of the international server, and stamina recovery and accompanying features are also more user-friendly!).

I understand that you are mad but lying won't help you, so let's see some proofs and facts:

- Action Taimanin earn 200 000$ to 400 000$ MONTHLY so have 300-500 players on steam doesn't matter if the game make a profit AND there is a mobile version, so AT won't shut down if it make a profit.

- Quoting you: "(even for "Action Taimanin" which is close to shutting down, there are still between 800-2000 players online at the same time)." Where is your proof of that ?

- Quoting you: "The revenue on the Johren platform was almost halved starting from November 2nd" Where's your proof of that and how does that even affect RPGX ?

Quoting you: "If you want to support this game, it is recommended to play on the Japanese server (the gem consumption for gacha in the Japanese server is 1/10 of the international server, and stamina recovery and accompanying features are also more user-friendly!)." People wanted a global release because they don't speak JP/ASIA language and may have server issues so even there your logic is flawed.

Originally posted by 小学:
Because Action Taimanin closed its Japanese server in 21, there is currently only the international server remaining. At that time, the issue was discussed on Japanese forums, and the reasons almost all pointed to cost-saving measures as a last resort. Over these past two years, I have also been observing that the concurrent player count for this game on Steam has indeed been slowly decreasing (around 1500-2500 people in April of 22, now around 1200-1800 people).
Regarding this point, I have also found some issues with my English expression. (I want to convey that it is extremely difficult and there is a risk of being forced to surrender.)

The JP server closed because they have merged servers with the global release, so the JP version + a global version that share the same data is pointless since JP players have their stuff in global version. People were mad because JP players had a head start and banners/costumes we didn't have but at the end of the day we didn't care since whales are in the 100th top rank.

My final question is: Why should we listen to someone who have spent 120$ on a gacha that as been released 1 week ago ? You have made a bad decision so now you are mad but it doesn't maen that everyone did the same mistake, if the game close like all online games at some point I'll lose 0$, so why should we listen to someone who did a terrible choice ? 120$ is the price of 2 AAA games, like MGS collection VOL1 is 60$ for the whole pack so you could have bought that and gifted a copy to a friend but instead you decided to spend cash on a week old gacha game because you wanted to stomp F2P players so F2P players at least won't listen to you especialy since you tried to whale.
萨多卡 Nov 3, 2023 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by Deathraven13:
I understand that you are mad but lying won't help you, so let's see some proofs and facts:

First of all, you assume that I am lying. I think you are extremely extreme. You can question others' viewpoints, but labeling others is extremely repulsive.

The current number of online players in "Action Taimanin" can be seen on Steam (as long as a few consecutive days are selected to sample fixed nodes), and relevant websites also have statistics. Why don't you verify it yourself before questioning?(Especially when you publicly accuse me of lying.You should present evidence of the ingredients to refute me.)
https://mjj.today/i/6tOpg0
https://mjj.today/i/6tOqVp

Regarding the issue of "ACTION Taimanin", I have already explained it in the comments (this is a relatively pessimistic speculation - I also posted a Chinese explanation, which is more accurate in expression). From a long-term perspective, it is indeed declining. In fact, its performance is quite similar to that of a game called "Destiny Child" in South Korea that has already been confirmed for closure.Moreover, what is most striking is that the data for "RPGX" is much worse than "Action", and the rating on Google Play Store is less than 3 points.

Is there any problem with me recommending everyone to play on the Japanese server? The Steam version has official language support for Japanese, and there are also notifications in Japanese, indicating that there are players who understand Japanese (I myself can speak Japanese), so I am providing relevant suggestions to players who have such needs.(I briefly introduced the advantages of the Japanese version to everyone.)

Regarding the "johren" platform, I do not deny that there are channels to understand the general situation of a certain game within a period of time (especially through prepaid cards payment, This part is difficult to quantify).In fact, this is already a relatively optimistic statement.

Originally posted by Deathraven13:
The JP server closed because they have merged servers with the global release, so the JP version + a global version that share the same data is pointless since JP players have their stuff in global version. People were mad because JP players had a head start and banners/costumes we didn't have but at the end of the day we didn't care since whales are in the 100th top rank.

My final question is: Why should we listen to someone who have spent 120$ on a gacha that as been released 1 week ago ? You have made a bad decision so now you are mad but it doesn't maen that everyone did the same mistake, if the game close like all online games at some point I'll lose 0$, so why should we listen to someone who did a terrible choice ? 120$ is the price of 2 AAA games, like MGS collection VOL1 is 60$ for the whole pack so you could have bought that and gifted a copy to a friend but instead you decided to spend cash on a week old gacha game because you wanted to stomp F2P players so F2P players at least won't listen to you especialy since you tried to whale.
——These words are just your personal opinions, do not attempt to represent others. In fact, online games and single-player games are two different types, your comparison is very one-sided.

I spend more money on this game out of love for it (there is an ancient saying, "If you have Buddha in your heart, everything you see becomes Buddha." What you said actually reflects your own inner thoughts), besides, this game doesn't have too many competitive elements.Just like I mentioned before, I joined two game groups with a total of about 720 people (that are about this game).Because of the agent's inconsistency, a large number of players have quit! The gem rewards in the game are clearly stated, but the agent blames their own problems on the players. This is a matter of character.
https://mjj.today/i/6tOalO
https://mjj.today/i/6tONjl
Last edited by 萨多卡; Nov 4, 2023 @ 2:12am
Deathraven13 Nov 3, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by 小学:
First of all, you assume that I am lying. I think you are extremely extreme. You can question others' viewpoints, but labeling others is extremely repulsive.

The current number of online players in "Action Taimanin" can be seen on Steam (as long as a few consecutive days are selected to sample fixed nodes), and relevant websites also have statistics. Why don't you verify it yourself before questioning?(Especially when you publicly accuse me of lying.You should present evidence of the ingredients to refute me.)
https://mjj.today/i/6tOpg0
https://mjj.today/i/6tOqVp

Regarding the issue of "ACTION Taimanin", I have already explained it in the comments (this is a relatively pessimistic speculation - I also posted a Chinese explanation, which is more accurate in expression). From a long-term perspective, it is indeed declining. In fact, its performance is quite similar to that of a game called "Destiny Child" in South Korea that has already been confirmed for closure.Moreover, what is most striking is that the data for "RPGX" is much worse than "Action", and the rating on Google Play Store is less than 3 points.

Is there any problem with me recommending everyone to play on the Japanese server? The Steam version has official language support for Japanese, and there are also notifications in Japanese, indicating that there are players who understand Japanese (I myself can speak Japanese), so I am providing relevant suggestions to players who have such needs.(I briefly introduced the advantages of the Japanese version to everyone.)

Regarding the "johren" platform, I do not deny that there are channels to understand the general situation of a certain game within a period of time (especially through prepaid cards payment, This part is difficult to quantify).In fact, this is already a relatively optimistic statement.

——These words are just your personal opinions, do not attempt to represent others. In fact, online games and single-player games are two different types, your comparison is very one-sided.

I spend more money on this game out of love for it (there is an ancient saying, "If you have Buddha in your heart, everything you see becomes Buddha." What you said actually reflects your own inner thoughts), besides, this game doesn't have too many competitive elements.Just like I mentioned before, I joined two game groups with a total of about 720 people (that are about this game).Because of the agent's inconsistency, a large number of players have quit! The gem rewards in the game are clearly stated, but the agent blames their own problems on the players. This is a matter of character.
https://mjj.today/i/6tOalO
https://mjj.today/i/6tONjl

I know you are lying since I know the facts and you have showed no proof, like AT last month made 230 000$.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4tiJFyDkjs

So the number of players on steam doesn't matter if the game make cash so steam numbers doesn't matter especialy since there is a mobile version and only cash matter for a game to be alive.

Yes recommending players to play the JP version when players wanted the global release because they don't speak japanesse Is an issue because if people already speak Japanesse they would have played it obviously.

For the second part you make no sense but that's due to the language barrier I guess.Like I talk about AT JP version and AT global version, you have mentionned that AT JP version closed and I told you that it's because they have merged servers, so JP players can play the global version as usual meaning AT is not even close to dying and you have no proof to support that claim.

Quoting you: "this game doesn't have too many competitive elements." The arena is still disabled, that's where the PvP is at, click on the news (in-game), select "IMPORTANT" tab in the right corner, it's the middle message. So for now there is no PvP until they fix it..........

As I've said it doesn't matter if steam players or your group get low numbers, what matter is if the game is profitable or not, Imagine if a game earn 10 billion $ with 100 players and another one earn 100$ with 10 million players, guess who will die first.

PS: Quoting you: "[...]and relevant websites also have statistics. Why don't you verify it yourself before questioning? (Especially when you publicly accuse me of lying.You should present evidence of the ingredients to refute me.]"

You are making claims (like AT shutting down soon) but you show no proofs, I ask for proofs and tell you the game earn between 200 000$ to 400 000$, so you want me to find your proofs and you want to see mine, that's not how it work, so check the video and you'll see what the data says (AT earned 230 000$ for the last month) so go ahead and show me the proof that AT will shut down, a real proof not your fanpage of AT losing 10 members.
Schmaaazzh Nov 3, 2023 @ 9:58pm 
This is why you should never spend money on gacha ♥♥♥♥. You are literally wasting money because you get NOTHiNG. The game can shut down at any point and every cent will have been for nothing in the end.

I went ahead and spent a fair chunk when Beat Wars came out only for them to shut down after 8 months. I felt like a complete dumbass. Never again.
萨多卡 Nov 4, 2023 @ 3:08am 
Quoting your words, you are too self-righteous and always use your imagination to vilify others. When someone disagrees with your views, you accuse them of lying without being able to prove it at all.The data for "Action" in October is not very good. In fact, many games that used to be better than it may face the risk of shutting down.In fact, Tencent, as a major game company, has shut down quite a few games this year. Especially a game called "俄羅斯方塊環遊記" in Chinese translation. This game used to top the free game chart on iOS and its data before the announcement of closure was not bad either. However, its China server has been completely shut down!
https://www.163.com/dy/article/IEEDDQHL05119K9O.html
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14D4y1T7hF/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.3

https://pdf.dfcfw.com/pdf/H3_AP202007151391795204_1.pdf
——In fact, I have also studied industry reports. These data are all public and can help us gain a deeper understanding of the industry's development status. They are more intuitive and comprehensive than just a list of October income rankings!
And what I mainly emphasize is not "Action", but the current worse state of this work. The international version of this work has almost unsatisfactory data on all platforms, with a flood of negative reviews on Steam (over 300 active users, data previously provided), and a rating of 2.2 on the Google Store (with over 1000 downloads). Isn't that bad enough? Or do you think there is still room for decline? If the agent continues to neglect users like this, I have to give a very pessimistic expectation, so I don't recommend spending money in-game.

Originally posted by Deathraven13:
The JP server closed because they have merged servers with the global release, so the JP version + a global version that share the same data is pointless since JP players have their stuff in global version. People were mad because JP players had a head start and banners/costumes we didn't have but at the end of the day we didn't care since whales are in the 100th top rank.

My final question is: Why should we listen to someone who have spent 120$ on a gacha that as been released 1 week ago ? You have made a bad decision so now you are mad but it doesn't maen that everyone did the same mistake, if the game close like all online games at some point I'll lose 0$, so why should we listen to someone who did a terrible choice ? 120$ is the price of 2 AAA games, like MGS collection VOL1 is 60$ for the whole pack so you could have bought that and gifted a copy to a friend but instead you decided to spend cash on a week old gacha game because you wanted to stomp F2P players so F2P players at least won't listen to you especialy since you tried to whale.
——About this part of the content, it is just your personal opinion. We all play games not to compare anything, but simply to enjoy the process. In fact, only those who are addicted to the internet and have low self-esteem would have such thoughts. We don't care.
萨多卡 Nov 4, 2023 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by jasiqueiraneto:
Originally posted by Frieren:
x2, I also want to know
I think that it's because of the revenue not being very high, if I remember correct they even already merged the JP and Global to cut cost
What you said is correct, I have already updated the relevant description.
Deathraven13 Nov 4, 2023 @ 1:11pm 
Originally posted by 小学:
What you said is correct, I have already updated the relevant description.

I even told you but you wanted to be right so badly that you ignored the truth.

Next time you should do some research so you'll know what you are talking about, hence why what I've said is not my opinion but facts, you are the one talking about your opinion, that's why I've asked you for proof like when you said that Action Taimanin will shutdown because the JP server went down but as mentionned they have merged it, meaning that without any proof AT is not going to shut down soon thus you have been lying, now you admit it but it's too late.

Be more careful next time in order to avoid lying.
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