Overpowered classes/characters

[Olter]

Cassia. Completely busted from the very beginning. HIMG has 100% hitrate, no reload, usable up to 3 times during a turn? And during a extra turn can be used twice, and used as many times as there is AP during heroic extra turns. Insane damage. Utterly bonkers.

Idira. Idira scales off the charts at act 3 or so, AoE staff was dealing at best 900+ damage to a guy during an AoE attack. But that is more so unsanctioned psyker as a class in general with the right items more than idira herself.

No matter what I was doing with any other classes I couldnt get anywhere close to those numbers (until I bought the double barrel shotgun which has 100% hitrate which means it crits pretty much every single time, totally busted OP)

[provokastoras]

hm officers are the most overpowered class tbh... their ability to always go first and their class ulti that allows to attack without cooldown can make everything broken. eg imagine yriet on backline with attack cost reduction in a backline getting the ulti from an officer allowing her to empty all her equiped weapons on the spot...

[provokastoras]

And idira outdpses casisa up to round six from the prolog

[stax]

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"High-priority problem list (to be fixed as soon as possible):

* Combat and ability balance, builds with crazy performance, undertuned and overtuned encounters;"
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From the patch roadmap post up above. They are aware.

[Olter]

Originally posted by stax:

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"High-priority problem list (to be fixed as soon as possible):

* Combat and ability balance, builds with crazy performance, undertuned and overtuned encounters;"
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From the patch roadmap post up above. They are aware.

Well they should be the games been out for 4 months lmao

[Sir Snuffles]

Originally posted by Olter Jomha:

Cassia. Completely busted from the very beginning. HIMG has 100% hitrate, no reload, usable up to 3 times during a turn? And during a extra turn can be used twice, and used as many times as there is AP during heroic extra turns. Insane damage. Utterly bonkers.

Idira. Idira scales off the charts at act 3 or so, AoE staff was dealing at best 900+ damage to a guy during an AoE attack. But that is more so unsanctioned psyker as a class in general with the right items more than idira herself.

No matter what I was doing with any other classes I couldnt get anywhere close to those numbers (until I bought the double barrel shotgun which has 100% hitrate which means it crits pretty much every single time, totally busted OP)

i agree cassia is crazy strong as a companion you get early game, but how do you make her attack 3 times in a turn? have i missed a useful ability while leveling her up lol.

I've just been using that huge cone aoe attack to wipe out hordes of low hp mobs

[Hidetsugu]

Originally posted by Sir Snuffles:

i agree cassia is crazy strong as a companion you get early game, but how do you make her attack 3 times in a turn? have i missed a useful ability while leveling her up lol.

I've just been using that huge cone aoe attack to wipe out hordes of low hp mobs

1st - normal turn
2nd - extra turn from Officer MC
3rd - In the Hero's Footsteps - Master Tactician trait
^ Is what I suspect. As for me, Cassia is really strong early game, because she ignores armor and dodge, still strong mid and late game, However with good builds, in the late game the rest of the party can be much deadlier than her. Her real advantage is in the simplicity of use - with the right build she can be both tank, support, cc-er and dps all in 1, while the other need to drop 1-3 out of these to excel in the rest.
That is why I do not bother listing anything. Most characters/classes can be OP, if you build them right.

[Olter]

Originally posted by Sir Snuffles:

Originally posted by Olter Jomha:

Cassia. Completely busted from the very beginning. HIMG has 100% hitrate, no reload, usable up to 3 times during a turn? And during a extra turn can be used twice, and used as many times as there is AP during heroic extra turns. Insane damage. Utterly bonkers.

Idira. Idira scales off the charts at act 3 or so, AoE staff was dealing at best 900+ damage to a guy during an AoE attack. But that is more so unsanctioned psyker as a class in general with the right items more than idira herself.

No matter what I was doing with any other classes I couldnt get anywhere close to those numbers (until I bought the double barrel shotgun which has 100% hitrate which means it crits pretty much every single time, totally busted OP)

i agree cassia is crazy strong as a companion you get early game, but how do you make her attack 3 times in a turn? have i missed a useful ability while leveling her up lol.

I've just been using that huge cone aoe attack to wipe out hordes of low hp mobs

Held in my gaze costs 1 AP and has a 100% hitrate. You can cast it twice in a turn(though the turns get confusing after a while when you can give turns with regular abilities then the heroic extra turns as well.) The cone is good for large groups, but against sparse enemies with higher HP held in my gaze deals far more damage. During heroic turns you can cast held in my gaze as many times as you have AP.

Then you have the movement abilities although they nerfed that one quite severely (it used to give extra damage for every tile moved which made it really useful now it basically caps at 20 which is not very useful.)

[dwarfpcfan]

Cassia is insanely good since she can be as tanky as ulfar while being completely untouchable, have regen and do insane damage along with being one probably the best support/buffer of all your party members.

Idira can be risky because of her higher chance of perils of the warp. But she also comes great at both damage dealing and buffing including a lot of passive buffs from her divination psyker talets. and she can rack up insane levels of area damage

Yrlet as an assassin spec is basically an auto delete on any thing she shoots. built properly she can 1 shot bosses and do it over and over again. As an example Yrmiss in Cormoragg has something like 1100 HP. Yrlet by that time average 1300 to 1800 on a single shot using the eye of Hecaton before any other multipliers from buffs from other party members, this is just her using an opening and her own class abilities

Jae is also horribly overpowered as a master tactician with her eldar pistols, not only can she constantly output hundreds upon hundreds of points of damage in a cone that inflict bleeding and toxic, but she's an officer so she can buff other party members as well.

[Red Star, Blood Moon]

Originally posted by provokastoras:

And idira outdpses casisa up to round six from the prolog

Cassia outclasses when you first get her, but once you start getting talents stacking added damage off each other Idira is hilariously busted since level 8 or less. I cannot for the life of me fathom why any fool would be taking Heinrix of all people, or acting like Argenta or Abelard is remotely comparable to a psyker. Cassia as officer and Idira as psyker is what makes it so much more hilariously busted but especially when you run officer as your character, I give Cassia and Idira immediate busted ass zeroday AoE. Literally, you can nuke 4 dudes off the map with Idira alone before they ever have a chance to get a shot off using lightning staff after a Seize the Initiative+Bring it Down.

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

Cassia is insanely good since she can be as tanky as ulfar while being completely untouchable, have regen and do insane damage along with being one probably the best support/buffer of all your party members.

Idira can be risky because of her higher chance of perils of the warp. But she also comes great at both damage dealing and buffing including a lot of passive buffs from her divination psyker talets. and she can rack up insane levels of area damage

Yrlet as an assassin spec is basically an auto delete on any thing she shoots. built properly she can 1 shot bosses and do it over and over again. As an example Yrmiss in Cormoragg has something like 1100 HP. Yrlet by that time average 1300 to 1800 on a single shot using the eye of Hecaton before any other multipliers from buffs from other party members, this is just her using an opening and her own class abilities

Jae is also horribly overpowered as a master tactician with her eldar pistols, not only can she constantly output hundreds upon hundreds of points of damage in a cone that inflict bleeding and toxic, but she's an officer so she can buff other party members as well.

Originally posted by Olter Jomha:

Originally posted by Sir Snuffles:

i agree cassia is crazy strong as a companion you get early game, but how do you make her attack 3 times in a turn? have i missed a useful ability while leveling her up lol.

I've just been using that huge cone aoe attack to wipe out hordes of low hp mobs

Held in my gaze costs 1 AP and has a 100% hitrate. You can cast it twice in a turn(though the turns get confusing after a while when you can give turns with regular abilities then the heroic extra turns as well.) The cone is good for large groups, but against sparse enemies with higher HP held in my gaze deals far more damage. During heroic turns you can cast held in my gaze as many times as you have AP.

Then you have the movement abilities although they nerfed that one quite severely (it used to give extra damage for every tile moved which made it really useful now it basically caps at 20 which is not very useful.)

Psychic Scream is even better I'm not even kidding, HIMG doesn't even stack damage like Psychic Scream. If you built Idira up this is before even hitting Tier 2 careers/archetypes, I had her doing like 82 damage before even hitting CSM Aurora with Psychic Scream. Cassia is indeed tanky af, because the Strange Vitality stacks so hard with trash mobs.

[Olter]

Originally posted by Red Star, Blood Moon:

Originally posted by provokastoras:

And idira outdpses casisa up to round six from the prolog

Cassia outclasses when you first get her, but once you start getting talents stacking added damage off each other Idira is hilariously busted since level 8 or less. I cannot for the life of me fathom why any fool would be taking Heinrix of all people, or acting like Argenta or Abelard is remotely comparable to a psyker. Cassia as officer and Idira as psyker is what makes it so much more hilariously busted but especially when you run officer as your character, I give Cassia and Idira immediate busted ass zeroday AoE. Literally, you can nuke 4 dudes off the map with Idira alone before they ever have a chance to get a shot off using lightning staff after a Seize the Initiative+Bring it Down.

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

Cassia is insanely good since she can be as tanky as ulfar while being completely untouchable, have regen and do insane damage along with being one probably the best support/buffer of all your party members.

Idira can be risky because of her higher chance of perils of the warp. But she also comes great at both damage dealing and buffing including a lot of passive buffs from her divination psyker talets. and she can rack up insane levels of area damage

Yrlet as an assassin spec is basically an auto delete on any thing she shoots. built properly she can 1 shot bosses and do it over and over again. As an example Yrmiss in Cormoragg has something like 1100 HP. Yrlet by that time average 1300 to 1800 on a single shot using the eye of Hecaton before any other multipliers from buffs from other party members, this is just her using an opening and her own class abilities

Jae is also horribly overpowered as a master tactician with her eldar pistols, not only can she constantly output hundreds upon hundreds of points of damage in a cone that inflict bleeding and toxic, but she's an officer so she can buff other party members as well.

Originally posted by Olter Jomha:

Held in my gaze costs 1 AP and has a 100% hitrate. You can cast it twice in a turn(though the turns get confusing after a while when you can give turns with regular abilities then the heroic extra turns as well.) The cone is good for large groups, but against sparse enemies with higher HP held in my gaze deals far more damage. During heroic turns you can cast held in my gaze as many times as you have AP.

Then you have the movement abilities although they nerfed that one quite severely (it used to give extra damage for every tile moved which made it really useful now it basically caps at 20 which is not very useful.)

Psychic Scream is even better I'm not even kidding, HIMG doesn't even stack damage like Psychic Scream. If you built Idira up this is before even hitting Tier 2 careers/archetypes, I had her doing like 82 damage before even hitting CSM Aurora with Psychic Scream. Cassia is indeed tanky af, because the Strange Vitality stacks so hard with trash mobs.

Agreed psychic scream is insane. Im pretty sure they nerfed the damage calculation for cassia at some point, because at launch the damage she dealt was considerably higher, but she is still by far the most powerful at early game

[moysha]

my melee archmilitant biomancer is OP as hell, parries everything, crits like crazy, acts 5 times per round after activating his heroic act. Same with heavy bolter Argenta/Ulfar, even more attacks per round.

[provokastoras]

not true at all the first attack of casia does 30-40 damage and before tactician levels remains stable and aoe psychic scream with aftershock and fresh targets psychic scream does the same but with aftersock it becomes 50 =60, and freash wounds +-70 further more idira has the ability to spread overkills to the closest enemies. in all idira doing 2 psycking screams in a round the first round grossly outdpses casia doing 2 gazes. until casusa gets her tactician class and stuck up some tactician stacks to increase her damage + some devastation she is still behind usually she gets enough resourses to outdps idira after 6 casts.
so in any fight that is gonna last longe than that casia is better.
further more idira falls a bit behind as neither assasing nor strategist directly improve her own damage. in the dramatic way that casia''s dps increases due to tactician stucks however... she remains relevant due her higher psy rating. in all in short fights i prefer to give the extra turns to idira cause they usually end before casisa goes supersayan. if i see opponets with 10 k hp i know i need to get casia buffed so i start with her instead.

[Cdubbs]

They all seem potentially overpowered, I'm not sure when the challenge is going to kick in. Just started Act 3, the hardest boss for me was Aurora but I still haven't had a single full party wipe yet.

[Cdubbs]

Idira seems the most powerful to me with certain items. I have something that increases her PR everytime perils of the warp is triggered. Combine that with the Heretic bonus momentum for increasing veil degradation, combat for me is a race to increase veil degradation. Somehow tripled her PR in one fight, she killed the entire encounter in one turn lol.