Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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Jivebot 5 października 2024 o 21:58
So, why does Slaanesh have such a Hate boner for the space elves?
I mean, yeah...they're kind of a buncha A-Holes. But still, it seems a bit odd for one particular Chaos God to have such a specific obsession with one species above all the rest.

What's the deal there? I think I remember Yrliet commenting once that the space elves are somehow responsible for Slaanesh? I assumed all the Chaos Gods were basically eternal, ageless, cosmic entities like most gods in fictional settings.

And what about the Aeldar gods like Laughing God. Is he a Chaos God too or something unique, like the C'Tan?

How do the various Gods rank against each other? Could a C'Tan beat Khorne? Would the Laughing God make Slaanesh his ♥♥♥♥♥(which he/she/it would probably get off on?). Are there other Gods in the Lore we haven't even heard of yet?
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Gamefever 8 października 2024 o 7:06 
Slannesh is the jilted lover of space elves.
Someone had to say it.

Slannesh, oh come on guys I want into the wife swap party. Knock knock knock....

Oh fine I'm going to throw my own hedonistic party, I bet you the Dark Elves are all going to show up, just like all the cool kids. Oh come on guys we're having a great time bathing our Hags in the blood of slaves, your really missing out.

Meanwhile all the Elder are huddled up in fetal position on the other side of the door fighting off a lethal addiction to pleasure that nearly wiped them all out of existence.

Those space elves sure know how to party.
Space Cowboy 8 października 2024 o 7:11 
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The pain they inflict is spiritually hanging around them like an energy shield, masking their soul signature with that of several other races of victims, so Slaanesh has trouble locating them in their raids.
The longer lived they are, the more pain they need to mask the signature, however, until it becomes almost impossible to do so for the majority of them, so their souls start leaking, they grow decrepit as a result, and die being devoured by Slaanesh.

I guess I can...sort of...understand that. At least if the Drukhari are just eating non-Elves.

Like, if Eldar energy is gourmet cuisine, then you "cloak yourself in human pain" so that your energy temporarily looks human. Like covering your scent to avoid being tracked by a predator.

Still it seems counter intuitive that anyone would hide from the Prince of Pain with...pain.

But what about if a Drukhari tortured an Aeldari? Then they'd be wrapped up in Aeldari pain and that would still be a beacon to Slaanesh, right? Am I understanding how this works properly now?
So, as I understand it, as a baseline Slaanesh generally eats at the souls of all Eldar because all Eldar have a very strong natural psychic connection to the warp. So, wherever they are Slaanesh slowly eats on their souls until nothing is left than a soulless husk.
Now there's several ways the several groups of Eldar protect themselfs from that.

The craftworld Eldar use Spirit Stones and if they happen to die, the soul will go into their personal spirit stone instead of going to the warp and if everything goes well, the spirit stone will then be brought to its Eldar Craftworld and be put into its Infinity Circuit which is a save place for their soul to exist so that it won't get sucked up by Slaanesh. Other than that they exercise strong discipline so that their strong feelings don't seep into the warp and feed Slaanesh. For them it is very, very difficult however, since Eldar naturally have very strong emotions and keeping them in check is a lifelong challenge.

The Drukhari however just do the complete opposite and try to fill up their souls with the pain and suffering of others or even create an overflow to satiate Slaanesh. However, when they die, they got no protection whatsoever, so for them it's an instant one way ticket to Slaanesh when that happens. Unless they manage to secure the service of a haemonculi who is able to resurrect the Drukhari after he or she dies even from the slightest piece of their body before their soul goes to Slaanesh. It's kind of Drukhari life ensurance, if you will but only the wealthiest of Drukhari can afford it in the form of many slaves, made during their raids.
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Solarius 8 października 2024 o 7:32 
There's a lot of replies here but i don't know if it was ever mentioned but slannesh's creation wasn't exactly a casual thing, the collective decadence and depravity that lead to the birth of slannesh pretty much fractured reality and caused the eye of terror and the fall of the eldar empire.

As you'd expect the eldar rejects Slannesh and doesn't worship it, so i presume that slannesh is some what butthurt that it is scorned, rejected and abhorred by the race that birthed it.
Gamefever 8 października 2024 o 7:41 
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There's a lot of replies here but i don't know if it was ever mentioned but slannesh's creation wasn't exactly a casual thing, the collective decadence and depravity that lead to the birth of slannesh pretty much fractured reality and caused the eye of terror and the fall of the eldar empire.

As you'd expect the eldar rejects Slannesh and doesn't worship it, so i presume that slannesh is some what butthurt that it is scorned, rejected and abhorred by the race that birthed it.

Correct,

Slannesh was created by Eldarean hedonism.
Hence my comment above.
Space Cowboy 8 października 2024 o 7:44 
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There's a lot of replies here but i don't know if it was ever mentioned but slannesh's creation wasn't exactly a casual thing, the collective decadence and depravity that lead to the birth of slannesh pretty much fractured reality and caused the eye of terror and the fall of the eldar empire.

As you'd expect the eldar rejects Slannesh and doesn't worship it, so i presume that slannesh is some what butthurt that it is scorned, rejected and abhorred by the race that birthed it.
I would presume it's more kinda like an autistic and also not quite self aware way of seeing things. Something like: "Hey, I'm exactly what you guys and girls wished for, so why are you running away, now?"
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Solarius 8 października 2024 o 8:17 
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There's a lot of replies here but i don't know if it was ever mentioned but slannesh's creation wasn't exactly a casual thing, the collective decadence and depravity that lead to the birth of slannesh pretty much fractured reality and caused the eye of terror and the fall of the eldar empire.

As you'd expect the eldar rejects Slannesh and doesn't worship it, so i presume that slannesh is some what butthurt that it is scorned, rejected and abhorred by the race that birthed it.
I would presume it's more kinda like an autistic and also not quite self aware way of seeing things. Something like: "Hey, I'm exactly what you guys and girls wished for, so why are you running away, now?"

I like to think of it as an empire wide post nut clarity, the kind of post nut clarity i'd have as a kid, where you're not supposed to be watching xxx stuff at that age, so right after post nut clarity you'd be like "Oh Lord what is this filth on my screen *close all tabs* ".

And in a way the eldar did technically 'climax', it is simply that they finally saw just how downbad they were and were disgusting by it and projected that disgust on slannesh, to bad everyone on cadia could've seen the stain of their sin.
jonoliveira12 8 października 2024 o 9:30 
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Okay. Weird. Does that mean the other Chaos gods were created too? Like the Orks made Khorne somehow? Who made Tzeetch and Nurgle?
That's right.
The fury of warriors and the "warrior codes" they created created Khorne.
People thirsting for knowledge and experiencing hope - Tzeentch.
Fear of death, pain, disease - Nurgle.
Intemperance of the Eldar - Slaanesh.
The Chaos Gods, except for Slaanesh, always existed. What brought them forth, however, was the War in Heaven, where literally uncountable numbers of sentient being experienced conflict on a galactic scale, with weapons and tactics that have been unmatched since, and troop numbers that would seem infinite by normal standards even for 40K.

The Grim Reaper, for example, is a permanent fixture in every advanced species throughout teh galaxy, because the C'tan god of death whom it represents killed so many people it left a PERMANENT psychic imprint in the universe, during the War in Heaven.
ACEsino 8 października 2024 o 11:42 
Eldar souls are like Wagyu beef and human ones are a gas shop steak that have been sitting on the back of the fridge for months
Space Cowboy 8 października 2024 o 15:43 
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I find it mildly insulting to imply that human debauchery wasn't enough by itself to make Slaanesh.
Not 100% sure about the timeline (everything from that era is kinda muddled anyway) but I think this might have happened around the time of the golden age of humanity. That was a time presumably when the warp was still kinda, sorta balanced and humanity first settled the stars. At the time things were a lot different - closest thing to the Federation from Star Trek you'll ever get in 40k. Humanity was probably overall pretty alright back then with a destinctive lack of skull iconography, a God Emperor, exterminatus, psycher burning, servitor creation (you gotta look that one up - man, that's grim!) and all the other cheerful things humanity does in the current timeline.
Iratebirb 8 października 2024 o 15:54 
Since the Eldar birthed Slaanesh their souls probably taste better,
Hellsteeth30 9 października 2024 o 7:24 
They made him basically, see the Drukhari? All the Eldar were like them basically at one point.

They got bored after the War in Heaven.

When Slaanesh was created the birth screech annihilated nearly all the Elves outside of Cammoragh.

Guess Slaanesh feels it's owed all the souls not just nearly all of them. They're permanently linked to each other.

You know the best way to torture a Drukhari? Lock them in a room by themselves, Slaanesh will soon come to them.
Adventure 9 października 2024 o 9:57 
something else to add to the other chaos gods slanesh has always been a thing and is also a new thing time is odd in the warp
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