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Loken Jan 27, 2024 @ 11:56pm
Why Denuvo while the game is also on Switch?
What's the logic to put Denuvo on a game which is also on Switch without Denuvo?
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Nrogara Jan 28, 2024 @ 4:28am 
Because nobody has yet managed to convince the decision makers that DRM software in games are a waste of money and time.
Loken Jan 28, 2024 @ 5:03am 
That could be the reason. Because I don't find the logic to use Denuvo in a game with 10-37k of sales.
Hayatemaru Jan 28, 2024 @ 8:18am 
The game probably has Denuvo on switch. Denuvo was patched into the switch last year
Loken Jan 28, 2024 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
The game probably has Denuvo on switch. Denuvo was patched into the switch last year

I can confirm you it doesn't have it.
Hayatemaru Jan 28, 2024 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Loken:
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
The game probably has Denuvo on switch. Denuvo was patched into the switch last year

I can confirm you it doesn't have it.
How are you able to check, just curious. Did you dump the cart or download clean from your own switch, not convert anything, and analyze? Or did you download from someone else who likely cracked it already?
Fenlix Jan 28, 2024 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
Originally posted by Loken:

I can confirm you it doesn't have it.
How are you able to check, just curious. Did you dump the cart or download clean from your own switch, not convert anything, and analyze? Or did you download from someone else who likely cracked it already?
If it really had Denuvo no one would have likely cracked it already...
Hayatemaru Jan 28, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by Fenlix:
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
How are you able to check, just curious. Did you dump the cart or download clean from your own switch, not convert anything, and analyze? Or did you download from someone else who likely cracked it already?
If it really had Denuvo no one would have likely cracked it already...
Very untrue, people target DRM they don't like specifically. I don't work on likely, I work on knowing
Monjac Jan 28, 2024 @ 7:35pm 
First of all , the major thing DRM has affected is the game performance . Yet there should hardly be any game performance issues in this game unless you have decades old PC .

Second , the large majority of the jacksparrowing happen in the PC field , more so than any other platform.

While there genuinely are people who are concerned about DRM (which is fair ), most of you are just pissed because it means you don't just to jacksparrow it anytime soon . There are some exception but very rare. Crackers rarely work on visual novels right after its releases.

Now maybe put some money aside to buy the game , the fact that you still don't have it means you don't get to complain , because the game runs perfectly on my 9 years old laptop.

Other than game performance , what else can you complain about ? The steam platform itself is also a kind of DRM.
Last edited by Monjac; Jan 28, 2024 @ 7:36pm
Fenlix Jan 28, 2024 @ 8:34pm 
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
Originally posted by Fenlix:
If it really had Denuvo no one would have likely cracked it already...
Very untrue, people target DRM they don't like specifically. I don't work on likely, I work on knowing
Denuvo is extremely hard to crack, there was literally only one person willing to deal with Denuvo, and they usually had to spend a whole month before being able to remove it.
Melodia Jan 29, 2024 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by Monjac:
First of all , the major thing DRM has affected is the game performance .

.....

Other than game performance , what else can you complain about ?

It's amazing how people seem to believe THIS, which is usually false......yet don't actually understand the ACTUAL problem with Denuvo, i.e. the fact it forcers you to be online every couple weeks.



Originally posted by Monjac:
The steam platform itself is also a kind of DRM.

This isn't inherently true, there's plenty of DRM-free games on Steam that render it basically a store/launcher. True for most games though, but the only requirement is that you have the Steam client open -- not even offline -- when you launch the game
Loken Jan 29, 2024 @ 1:50am 
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
Originally posted by Fenlix:
If it really had Denuvo no one would have likely cracked it already...
Very untrue, people target DRM they don't like specifically. I don't work on likely, I work on knowing

If you WORK on knowing, instead of ask me to share you why I know it, maybe you should consider to make your own research and find why I said the game isn't have Denuvo.
Monjac Jan 29, 2024 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by Melodia:

It's amazing how people seem to believe THIS, which is usually false......yet don't actually understand the ACTUAL problem with Denuvo, i.e. the fact it forcers you to be online every couple weeks.

This isn't inherently true, there's plenty of DRM-free games on Steam that render it basically a store/launcher. True for most games though, but the only requirement is that you have the Steam client open -- not even offline -- when you launch the game


But this is true . These 10 years old game should run flawlessly on a large majority on the PC / laptop system.

Why shouldn't they have DRM in this game in particular ? Give me 1 reason how the DRM in this game affect you personally.

I am not saying Denuvo is flawless . It has its own issues.

But the truth matters , the reality matters , regardless of how delusional you believe you are. The reality is You don't own the game , you don't get to complain . You didn't even get to play it , how did you know ? You are just F5-ing that BT page to see when you get to rob the game company for free.

If you actually care about voicing your opinion , you should have bought the game and then complain to Capcom . Company is far more likely to listen to their actual customers , than potential robbers who are complaining about them shutting the doors too tight . Learn the difference .


Last edited by Monjac; Jan 29, 2024 @ 2:52am
Hayatemaru Jan 29, 2024 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by Fenlix:
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
Very untrue, people target DRM they don't like specifically. I don't work on likely, I work on knowing
Denuvo is extremely hard to crack, there was literally only one person willing to deal with Denuvo, and they usually had to spend a whole month before being able to remove it.
Denuvo isn't the same across the board. Different versions and two different products with a similar name.

Originally posted by Loken:
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
Very untrue, people target DRM they don't like specifically. I don't work on likely, I work on knowing

If you WORK on knowing, instead of ask me to share you why I know it, maybe you should consider to make your own research and find why I said the game isn't have Denuvo.
What a lazy response. I ask for proof and you tell me "find my proof yourself!"
I said that it probably has Denuvo. Didn't make a claim, just posed a possibility.
You made the claim it definitely doesn't have Denuvo, so the burden of proof is on you.
Last edited by Hayatemaru; Jan 29, 2024 @ 6:30am
Loken Jan 29, 2024 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by Hayatemaru:
Originally posted by Fenlix:
Denuvo is extremely hard to crack, there was literally only one person willing to deal with Denuvo, and they usually had to spend a whole month before being able to remove it.
Denuvo isn't the same across the board. Different versions and two different products with a similar name.

Originally posted by Loken:

If you WORK on knowing, instead of ask me to share you why I know it, maybe you should consider to make your own research and find why I said the game isn't have Denuvo.
What a lazy response. I ask for proof and you tell me "find my proof yourself!"
I said that it probably has Denuvo. Didn't make a claim, just posed a possibility.
You made the claim it definitely doesn't have Denuvo, so the burden of proof is on you.

This is real world, not a court or academic discussion, I know it doesn't have Denuvo. Since you're who have intereset to know if that is truth and who said "I work on knowing", make example of your words and make your own research, because with that manners I'm not going to answer you. Since your manners are since the begging trying to demand something, in real world nobody has the obligation to answer you.
Nanarchiste Jan 29, 2024 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by Monjac:

Why shouldn't they have DRM in this game in particular ? Give me 1 reason how the DRM in this game affect you personally.

I'm not usually part of the anti-Denuvo crowd, far from it actually, but as you're asking for this game in particular, the answer is quite obvious.

Those games in particular, have been incredibly easy to "jacksparrow" for years (3DS, Android...). Those can already run on old potatoes (even the Switch version can), so there's nothing to actually protect here. Yeah, there are a few tweaks and QoL improvement, but for someone who actually wants to obtain this game by other means.... this won't be enough

Now how does it affect us ? Well cause Denuvo is not free, it's not even cheap. It's a colossal waste of money, and in the end of the day, the regular customers are the ones paying for it. So when it's just a colossal waste of money to protect a game for absolutely no reason (again, those have been online for years), a cheaper selling price would be a better option if Capcom wants to throw away their cash that much.
Last edited by Nanarchiste; Jan 29, 2024 @ 3:10pm
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