Need 3 points of dogmatic before going KG

[mudakonn]

Where can you get 3 points og Dogmatic before Kiava Gamma ( I have done all quests in Footfall, done Janus, Drago and Vheabos) any sidequest what gives 3 Dogmatic or is available in Kiava Gamma itself before final fight?

[Pierogolepca]

Which specific choice do you mean? Cause there will be several opportunities for Dogmatic points on Kiava Gamma.

[mudakonn]

Originally posted by Pierogolepca:

Which specific choice do you mean? Cause there will be several opportunities for Dogmatic points on Kiava Gamma.

OK, at the same time I want to harvest max heretic points, so if i can take heretic option i will take it first. Just need 3 points for lvl2 dogmatic and then i will stop dogmatic

I dont remember if infected Magos gave dogmatic points best would be some sidequest what would give needed points so I would do it before going to Kiava

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by mudakonn:

Originally posted by Pierogolepca:

Which specific choice do you mean? Cause there will be several opportunities for Dogmatic points on Kiava Gamma.

OK, at the same time I want to harvest max heretic points, so if i can take heretic option i will take it first. Just need 3 points for lvl2 dogmatic and then i will stop dogmatic

I dont remember if infected Magos gave dogmatic points best would be some sidequest what would give needed points so I would do it before going to Kiava

u will miss out on the very important heretic stuff in lategame if u dont min max that

[mudakonn]

I have only taken one time dogmatic over heretic where it just did not seem right in Vheabos - right now n act 2 before Kiava my heretic score is a bit over 100. But OK, i just delay Kiava a bit with sidequests then until i will find points. Or just forfeit that sweet extra AP from there?

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by mudakonn:

I have only taken one time dogmatic over heretic where it just did not seem right in Vheabos - right now n act 2 before Kiava my heretic score is a bit over 100. But OK, i just delay Kiava a bit with sidequests then until i will find points. Or just forfeit that sweet extra AP from there?

dont wanna spoil anything but i couldnt get a secret char because i didnt had enough points but took every point for heretic i could find.seems like u have to take like every single possible dialogue heretic option to get the 2 secret chars. typical owlcat

[mudakonn]

I really like heretic roleplay because of one character - Heinrix. Too bad that playing dogmatic there is no direct opposite opinion among your party - like some naive Iconoclast character. Abelard falls really short in that department, i dont even know why he has 2 Iconoclast levels at all

But it is OK - they will release more DLC and more options to get points. Like with Wrath DLC-s

[Pierogolepca]

Think one of the devs already confirmed they're working to increase the current Conviction rewards as well as introduce new opportunities.

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by Pierogolepca:

Think one of the devs already confirmed they're working to increase the current Conviction rewards as well as introduce new opportunities.

Yeah we only have to wait like 3 months so they chnage some numbers. half of the systems in this game are halfbaked

[Ammo Donkey]

Just use toybox to hit the thresholds...

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by Gak:

Just use toybox to hit the thresholds...

couldnt find it anywhere to up the hereticthreshhold and maybe we dont need modes so the game works as it should

[Ammo Donkey]

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

couldnt find it anywhere to up the hereticthreshhold and maybe we dont need modes so the game works as it should

...the game does work as it should. You can finish the game with maxed out standing without having to resort to mods. I did it. And having to focus on one outcome if you want its best outcome seems like... it would be expected from a CRPG? But the toybox is there if you don't want to play the game like the developers want you to. Which is great.

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by Gak:

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

couldnt find it anywhere to up the hereticthreshhold and maybe we dont need modes so the game works as it should

...the game does work as it should. You can finish the game with maxed out standing without having to resort to mods. I did it. And having to focus on one outcome if you want its best outcome seems like... it would be expected from a CRPG? But the toybox is there if you don't want to play the game like the developers want you to. Which is great.

^then u are one of the lucky gamers because many people didnt get all of the optinal dialogues so they cant max it

[Pierogolepca]

I managed to hit the Hereticus threshold to rank 5 a short while before the key choice in Act 4 ending. This was my 2nd run and I was picking the vast majority of Hereticus choices. What really surprised me how many there actually were and how many I initially missed.

But I definitely agree that some of the most heretical choices should award you with more points.

[Ammo Donkey]

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

^then u are one of the lucky gamers because many people didnt get all of the optinal dialogues so they cant max it

So people skipped stuff and missed out. What's your point?

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by Gak:

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

^then u are one of the lucky gamers because many people didnt get all of the optinal dialogues so they cant max it

So people skipped stuff and missed out. What's your point?

hidden option are not missing.... u really think people should reload 500 dialogues the find the hidden option or are u just to arrogant to see the problem with hidden things for the core roleplayaspect of the game. u have to kill a whole planet and because of that u will prick all other plantes for endgamebuildings