[Chapter 3 Spoilers] Yrliet

[Archbishop Desmond Calorie]

    
• Bring her on your ship and use your resources to help her find her people
      
• Endanger your crew to help her personally 3 times
      
• Still constantly insults you along the way
  
• Instantly betrays you when told to do so to find her people, and hands you over to her arch-enemies(what can go wrong?).
  
• The moment the trap is sprung, Marzipan says that he promised her he would bring her to the survivors of her craftworld, showing she directly collaborated with him and was willing to sacrifice your entire group, possibly even ship for this chance
  
• Due to her actions, you're left with a mindf*ck maggot that slowly kills you, Pasqal is literally gutted on the streets, Abelard gets 20years sucked out of his soul and Cassia is put in a mindr*pe pod for her captor's pleasure
  
• On escape and saving Yrliet from being r*ped on the streets of commoragh, she immediately says she'd do it all again, and instantly leaves if you don't agree to help her rescue her people on the spot
  
• After all is done and you rescue her from being lynched by your crew, she simply shrugs and says "thanks but your crew is gonna keep the memories of the torture in their souls for the rest of their lives" and ♥♥♥♥♥ off back into her quarters.

Meanwhile on Reddit: yOu jUsT hAtE hEr bEcAuSE sHe's nOt An oBediEnT wOmAn!

The way I see it, the only people not executing her on the spot, are those who are blinded by having her as romance option(creeps). I've been playing and reading 40k for like 25 years now. There's no line of thought, be it dogmatic, iconoclast, or heretic, that wouldn't blow her out of an airlock after this stunt. Or at the very least tell her to ♥♥♥♥ off. Heinrix, Argenta, Cassia and Ulfar, are all right about her in the aftermath.

I've seen people try to rationalize excusing by talking about her side of things. But her side of things is still deeply opportunistic behavior that got you tortured and almost killed due to extreme antagonistic behavior and stupidity on her part(oh noes, a glass shard!). From the start she was just using you. And outside of being in a romance with her, shows little to no remorse, even directly stating she'd do it all again. Argenta? Killed a heretic. Simple as. Idira? Can't control her powers but is generally on your side, so if you decide to help her stabilize, its an easy thing to forgive outbursts. Yrliet? Pure opportunism and lack of regard/loyalty for you and your crew and mission.

Romance in this game was a mistake if it turns people into braindead coomers that actually think this deceiving xenos ♥♥♥♥♥ did nothing wrong.

The only "good" reason to excuse her behavior is if you're on your first playthrough and simply want to see everything so you willingly swallow all sense and reason down, so you can see more of the game.

[plasticsoda]

Yep, you're right. Most men are brain-dead coomers and will do anything for a good looking girl. Have you heard of the Illiad? A man will look at beautiful woman and say: ''I'll wage war over that and do the stupidest ♥♥♥♥ ever'', that's how humanity works.

[Lyote]

What the hell kind of dialogue path did you take to get that out of her?

I found Yrliet after the chimera fight being forced to kill beggars by a group of Drukhari.
After intervening and preventing her from giving up, she tells you that the only reason she isn't dead is because her captor thought it'd be fun to see if they could turn her into a Drukhari and shatter her spirit stone through "re-education".

After which, she further explains that she believes the RT had betrayed her first because that "glass shard" you deride is a literal piece of her homeworld and she tells you that here.
Since she doesn't know Theodora, only you, it heavily implies that youve been lying to her and personally had a hand in her homeworlds destruction or at minimum, connected to the ones responsible.

She also tells you how she was able to contact Marazhai to organise the event. By killing Heinrix agent he introduced you to earlier and taking a communication artifact from him.
She even mentions that she took him out before he had a chance to shame himself by betraying you. It was that event combined with seeing the shard of her homeworld that leads her to think you betrayed her.

If you forgive her for it and give her a chance to explain (speak again with her at the pit once you take out Malice) she basically swears total loyalty to you and wants to redeem herself to you and the crew for what she did.
She hates herself for what she did and cant even meditate the way normal Eldar do anymore.

That's why I happen to like her. She had an interesting story arc involving multiple betrayals (starting with her Farseer) that led her down an increasingly desperate path to where she literally broke.

I am genuinely curious how you managed to get what you did out of her story.

[tm0Lif3]

Originally posted by Lyote:

What the hell kind of dialogue path did you take to get that out of her?

I found Yrliet after the chimera fight being forced to kill beggars by a group of Drukhari.
After intervening and preventing her from giving up, she tells you that the only reason she isn't dead is because her captor thought it'd be fun to see if they could turn her into a Drukhari and shatter her spirit stone through "re-education".

After which, she further explains that she believes the RT had betrayed her first because that "glass shard" you deride is a literal piece of her homeworld and she tells you that here.
Since she doesn't know Theodora, only you, it heavily implies that youve been lying to her and personally had a hand in her homeworlds destruction or at minimum, connected to the ones responsible.

She also tells you how she was able to contact Marazhai to organise the event. By killing Heinrix agent he introduced you to earlier and taking a communication artifact from him.
She even mentions that she took him out before he had a chance to shame himself by betraying you. It was that event combined with seeing the shard of her homeworld that leads her to think you betrayed her.

If you forgive her for it and give her a chance to explain (speak again with her at the pit once you take out Malice) she basically swears total loyalty to you and wants to redeem herself to you and the crew for what she did.
She hates herself for what she did and cant even meditate the way normal Eldar do anymore.

That's why I happen to like her. She had an interesting story arc involving multiple betrayals (starting with her Farseer) that led her down an increasingly desperate path to where she literally broke.

I am genuinely curious how you managed to get what you did out of her story.

exactly this. i probably like to romance her instead of cassia on my 2nd PT after DLC. also she's now taken argenta spot. i kinda think argenta was overly nerfed.

[Og-the-Trog]

Originally posted by Lyote:

What the hell kind of dialogue path did you take to get that out of her?
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This.

Everyone was deceived and while she was a fool, many could say the same of the rogue trader for not being more circumspect with their "pet" aeldari after she exhibited those strange behavioral signs in their quarters.

And for her part, she would knowingly sit still while a drukhari haemonculus pushed a sampling needle through her soulstone to make amends for her betrayal. That's basically guaranteeing eternal hell/corruption for herself (or atleast a strong chance of it) because of the guilt she feels.
I'd say that's a PRETTY STRONG showing of contrition on her part.

A rogue trader throwing her to the wolves after encountering her on the streets is entirely justifiable, but a wiser and more patient leader could see how she could be manipulated and the chain of failures that brought the retinue to this fate could have unfolded without trying to hold Yrliet and SOLELY Yrliet responsible for it all.

-the RT had a chunk of Crudarach on his wall
-the RT can be incredibly guileful and crafty, for a mon-keigh, and is not to be underestimated
-the RT offered to help find her family, but all of those efforts were in vain (sometimes painfully so)
-the dark cousin marzipan offered her info if she met at a certain location with a certain representative
-she killed the representative and took control of his means of communication with her dark cousins against the will of his handlers and the RT
-the RT's retinue picked up corrolating reports of xenos activity in the revealed sector
-her first words to the trap-NPCs was "where and how did you make contact with my kin? (aeldari OR drukhari) NOW!"

She was 100% following her path to her kin at all times and the "betrayal" was never intentioned, not while she was unsure of the RT's involvement and not while she had any choice but to comply with the dark ones' whims.

[Flagg]

To Be Unclean

That is the Mark of the Xenos

To Be Impure

That is the Mark of the Xenos

To be Abhorred

That is the Mark of the Xenos

To be Reviled

That is the Mark of the Xenos

To be Hunted

That is the Mark of the Xenos

To be Purged

That is the Fate of the Xenos

To be Cleansed

For that is the Fate of All Xenos

[Flagg]

“Do not ask, ‘Why kill the alien?’ rather ask, ‘Why not?’” - Battle Brother Artemis, Deathwatch.

“We must scour them from the stars before they do the same to us.” - Chaplain Cassius, Ultramarines

"He who allows the alien to live shares in the crime of its existence" - Inquisitor Apollyon, Ordo Xenos

[Pierogolepca]

She's an Eldar, what did you expect? Being an arrogant dumbass is in her genes.

I saved Yrliet and kept her breathing to offer her up to Slaanesh later , heheh

[.//slayer]

I like Yrliet. She is cool.