*Spoiler Question about Keys

[Kinesis]

So I got a crypto key, but now I can't seem to find anymore. The first one was found in an event cave opening, but after another 5 speed runs down to the bottom of the world I have yet to see another despite opening up every cave entrance down the mountain.

Do future keys spawn at random? Or do you have to venture deep into the bottom mountain caves to find future keys? If it's at random, that seems kind of grindy to not see any of them after 5 runs.

Beyond that, just general balance stuff, I don't really find most upgrades beyond green level resources to be worth the trouble when all you really need is a stockpile of green for repairs, a fully upgraded missile, and upgraded movement speed to just rush past most things and just start opening up the bottom for inspection quickly.

**So update, I found the keys. They are very much buried in the ultra-long caves, usually somewhere near the top right against a wall. Also seems you have to go both up and down the wall to find them, as one seems to spawn in an event, the other 4 are split in random caves 2 at the top and 2 towards the bottom. You pretty much have to wall out every cave to find them, which means you NEED masking plates maxed and you must speedrun mining upgrades.

[LordBlade]

Yeah, you'll randomly get keys. The RNG in this game is infuriating.

[Nemesis]

12 hours in and I found two so far, 1 in cave like OP and another one inside a "large" cave.

[Hojosky]

I currently have 4 keys and know where the keys go but still need to get 1 more key.... Very RNG. I have found them in small, med, and large caves and found one just in a simple one room. Still missing 3 ish of the gadget on the second page.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Hojosky:

I currently have 4 keys and know where the keys go but still need to get 1 more key.... Very RNG. I have found them in small, med, and large caves and found one just in a simple one room. Still missing 3 ish of the gadget on the second page.

Whats your playtime?
13 hours now and I have 2 keys and missing 3 gadgets too, RNG is going to kill this game...

[Hojosky]

I am at 13 hours also.

[Hojosky]

15 hours, I got all the keys but rng is nuts. I got lucky with 4 mins left and then made a mad dash. There seems to be a bug with Long Time Coming achievement even though you need it for The Day the World Went Away achievement. Still missing 3 gadget and upgrade all I can. I found for a first time a Docking Station Relic which I did not know existed in the game. You like place it and it buffs you in the cave.

[Hojosky]

Just to followup, if you do another run, there are no more bosses or time limited. Would be nice to have an option to bring the box back. Turns into infinite sandbox it seems or it bug out and there a timer but no longer visible.

[Kinesis]

So update, I found the keys. They are very much buried in the ultra-long caves, usually somewhere near the top right against a wall. Also seems you have to go both up and down the wall to find them, as one seems to spawn in an event, the other 4 are split in random caves 2 at the top and 2 towards the bottom. You pretty much have to wall out every cave to find them, which means you NEED masking plates maxed and you must speedrun mining upgrades.

[LordBlade]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

Whats your playtime?
13 hours now and I have 2 keys and missing 3 gadgets too, RNG is going to kill this game...

I have just over 10 hours, and I found all 5 keys. It's all just RNG.
I found one on my first run, then none for the next few, then 3 in a single run.

[Phil Of Doom]

Originally posted by Kinesis:

So update, I found the keys. They are very much buried in the ultra-long caves, usually somewhere near the top right against a wall. Also seems you have to go both up and down the wall to find them, as one seems to spawn in an event, the other 4 are split in random caves 2 at the top and 2 towards the bottom. You pretty much have to wall out every cave to find them, which means you NEED masking plates maxed and you must speedrun mining upgrades.

Instead of masking plates just leave 1 small flying bat alive after the first wave. They hardly do any damage and the timer wont reset for the next wave till its dead.

You will still get the waves when going through a cloud and when you kill a boss it kills your little bat. But you can just keep another thing alive when the next wave spawns

[Phil Of Doom]

Originally posted by Hojosky:

I found for a first time a Docking Station Relic which I did not know existed in the game. You like place it and it buffs you in the cave.

If you put the docking station back into the spider when you go to the next mine another one will spawn when you go to pick it up. Looks like the buffs do stack, but carrying round 4/5 stations while amusing isn't really worth the effort.

[Botji]

11 hours in now and only have 2 keys, I think im missing 2-3 of the upgrades found on the other page and none of them are fully upgraded yet.

Main upgrade screen is 100% now but im sort of hitting a WALL so to speak..
Got a fairly streamlined path to upgrade max movement speed and mining speed to the one before max level before the first timer runs out.

Feels like I am exploring tons of caves after that but no more keys and like a average of 1 upgrade schematic per 4-5 runs. It kinda crushes the motivation when I am already hitting really fast "efficiency" upgrades and still dont have enough time to explore the top section of the wall so it feels like whenever the last stage of the boss arrives I was one or two caves away from that key, over and over again.

Doesnt help that the game is like "here, take these machinegun upgrades!" when I find stuff in caves. Hurts bad when I know there are amazing ones like move + mining speed and a big mining speed one, both of these are massive increases in how much you are able to do in a run.

Meanwhile... +15% faster turret rotation on a weapon I dont even use/upgrade! yay!



Still like the game tho.

Edit: oof, I think I just did like a 4 hour session and now I see a patch that probably would have made things better that I am fairly certain I did NOT have when playing so my complaining is maybe already outdated!

[Vultan]

I found a key, what are they for?

[Kinesis]

Originally posted by VultanTV:

I found a key, what are they for?

Find 5 total then go to the top of the world.

[HellDen20024]

14.1 hours have passed, 4 keys have been found, almost everything has been pumped (I hate looking for drawings), all weapons have been found.I think so, either the last key will accidentally fall asleep, or on the half-upper tier.-_-(ps laser machine gun imba)