Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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['w'] Jan 16, 2024 @ 10:56am
ridiculous iconoclast reward +20points
Hero tells villain "Until next time" + 20 points

Yes, this doesn't feel unbalanced in the slightest.
Originally posted by =DeadShot=:
Originally posted by wilb:
Originally posted by Myth Alric:
It is a major choice. Do you respect evil people and their slaves right to live, or do you burn them all for being evil?
guess my misjudgment happened because you see the iconoclast choice right away and the other ones are revealed after you ponder about killing him.

I'm definitely not heretic, maybe a little dogmatic, but not blowing up the planet at the start was a grave mistake, didn't know that chaos can sail through space with a whole planet. If I'm not mistaken again.
Not blowing the planet nets Chaos a permanent base where it gives an easy access to their best tools.
And the souls of the people get to enjoy a permanent vacation, even after death in living biblical hell. All at the easy cost of a few hundred people you rescue, most of them are chaos infiltrators.
When you blow up the planet , you get no chaos base, and the soul of the dead people going to the Emperor. At least those that aren't chaos cultists at that time.
So it is a win.
With Tervantius choice is do you blow the part of Commoragh that is personaly resposible for your suffering and of stealing suns. With the added benefit you increase overall drukhari strife and make Vect throne shaky to the point first time in millenia he is vulnerable. And prevent all those drukhari to ever raid again? . At the cost of the lives and souls of the slaves in that part of Commoragh that you didn't save?
Or are you going to spare the slaves a reprieve, while knowing full well that the souls will go to Slaneesh anyway but much slower? Because by being tortured to death, their souls are slowly siphoned and sent to Slaneesh instead of the souls of the drukhari. That is what you choose by choosing the iconoclast way.
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Schlumpsha Jan 16, 2024 @ 11:05am 
That sounds riconoclastulous
wei270 Jan 16, 2024 @ 11:59am 
where do you get this option
['w'] Jan 16, 2024 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by wei270:
where do you get this option
Nearly at the end of act3, you face an enemy in a forcefield, whom you can't harm, as you have this insight you tell him that you will meet again and that it will be his end.
meatmaaan Jan 16, 2024 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by wilb:
Originally posted by wei270:
where do you get this option
Nearly at the end of act3, you face an enemy in a forcefield, whom you can't harm, as you have this insight you tell him that you will meet again and that it will be his end.
yeah deciding not to fight Tervantius was a bit weird as an iconoclast choice
wei270 Jan 16, 2024 @ 12:56pm 
oh......................... well he kinda did help you............... in his own ways so letting him go is a friendly option.
Cutlass Jack Jan 16, 2024 @ 1:17pm 
If I recall that scene correctly, it wasn't about letting him live. It was about the collateral damage of being able to kill him.
['w'] Jan 16, 2024 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:
If I recall that scene correctly, it wasn't about letting him live. It was about the collateral damage of being able to kill him.
Okay this would make more sense, somehow it flew over my head, the conversation options I had chosen didn't really reflect on that.

I only glimpsed at the forcefield and believed it to be impenetrable, so I left with the iconoclast option.
derrien Jan 16, 2024 @ 2:22pm 
Originally posted by wilb:
Hero tells villain "Until next time" + 20 points

Yes, this doesn't feel unbalanced in the slightest.

It's a bit more than just that, isn't it? Have you actually read through the consequence of attacking him? To do so you'd have to break the shield and breaking the shield would mean that every single person in this zone will be killed/consumed by "She Who Thirsts". It's not just for "cya."
['w'] Jan 16, 2024 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by derrien:
Originally posted by wilb:
Hero tells villain "Until next time" + 20 points

Yes, this doesn't feel unbalanced in the slightest.

It's a bit more than just that, isn't it? Have you actually read through the consequence of attacking him? To do so you'd have to break the shield and breaking the shield would mean that every single person in this zone will be killed/consumed by "She Who Thirsts". It's not just for "cya."

I looked at him, read that the field is impenetrable, because of that I didn't care for any other options and wished him all well until we meet again.

Not going to choose other options which aren't iconoclast or I'm never going to max it. And I didn't know if the option will still be selectable if I exhaust the other dialogue option, didn't want to gamble there.

Reloaded, okay I could have asked him what might happen if I attack the field and received the answer, that I would strengthen slaanesh by doing so.
Now it makes more sense.
Last edited by ['w']; Jan 16, 2024 @ 2:33pm
REhorror Jan 16, 2024 @ 2:35pm 
That choice pretty much confirms Iconoclast being the weird moralist route, fearing for the safety of the Dark Eldar, really?
DragonSoundxSG Jan 16, 2024 @ 2:37pm 
Iconoclast doesn't really fit in W4k bc generally any sort of pity results in betrayal lol
meatmaaan Jan 16, 2024 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by REhorror:
That choice pretty much confirms Iconoclast being the weird moralist route, fearing for the safety of the Dark Eldar, really?
i read it more as not wanting to empower chaos
['w'] Jan 16, 2024 @ 2:51pm 
I love the moment when then companions tell me later on, on the ship, that yrliet has to go and I respond. "yrliet will say "sorry" and we're done with it"
REhorror Jan 16, 2024 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by meatmaaan:
Originally posted by REhorror:
That choice pretty much confirms Iconoclast being the weird moralist route, fearing for the safety of the Dark Eldar, really?
i read it more as not wanting to empower chaos
In the warp (Cumonrag is situated in the webway, which is in the warp for laypersons), surely you jest?

Not to mention in-game Tervantas even says the Dark Eldar can patch that up, so this is a no-brainer, considering what Tervantas does with his Project actually affects realspace (stealing sun to fight Chaos). And his project is implied to not even be his original idea.
Last edited by REhorror; Jan 16, 2024 @ 4:13pm
Magni Jan 16, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by REhorror:
Originally posted by meatmaaan:
i read it more as not wanting to empower chaos
In the warp (Cumonrag is situated in the webway, which is in the warp for laypersons), surely you jest?

Not to mention in-game Tervantas even says the Dark Eldar can patch that up, so this is a no-brainer, considering what Tervantas does with his Project actually affects realspace (stealing sun to fight Chaos). And his project is implied to not even be his original idea.

The Webway is not "in the warp". It goes THROUGH the warp, the same way a tunnel network goes through the ground. And yeah, flooding Commoragh with daemons would be a giant all-you-can-eat buffet for ol' Slaanesh. One the Drukhari would eventually fix, but only after a decent amount of damage is done.
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