Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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REhorror Jan 11, 2024 @ 4:09am
Spoilers - Yrliet's final turn-about in Act 4
I just admit in the Act 4 forest encounter that my predecessor has something to do with their Craftworld's destruction.

And wow, immediately quest failed, Yrliet switches sides and combat starts.

These Eldar don't even let the mon-keigh have a minute to explain himself, eh?

EDIT: It's not even an admission, it's a "what if" even.
Last edited by REhorror; Jan 11, 2024 @ 4:11am
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REhorror Jan 12, 2024 @ 6:34am 
The virgin Eldar vs. the chadette Sister of Battle.
https://imgur.com/fGiSJoe
https://imgur.com/SkntTAY

And this is why Argenta is the best frikkin' companion.

Also, so tsun tsun, "it's not like I want to help these dirty monkeigh or anything" this is like just my japanese anime.
https://imgur.com/ISFNrUz
https://imgur.com/UKrATtz

And just last night, she wanted to kill my ass for saying the p-word (predecessor).
corisai Jan 12, 2024 @ 6:43am 
Originally posted by REhorror:
The virgin Eldar vs. the chadette Sister of Battle.
https://imgur.com/fGiSJoe
https://imgur.com/SkntTAY

And this is why Argenta is the best frikkin' companion.
LOL, Argenta being a HUGE hypocrite here. Rogue Trader mercy or even simply her being useful - is ONLY thing why Argenta herself is still living. Because you-know-why :)
REhorror Jan 12, 2024 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by REhorror:
The virgin Eldar vs. the chadette Sister of Battle.
https://imgur.com/fGiSJoe
https://imgur.com/SkntTAY

And this is why Argenta is the best frikkin' companion.
LOL, Argenta being a HUGE hypocrite here. Rogue Trader mercy or even simply her being useful - is ONLY thing why Argenta herself is still living. Because you-know-why :)
Aside from the fact my Officer RT ain't getting out of freaking Cumorag without her help and support, no.
corisai Jan 12, 2024 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by REhorror:
Aside from the fact my Officer RT ain't getting out of freaking Cumorag without her help and support, no.
Nah, Yrliet-assassin would carry you alone from Commoragh. She's quite capable girl too.
REhorror Jan 12, 2024 @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by REhorror:
Aside from the fact my Officer RT ain't getting out of freaking Cumorag without her help and support, no.
Nah, Yrliet-assassin would carry you alone from Commoragh. She's quite capable girl too.
More like she would carry some Dark Eldar master if I'm not around.
While Argenta was getting out and ready for the resistance and get betrayed, she's out there being a hobo.
Last edited by REhorror; Jan 12, 2024 @ 6:53am
Sancraid Phann Jan 12, 2024 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by corisai:
You're fooled by Eldar propaganda here. Their Seers never able to see the precise future and if they're trying to manipulate them - it all became much harder. So failing here is not uncommon for them.

It's okay to fail. Acting as stupid as writers make eldar do every single time... well, their usual actions if there are seers involved usually looks like this:
“I figured out your insidious plan, damned wall of mon-keigh manufactorum! In the future you will kill me, but I will stop it!” (seer runs up and hits the wall with his head)
It was funny once or twice. Now this just become boring.

Originally posted by REhorror:
In comparison Cassia romance dialogs have more variants.

That’s a good romance (chosen this one too for now). But the only romance that made any sense for a Rogue Trader its, basically, a Jae one. Because, well, you know, this is just a very good for business, having an absolutely-not-a-criminal-baroness-of-a-cold-trade around. Not to mention the fact that from her first appearance, she literally showers you with gifts in the form of xeno weapon and reputation with her colleagues just for a small help. Navigators have their own affairs and their own politics, there is simply little point in getting involved in it for the Trader, who usually has enough own problems. As for eldar romance, well, it, at least, funny. I happen to read an eldar trilogy by Gav Thorpe once upon a time, where are the close relationships of a craftworld eldar shown in a so simple way that neanderthals would seem to have more romance.
How eldar relationship look like on Alaitoc, the strictest of all craftworlds? Oh, pretty simple, exactly like what Yrliet was furious about: the hero meets a woman in the aspect temple and offers to attend some interesting event to begin with, but she replies that it’s easier to go straight to bed, and only after, if they like it, they could decide whether it’s worth communicating. Not to mention the fact that at the "strictest" craftworld eldar easily indulge in various types of “forbidden pleasures”, because it’s enough to erase the memory in the morning, then it just doesn’t count.
REhorror Jan 12, 2024 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by Sancraid Phann:
Originally posted by corisai:
You're fooled by Eldar propaganda here. Their Seers never able to see the precise future and if they're trying to manipulate them - it all became much harder. So failing here is not uncommon for them.

It's okay to fail. Acting as stupid as writers make eldar do every single time... well, their usual actions if there are seers involved usually looks like this:
“I figured out your insidious plan, damned wall of mon-keigh manufactorum! In the future you will kill me, but I will stop it!” (seer runs up and hits the wall with his head)
It was funny once or twice. Now this just become boring.

Originally posted by REhorror:
In comparison Cassia romance dialogs have more variants.

That’s a good romance (chosen this one too for now). But the only romance that made any sense for a Rogue Trader its, basically, a Jae one. Because, well, you know, this is just a very good for business, having an absolutely-not-a-criminal-baroness-of-a-cold-trade around. Not to mention the fact that from her first appearance, she literally showers you with gifts in the form of xeno weapon and reputation with her colleagues just for a small help. Navigators have their own affairs and their own politics, there is simply little point in getting involved in it for the Trader, who usually has enough own problems. As for eldar romance, well, it, at least, funny. I happen to read an eldar trilogy by Gav Thorpe once upon a time, where are the close relationships of a craftworld eldar shown in a so simple way that neanderthals would seem to have more romance.
How eldar relationship look like on Alaitoc, the strictest of all craftworlds? Oh, pretty simple, exactly like what Yrliet was furious about: the hero meets a woman in the aspect temple and offers to attend some interesting event to begin with, but she replies that it’s easier to go straight to bed, and only after, if they like it, they could decide whether it’s worth communicating. Not to mention the fact that at the "strictest" craftworld eldar easily indulge in various types of “forbidden pleasures”, because it’s enough to erase the memory in the morning, then it just doesn’t count.
Naw, Jae is my 2nd most hated companion next to Marazhai.
Just continue to play the game and discover her real social standing, she ain't even worth to lick the boots of a Commissar, let alone a RT.
corisai Jan 12, 2024 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Sancraid Phann:
“I figured out your insidious plan, damned wall of mon-keigh manufactorum! In the future you will kill me, but I will stop it!” (seer runs up and hits the wall with his head)
It was funny once or twice. Now this just become boring.
You're speaking about race that literally fu***d so much and so passionately that created a whole Chaos god. I repeat - that's a nature of Eldar, they try to look like noble all-knowing wise elves, while in fact they're coke addicts on overdose and trying to live with it somehow. You can't expect drug addicts to behave rationally (at least - often).

WH40k full of small story twists so initial impression is usually an incorrect one. Eldar looking like a generic "high elves" while in fact they only dreaming to became them :)
meatmaaan Jan 12, 2024 @ 12:45pm 
i just came in to say Argenta stinks and is the worst character :steamhappy:
Narky Jan 12, 2024 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Sancraid Phann:
“I figured out your insidious plan, damned wall of mon-keigh manufactorum! In the future you will kill me, but I will stop it!” (seer runs up and hits the wall with his head)
It was funny once or twice. Now this just become boring.
You're speaking about race that literally fu***d so much and so passionately that created a whole Chaos god. I repeat - that's a nature of Eldar, they try to look like noble all-knowing wise elves, while in fact they're coke addicts on overdose and trying to live with it somehow. You can't expect drug addicts to behave rationally (at least - often).

WH40k full of small story twists so initial impression is usually an incorrect one. Eldar looking like a generic "high elves" while in fact they only dreaming to became them :)

Unless you read into Craftworld's Alaitoc and Ulthwe, who are well aware of their past errors. They consider killing humans to be "murder" if it's without cause.

In-fact

Alaitoic are Egalitarian in their approach of a return to Empire—they're aware humans are here to stay and actually intend for humans to be a part of their visions of the future.

Biel-tan who got royally ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over by a compounded effort by Skarbrand and the Masque of Slaanesh are the genuine f*ckheads of the Asuryani because they want to rule the galaxy as it once was. That means...

There's no place for humans and they certainly do not like them.
Last edited by Narky; Jan 12, 2024 @ 12:51pm
Sancraid Phann Jan 12, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
I repeat - that's a nature of Eldar, they try to look like noble all-knowing wise elves, while in fact they're coke addicts on overdose and trying to live with it somehow.

Oh, yes, it's hard to argue with this. Of course, I’m used to eldar being portrayed this way, but sometimes, you know, it could be good to see some variety. They have many interesting features that writers could focus on, but instead all we usually got is «mon-keigh this» and «mon-keigh that».
Or maybe I'm just too used to the fact that in my Dark Heresy games, I tried to portray them a little more adequate than the classic image.
Last edited by Sancraid Phann; Jan 12, 2024 @ 12:53pm
☸𝕵𝖔☸ Jan 12, 2024 @ 1:37pm 
I played dogmatic but not zealot, and made them respect me in the end, so it all depends on your choice. I let them live peacefully on Janus but not lead, then helped Yrliet and forgive her then rescued the Seer in Dark Eldar city and what not, the Eldar didnt turn on me in the end and were known to join forces in the Expanse with the rogue trader against enemies.
Cyroy Jan 12, 2024 @ 2:43pm 
Honestly the final romance scene with Yrliet is actually kind of sweet. You actually do manage to convince her not all humans are bad and she will actually stop herself from referring to humans as mon-keigh. She also fully commits to being by your side, for the rest of your life as equals.

And Marazhai, the fact that he calls you by your title and/or name when he joins your retinue instead of calling you mon-keigh, shows a level of respect from him to you. At the very least he respects you more than Yrliet does in her earlier scenes.
SoundsOfNight Jan 12, 2024 @ 3:04pm 
Argenta with the "worst motive ever" award.

so here's this person who saved her life, allows her to pursue her interests...and she guns her down immediately upon seeing a Xenos artifact, no questions asked?

Writing is not Owlcats strongsuit.
meatmaaan Jan 12, 2024 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:
Argenta with the "worst motive ever" award.

so here's this person who saved her life, allows her to pursue her interests...and she guns her down immediately upon seeing a Xenos artifact, no questions asked?

Writing is not Owlcats strongsuit.
dont worry the Imperial fan boys eat that ♥♥♥♥ up
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