Drukhari/Aeldari Equipment Talents

[ChompyRiley]

Does this mean I can somehow get to equip their stuff on my MC now since there's talents for it? Or is it only so that Yrliet and Marzipan can equip each other's stuff and do that 'sharing' thing the Tau are always on about? 'Cause if I can go full xenoheresy on my RT, I will. 'cause some of that Drukhari armor looks GNARLY.

[Lungbutter]

Originally posted by Sliscus:

Originally posted by Lungbutter:

Humans have different size hands and feet, but the proportions are universal enough to where it's just small / medium / large etc.

But you're saying the proportions for the xenos hands and feet is the same as humans? Not slender, or super long fingers, the feet aren't long and slender etc?

To illustrate what I'm talking about with a real life example - look at a human hand next to chipanzee hands. link [www.bing.com]

Obviously a chipanzee isn't a xeno, but we both have fingers and thumbs, hands and feet.

I wouldn't expect a chipanzee to be able to wear human gloves. So I would imagine a human would have a similar rough time trying to wear xeno gloves or boots.

It's not about the inventory of fingers, thumnbs, feet and toes. It's about the proportions that are giving me doubt. But you're saying they should fit? Am I mistaken?

EDIT: On top of my own anatomy guessing, there's also a possible lore reason discussed here. https://steamcommunity.com/app/2186680/discussions/0/7139958293839726266/

Are you pretending shoe sizes aren't a thing or...?

Nope. Are you?

[Demon of Razgriz]

How do people ignore the fact that Drukhari armor is designed to cause the wearer extreme pain constantly? Why would anyone want to wear that?

[echoes222]

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

How do people ignore the fact that Drukhari armor is designed to cause the wearer extreme pain constantly? Why would anyone want to wear that?

because they could, so they would. And there is no reason not to.

[Demon of Razgriz]

Originally posted by echoes222:

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

How do people ignore the fact that Drukhari armor is designed to cause the wearer extreme pain constantly? Why would anyone want to wear that?

because they could, so they would. And there is no reason not to.

So you would be OK with wearing armor that literally rips your skin open and causes extreme pain every moment?

[echoes222]

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

Originally posted by echoes222:

because they could, so they would. And there is no reason not to.

So you would be OK with wearing armor that literally rips your skin open and causes extreme pain every moment?

some people would

[Sliscus]

Originally posted by Lungbutter:

Originally posted by Sliscus:

Are you pretending shoe sizes aren't a thing or...?

Nope. Are you?

No.

So why is it reasonable that Jae, Abelard, the RT, Pasqual, Idira, Cassia, and Heinrix all magically share the same shoe and glove size, but a deldar and and eldar's incredibly human like physiology is simply "too alien" to allow one to wear the a human's boots or vice versa.


it makes more sense from a gameplay balance perspective, you get certain advantages and disadvantages as a Xenos vs a human and maybe you don't want players stacking certain stats or talents with certain equipment. Or in a tabletop setting, you want to limit one players options or guarantee that player gets some intended loot.

But in the CRPG where players will typically trend towards optimising the active party's gear as a whole, instead of individual players seeing gear as belonging to their individual character, only the former reason makes sense, but I don't see any interaction between a given pair of boots and one of Marazhai or Yrliet's abilities that would break combat or ability checks for that character in a way it can't be done for any other party member.

[Sliscus]

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

Originally posted by echoes222:

because they could, so they would. And there is no reason not to.

So you would be OK with wearing armor that literally rips your skin open and causes extreme pain every moment?

Imperial fists literally wear pain-gloves to meditate. Iron hands amputate their hands, Chaos cultists mutilate their bodies all the time.

[Lungbutter]

Originally posted by Sliscus:

Originally posted by Lungbutter:

Nope. Are you?

No.

So why is it reasonable that Jae, Abelard, the RT, Pasqual, Idira, Cassia, and Heinrix all magically share the same shoe and glove size, but a deldar and and eldar's incredibly human like physiology is simply "too alien" to allow one to wear the a human's boots or vice versa.


it makes more sense from a gameplay balance perspective, you get certain advantages and disadvantages as a Xenos vs a human and maybe you don't want players stacking certain stats or talents with certain equipment. Or in a tabletop setting, you want to limit one players options or guarantee that player gets some intended loot.

But in the CRPG where players will typically trend towards optimising the active party's gear as a whole, instead of individual players seeing gear as belonging to their individual character, only the former reason makes sense, but I don't see any interaction between a given pair of boots and one of Marazhai or Yrliet's abilities that would break combat or ability checks for that character in a way it can't be done for any other party member.

I don't know what to tell you man. Just download a mod that removes all requirements from all armor and enjoy the game I guess. I can only entertain the "nuh uh, it don't make sense" dilemma you're so entrenched in. :p

[Sliscus]

Originally posted by Lungbutter:

Originally posted by Sliscus:

No.

So why is it reasonable that Jae, Abelard, the RT, Pasqual, Idira, Cassia, and Heinrix all magically share the same shoe and glove size, but a deldar and and eldar's incredibly human like physiology is simply "too alien" to allow one to wear the a human's boots or vice versa.


it makes more sense from a gameplay balance perspective, you get certain advantages and disadvantages as a Xenos vs a human and maybe you don't want players stacking certain stats or talents with certain equipment. Or in a tabletop setting, you want to limit one players options or guarantee that player gets some intended loot.

But in the CRPG where players will typically trend towards optimising the active party's gear as a whole, instead of individual players seeing gear as belonging to their individual character, only the former reason makes sense, but I don't see any interaction between a given pair of boots and one of Marazhai or Yrliet's abilities that would break combat or ability checks for that character in a way it can't be done for any other party member.

I don't know what to tell you man. Just download a mod that removes all requirements from all armor and enjoy the game I guess. I can only entertain the "nuh uh, it don't make sense" dilemma you're so entrenched in. :p

I'm good, actually, it's just a art of the game that does nothing to service the narrative or gameplay.

[Demon of Razgriz]

Originally posted by Sliscus:

Originally posted by Lungbutter:

I don't know what to tell you man. Just download a mod that removes all requirements from all armor and enjoy the game I guess. I can only entertain the "nuh uh, it don't make sense" dilemma you're so entrenched in. :p

I'm good, actually, it's just a art of the game that does nothing to service the narrative or gameplay.

It does serve the narrative, drukhari armor is literally torturing the wearer while you are wearing it. Only a drukhari would WANT to wear it.

Aeldari armor has psychic stuff that a non-aeldari would not be able to access, but I don't know as much about that.

[ChompyRiley]

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

Only a drukhari would WANT to wear it.

Says you.

[Demon of Razgriz]

Originally posted by ChompyRiley:

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

Only a drukhari would WANT to wear it.

Says you.

I don't think you quite understand how bad it is. This is not some BDSM thing, this is literally 24/7 equivalent to needles shoved under your fingernails, serrated needles shoved into your gums (a drukhari in the game does this during a conversation), flesh literally being ripped off your body pain for 24/7. Only the most psychopathic pain obsessed human that can't even function in normal society MIGHT be ok with it but I seriously doubt it.

[Sliscus]

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

Originally posted by Sliscus:

I'm good, actually, it's just a art of the game that does nothing to service the narrative or gameplay.

It does serve the narrative, drukhari armor is literally torturing the wearer while you are wearing it. Only a drukhari would WANT to wear it.

Aeldari armor has psychic stuff that a non-aeldari would not be able to access, but I don't know as much about that.

yes, but why can't they use the human gear?

[ChompyRiley]

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

Originally posted by ChompyRiley:

Says you.

I don't think you quite understand how bad it is. This is not some BDSM thing, this is literally 24/7 equivalent to needles shoved under your fingernails, serrated needles shoved into your gums (a drukhari in the game does this during a conversation), flesh literally being ripped off your body pain for 24/7. Only the most psychopathic pain obsessed human that can't even function in normal society MIGHT be ok with it but I seriously doubt it.

I don't think YOU understand how freaky some people are.

[Demon of Razgriz]

Originally posted by ChompyRiley:

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

I don't think you quite understand how bad it is. This is not some BDSM thing, this is literally 24/7 equivalent to needles shoved under your fingernails, serrated needles shoved into your gums (a drukhari in the game does this during a conversation), flesh literally being ripped off your body pain for 24/7. Only the most psychopathic pain obsessed human that can't even function in normal society MIGHT be ok with it but I seriously doubt it.

I don't think YOU understand how freaky some people are.

They aren't that freaky. I can guarantee you that.

This is Warhammer 40k. EVERYTHING in the universe is dialed up to beyond what we have any real world reference for. Even my example would be mild compared to what it is really doing.