Dogmatic = evil?

[SoundsOfNight]

I'm sure killing a lot of ppl!

[Harukage]

Cogitator is a pure machine inhabited by a sacred machine spirit. You are comparing a servitor and a machine. Only augmentics are sacred in servitor.

[REhorror]

Servitors are literally half machine half flesh maintaned by tech priest.

A tech priest will regard a servitor higher than a fully flesh person due to their machine parts.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by Harukage:

You are mistaken. In this universe tech priests will sacrifice a legion of skitarii if it is bound by logic. Servitors are lower Augmentics will be harvested and reused. Fleshy parts do not matter.

And even then, are the tech priests NOT supposed to sacrifice skitarri legion due to logic?

Are sacred tech not to be recycled and reused? Are they supposed to be left to rot?

We normal humans are in a period of great arrogance where dogs and cats death make national news and everyone is supposed to throw away their smartphones and buy new ones on a yearly basis.

Do not assume this is always going to last.

[=DeadShot=]

Im not talking about choices when dealing with various crisises. That can be argued that the dogmatic choice is the harsh necessary one.
Im talking , did people read some of the colony projects or colony events? Or you simply go for rewards?
Or the book event with the servitor?
Or on the prison asteroid the inmates knew something was wrong when the warden and their guards weren't cartoonishly evil and approach modern day day prison admin?
One of the reason I didn't choose the Nomos ending is because I don't want to make being good with being a traitor to humanity.
And it is not all dogmatic choices are evil , but most of them are . And some of them it cannot be argued it is not necessary.
Not ico choices are good, or prudent.
I can agree that all heretical choices are evil.
What Incendia does is not justice , at least by eating human flesh, or by applying the same punishment for every crime no matter the severity.
I don't care about the pirate, and bandit dyeing but I do care about the petty thief, or the collateral damage innocent. Or the repentant person that does change their life. Footfall is s target rich, if you want to save the station instead of kill everyone you need to have some kind of target prioritization.
To tell the truth , xeno trading was Footfall lifeblood, you don't go start killing the small fry without a big grace period or alternatives. You go for the big shots.

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by REhorror:

Servitors are literally half machine half flesh maintaned by tech priest.

A tech priest will regard a servitor higher than a fully flesh person due to their machine parts.

Servitors should have been corpses turned into cyber robots. What Servitors are in the game, a great deal of time are innocents, or close to innocents, driven mad cyber slaves. That are alive and thinking without the ability to do anything with even their own bodies.

[May XD]

SOME heretical choices aren't evil, they are just indifferent.
Some are just straight up chaotic without having much morality to them.

Take for example the celebration of your ascension - you get options

- sing prayers - dogmatic
- execute corrupt officials - dogmatic
- donate food for the poor - icono
- give people booze and arrange some pit fighting - heretic

i mean, come on. it's not evil

[REhorror]

The prison warden is actually a sign of Iconoclast being a gateway drug to Chaos.

Nomos being the Iconoclast protector/get out of jail free card is lame as heck tho.

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by May XD:

SOME heretical choices aren't evil, they are just indifferent.
Some are just straight up chaotic without having much morality to them.

Take for example the celebration of your ascension - you get options

- sing prayers - dogmatic
- execute corrupt officials - dogmatic
- donate food for the poor - icono
- give people booze and arrange some pit fighting - heretic

i mean, come on. it's not evil

Yes because roman gladiatorial games are not evil or were not evil.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Originally posted by REhorror:

Servitors are literally half machine half flesh maintaned by tech priest.

A tech priest will regard a servitor higher than a fully flesh person due to their machine parts.

Servitors should have been corpses turned into cyber robots. What Servitors are in the game, a great deal of time are innocents, or close to innocents, driven mad cyber slaves. That are alive and thinking without the ability to do anything with even their own bodies.

How do you even know that a "great deal of servitors" in game are innocent?

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by REhorror:

The prison warden is actually a sign of Iconoclast being a gateway drug to Chaos.

Nomos being the Iconoclast protector/get out of jail free card is lame as heck tho.

You can be ico and still be loyal to the IOM and the Inquisitor.

[May XD]

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Yes because roman gladiatorial games are not evil or were not evil.

I mean, if you base your judgment on Russel Crowe's Gladiator they were pretty evil, but in reality gladiators were p much wrestlers of their time, they got paid pretty money, also everyone had fun, so i don't see the problem-

[REhorror]

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Originally posted by REhorror:

The prison warden is actually a sign of Iconoclast being a gateway drug to Chaos.

Nomos being the Iconoclast protector/get out of jail free card is lame as heck tho.

You can be ico and still be loyal to the IOM and the Inquisitor.

And that would make sense, you might not agree but you compromise.

Having made up god to support your indepence is lame-o as ♥♥♥♥.

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by REhorror:

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Servitors should have been corpses turned into cyber robots. What Servitors are in the game, a great deal of time are innocents, or close to innocents, driven mad cyber slaves. That are alive and thinking without the ability to do anything with even their own bodies.

How do you even know that a "great deal of servitors" in game are innocent?

Jae quest. Are 2 examples of innocents being turned or would be turned into a servitor, most likely. Fidellio another example.
Vhaebos VI initial projects are a choice of horrific evil. I choose to enslave xenos, because the other choices were nasty towards human innocents. I would have left the colony undeveloped if it didn't gimped my game.

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by May XD:

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Yes because roman gladiatorial games are not evil or were not evil.

I mean, if you base your judgment on Russel Crowe's Gladiator they were pretty evil, but in reality gladiators were p much wrestlers of their time, they got paid pretty money, also everyone had fun, so i don't see the problem-

The fact most gladiators died during their 2 years on the job from archeological data. Or young. Great. Or they were slaves. Or a form of human sacrifice at the beginning at funeral rites.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Im not talking about choices when dealing with various crisises. That can be argued that the dogmatic choice is the harsh necessary one.
Im talking , did people read some of the colony projects or colony events? Or you simply go for rewards?
Or the book event with the servitor?
Or on the prison asteroid the inmates knew something was wrong when the warden and their guards weren't cartoonishly evil and approach modern day day prison admin?
One of the reason I didn't choose the Nomos ending is because I don't want to make being good with being a traitor to humanity.
And it is not all dogmatic choices are evil , but most of them are . And some of them it cannot be argued it is not necessary.
Not ico choices are good, or prudent.
I can agree that all heretical choices are evil.
What Incendia does is not justice , at least by eating human flesh, or by applying the same punishment for every crime no matter the severity.
I don't care about the pirate, and bandit dyeing but I do care about the petty thief, or the collateral damage innocent. Or the repentant person that does change their life. Footfall is s target rich, if you want to save the station instead of kill everyone you need to have some kind of target prioritization.
To tell the truth , xeno trading was Footfall lifeblood, you don't go start killing the small fry without a big grace period or alternatives. You go for the big shots.

Dude what you are talking about?

Incendia did go against the head honcho, the RT helps her do that.

She can spare a whole lot of them except the actual heretic hiding in tje crowd.

Her trial actually vindicates her despite her cruel actions. She could literally cut oxygen or firebomb the whole place instead of wasting time.