Dogmatic = evil?

[DragonSoundxSG]

I'm sure killing a lot of ppl!

[REhorror]

Origineel geplaatst door =DeadShot=:

In my opinion being turned into servitor is a fate worst than death. I prefer death, and I would rather kill than condemn anyone as a servitor.

It seems many share this opinion but can I ask why that is?

[=DeadShot=]

Origineel geplaatst door REhorror:

Origineel geplaatst door =DeadShot=:

In my opinion being turned into servitor is a fate worst than death. I prefer death, and I would rather kill than condemn anyone as a servitor.

It seems many share this opinion but can I ask why that is?

Most people don't deserve death(either grown in lab and turned into servitor or minor crimes).
Most servitors are not killed first(brain dead) or the use of a corpse. We are talking about people that are aware and cannot move, interact with their own body. While their own body does what is programmed.
There is a small old game I have no mouth and I must scream. Servitors are just that on the large industrial scale that was made , in setting, as something normal.

[=DeadShot=]

Witness I don't feel that way towards sevo skulls that are just drones within a human or animal skull.
The same reason human robo brains in Fallout is the clearest indication that prefall USA was evil.

[REhorror]

Origineel geplaatst door =DeadShot=:

Origineel geplaatst door REhorror:

It seems many share this opinion but can I ask why that is?

Most people don't deserve death(either grown in lab and turned into servitor or minor crimes).
Most servitors are not killed first(brain dead) or the use of a corpse. We are talking about people that are aware and cannot move, interact with their own body. While their own body does what is programmed.
There is a small old game I have no mouth and I must scream. Servitors are just that on the large industrial scale that was made , in setting, as something normal.

Most people aren't servitors either man. It's a consequence for breaking the laws or some people want to repent.
Do you have similar problems with the death penalty or prison labor?

Loss of freedom/free-will isn't worse than death, life is still more important than free-will.

[Stechhelm]

Origineel geplaatst door REhorror:

Origineel geplaatst door =DeadShot=:

Most people don't deserve death(either grown in lab and turned into servitor or minor crimes).
Most servitors are not killed first(brain dead) or the use of a corpse. We are talking about people that are aware and cannot move, interact with their own body. While their own body does what is programmed.
There is a small old game I have no mouth and I must scream. Servitors are just that on the large industrial scale that was made , in setting, as something normal.

Most people aren't servitors either man. It's a consequence for breaking the laws or some people want to repent.
Do you have similar problems with the death penalty or prison labor?

Loss of freedom/free-will isn't worse than death, life is still more important than free-will.

I mean, they are lobotomized. Just read any story about lobotomy and you will probably understand why.

[REhorror]

Origineel geplaatst door Mako Kilo:

Origineel geplaatst door REhorror:

Most people aren't servitors either man. It's a consequence for breaking the laws or some people want to repent.
Do you have similar problems with the death penalty or prison labor?

Loss of freedom/free-will isn't worse than death, life is still more important than free-will.

I mean, they are lobotomized. Just read any story about lobotomy and you will probably understand why.

I assume they will be like vegetable where you have to feed them and stuff.
Meanwhile, a servitor can still move about, even with limited control.

[SunfireKnight86]

I mean, lawful evil, yes.

[SunfireKnight86]

Origineel geplaatst door Mako Kilo:

Origineel geplaatst door REhorror:

Most people aren't servitors either man. It's a consequence for breaking the laws or some people want to repent.
Do you have similar problems with the death penalty or prison labor?

Loss of freedom/free-will isn't worse than death, life is still more important than free-will.

I mean, they are lobotomized. Just read any story about lobotomy and you will probably understand why.

Lobotomized people still feel physical pain.

[Harukage]

Servitors do not feel pain. They do not have a function to feel pain. They do not have any personality either. So they can't suffer from feeling pain. They are in essence just tools that use parts of human brains as their processing unit. Nothing more. The person they once were is dead.
It would be different thing if you talk about arco-flagellant and penitent engines. But those are not servitors. And yes they are made to feel pain and suffering.

[REhorror]

I'm pretty sure servitors do feel pain, in game, they literally groan when you hit them in-game.

[Coldhands]

Origineel geplaatst door Cutlass Jack:

More people die just from you travelling between systems. Your ship is fueled by tragedy.

That’s true. When I hit level three iconoclast, I had my crew come tell me I was great and we had some many people volunteering to serve on my ship they didn’t know what to do with them all.
I was privately thinking that was for the best, considering how frequently whole compartments of people die during a warp jump.
I see why humans are the Imperium’s most plentiful, easiest to replace resource. : p

[DragonSoundxSG]

Origineel geplaatst door Cutlass Jack:

Origineel geplaatst door DragonSoundxSG:

I'm sure killing a lot of ppl!

They probably deserved it.

You aren't wrong.

Pity breeds chaos.

[DragonSoundxSG]

Origineel geplaatst door SunfireKnight86:

I mean, lawful evil, yes.

True dat.

[Harukage]

Origineel geplaatst door REhorror:

I'm pretty sure servitors do feel pain, in game, they literally groan when you hit them in-game.

It is hard to feel pain, when your pain centers are removed from brain. Because you do not need that to be glorified elevator button.

[SunfireKnight86]

Even the wiki page says the transformation is incredibly painful.