[Spoiler Talk] Ending and Story

[xavier]

Ok, so I just got ending B [Take Care of Yourself]. I can get the whole Silent Hill 3 plotline of evil experiment cult makes false god that maps onto depressed girl. I want to know really is, so is Becky confirmed to be K. Cross's murderer? If so, that would make the arsonist puzzle make sense, but also, the motivation of Wendigo to try to place the false god onto Becky. Kinda confused about Jasmine's involvement but I can chalk that up to this game's writing being ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because it is, like let's admit that, but a part of what is charming about this game.

[worthless dogshit player]

Wendigo is a good bit older than the main cast so I doubt Becky had anything to do with what happened, it seems like K. Cross died before the project got retired which was quite a while before the story takes place.

[Tofuwu]

i do wonder if k cross was intentionally metacontextual or not, either way i ended up considering how you could view k cross and becky as roles the player both takes as part of the games greater message and philosophy, that also being said yeah lily/wendigo is the murderer, but the character it cuts to in-between looks concerningly like becky, and i dont think thats a shot of our becky watching either. Im thinking K cross either looked just like becky, or this is another sh3 pseudo reincarnation thing.

[xavier]

Originally posted by SUNDANCESHOT:

Wendigo is a good bit older than the main cast so I doubt Becky had anything to do with what happened, it seems like K. Cross died before the project got retired which was quite a while before the story takes place.

If that is the case, then it would make sense why you get the choice to either leave Wendigo alive or not, which Becky emulates (I don't know this but I am assuming it is true without a repeat playthrough). If Wendigo had murdered her sister, which we can assume is an accident, then Wendigo probably used the film studio's cult mapping seance to use Becky as a vessel to resurrect Cross out of longing. The game flips around the positions of everyone in the cutscenes to create confusion of the "onlooker" but narratively speaking, this is probably what makes sense the most.

Jasmine is probably just there because yada yada false god corrupts the world die evil die.

Tomaro is just hungry.

[アンバー三十八]

Since it's a spoiler thread anyway, did anybody manage to kill the chainsaw demon on top of the corrupted Tomaro's tower? I never have enough ammo for him after the bossfight, however once he's shot the eerie music starts playing, so maybe it's possible somehow?

Also, what's the deal with the black demon behind the fence near the pool? Just a decoration?

[xavier]

Originally posted by アンバー三十八:

Since it's a spoiler thread anyway, did anybody manage to kill the chainsaw demon on top of the corrupted Tomaro's tower? I never have enough ammo for him after the bossfight, however once he's shot the eerie music starts playing, so maybe it's possible somehow?

Also, what's the deal with the black demon behind the fence near the pool? Just a decoration?

If you mean Wendigo Tomaro fight, I don't remember seeing a chainsaw dude unless you mean the Yellow ending.

I thought that black demon by the pool was weird too and couldn't really do anything to it no matter how hard I tried. Attention to detail: if you look in the pool before getting Tomaro food, the pool says that it is sponsored by Seven and Sons, then if you look in it after killing her boss form, the pool writing disappears.

[アンバー三十八]

Originally posted by xavier:

Originally posted by アンバー三十八:

Since it's a spoiler thread anyway, did anybody manage to kill the chainsaw demon on top of the corrupted Tomaro's tower? I never have enough ammo for him after the bossfight, however once he's shot the eerie music starts playing, so maybe it's possible somehow?

Also, what's the deal with the black demon behind the fence near the pool? Just a decoration?

If you mean Wendigo Tomaro fight, I don't remember seeing a chainsaw dude unless you mean the Yellow ending.

I mean this one
https://imgur.com/a/i1I27qh

Apparently, it's the same guy we see when we ride the elevator in the theater.

Another curious fact: in the location with the rotating angle platforms, in the first-player mode you can take a platform and drift on it into the white void that seems to continue endlessly. That was absolutely uncanny experience, and I got totally lost, not sure if there's some kind of secret or anything else.

[xavier]

Interesting. I wonder if that is a Silent Hill 3 reference to Vatriel in how Vatriel stalks Heather throughout that game. I know (Spoiler) in Ending B that you have to kill it to get the keycard for Level 5.

Haven't tried out 1st Person mode. TBH didn't delete my save yet so I didn't see if I could access the NG+ options.

[アンバー三十八]

Originally posted by xavier:

Interesting. I wonder if that is a Silent Hill 3 reference to Vatriel in how Vatriel stalks Heather throughout that game. I know (Spoiler) in Ending B that you have to kill it to get the keycard for Level 5.

Haven't tried out 1st Person mode. TBH didn't delete my save yet so I didn't see if I could access the NG+ options.

I had to start a new game to get the FPS mode (iirc it's the blue medallion you get at the very beginning in the school hall).

Another curious fact: when you fall into water or enter a new room in FPS mode, rarely you can see a text on the screen for a brief moment (I only managed to notice the "...know who are you..." part so far).

[xavier]

I actually noticed the flashing text watching someone else's playthrough yesterday on their first run. I think the chances are very low.

[Tofuwu]

Considering all the sh3 references, I wouldn't be surprised if becky is some sorta kinda??? reincarnation of k cross, even if k's spirit sorta lingers on separate from her. There's no confirmation of k cross just going away after ending B, and they seem to look a hell of a lot like becky, to the point of thinking they were becky, that and ending y felt very telling in how they saw color again and becky smiled, shes her own person, but i think shes also in a way k cross to some extent

[ゲスト]

I'm still working on trying to piece things together, but so far, here's what I've been able to understand:

Lisa Cross (aka Wendigo Solace) murdered her sister, K. Cross, while being filmed for a T&C production. The intent behind the murder was never made clear, but if it wasn't unintentional, it's entirely possible that the murder could've been a part of an experimental project conducted by T&C, regarding the mirrored realm, inter-realm/spiritual communication, etc.
The "C" in "T&C" stands for "Campbell," which happens to be Jasmine's family name. Her grandfather, Gerald Campbell, was a doctor and professor who created the "aura adoption" hypothesis, which, in short, claimed that art imitates life and that life, eventually, imitates art. Gerald's son / Jasmine's father, Mike Campbell, wanted to prove the hypothesis true.

Jasmine claims that all film studios have a divine connection-- that being why Mike bought out a run-down film studio, and through his art wanted to create a mirrored version of the "god" that the studio was connected to-- which I can assume he tried doing in hopes of bringing it to life. Jasmine also claims that the project was "on ice" for years, but was being supported by someone (whose name she doesn't mention) in secret.

**SPECULATIONS AHEAD**
Here is where I assume that the unnamed secret supported is Lisa/Wendigo. Jasmine speaks of the mirrored god being able to grant wishes, and I believe that perhaps Lisa made to it a wish that she may be able to speak to / see her sister, K. Cross, once again, in hopes of shedding the guilt she's been living with ever since the murder. The mirrored god must've accepted Lisa's wish under the condition that she offer her a proper sacrifice.
If my speculations thus far are true, then Lisa is the one that Jasmine has been in contact with regarding this entire situation, as Jasmine claims that the *secret supporter* had asked of her to keep her updated on the progress of the project. This is enforced by the fact that Lisa keeps a picture of Jasmine in a frame on her computer desk, in the blue shed.
Here is where it gets a little confusing for me. Jasmine claims that Becky's uniform is the proper sacrifice, while Lisa claims that Becky herself is the proper sacrifice.
Regardless, Jasmine made Becky her uniform in such a way that it replicates the uniform that Lisa was wearing during the filming of K. Cross's murder.
Perhaps Becky's uniform (or Becky in her uniform) is the needed sacrifice to the mirrored god considering that it may establish the closest connection with the angel of K. Cross-- or will at least create the best chance of succeeding in establishing that connection. Something really awe-inspiring is that the angel of K. Cross is constantly at the side of Becky, guiding and protecting her, and we learn that it's because she (K. Cross) believes that Becky closely resembles a younger Lisa.
K. Cross's willingness to protect someone who she thought looked just like her murderer makes me think that she was able to find forgiveness for what Lisa did to her-- especially when one of K. Cross's dialogue options in the final act of the B ending goes something along the lines of
"It's okay Lisa, it's all over now."
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This is the gist of what I've been able to make of the story.
Hopefully someone can step forth sooner or later and debunk it in full, because I'm just as curious as anyone else.

[アンバー三十八]

Anyone else tried to decrypt the game banner yet? That's what I managed to so far:

-important in my career that you destined to be my acting apotheosis.
-(indistinguishable)
20 years. It's been 20 years. I remember it vividly. The memory rem-
-came my acting ultimatum and you have the call to crew (crow?) ever
-of a scoop of ice cream on a nice summer day. It was me in-
-beg for forgiveness and mercy and acceptance -
-20 years-------------------------destined-
(indistinguishable middle part)
(lower part of the logo) -no, no, no, my dear-
-always had an end point that it can never -------- and I never-
----(blood?)---------------------------------sucked---
Welcome to the bloodletting; let disaster str-
-my dear sister even if you had a change of heart, even if it was just an
accident, I will not forgive you and I never will.