Owlcat, just make Heinrix bi.

[May XD]

After seeing this thread on how it's okay to be gay in Imperium, I can't help but think - yeah, sure, it's okay. But then your only option as a gay man is Marazhai.
And don't get me wrong, I love Marazhai, but it's a bit of an extreme one to be the only choice. I mean lesbian women at least get Jae along with Yrliet?

Heinrix would be PERFECT for m/m romance. Also, would give me an option to keep him as a heretic, which I want.

Tbh limiting sexuality is extremely outdated, I understand how it works in real life, but in video games it just feels like limiting rp options for no reason.

Kindest regards~

[Simocrates]

Oh boy, DA2 Anders was Gale on steroids.

[jonoliveira12]

Origineel geplaatst door Sliscus:

Origineel geplaatst door Kerillian:

I'm not referring to you, im referring to the OG post that OP made. which my point still stands. Your savefile your headcannon, but its not the cannon that the devs intended. Which is fine. At least you are happy.

Not really, I'd prefer more inclusive romance options and not making the only gay romance option a BDSM sweatgoblin from assault-land

That is solved by adding more characters, not making every character a bisexual, MC lust fiend.

[Horus Blackheart]

Ferris was horrible too. In fact the entire game needs shot in to a sun. Yet devs are still using the bioware romance/ quest design template. Thus we keep having crappy options so no one is happy.

[jonoliveira12]

Origineel geplaatst door Horus Blackheart:

Ferris was horrible too. In fact the entire game needs shot in to a sun. Yet devs are still using the bioware romance/ quest design template. Thus we keep having crappy options so no one is happy.

Maybe no romances is a better solution.

[Turgius]

The Forgotten Realms is a whole-together different setting, which clearly started out as Ed Greenwood's 'magical realm.' Same with Pathfinder, where everything is bi until proven otherwise, which Owlcat had no issues writing characters for, including respecting the intentions behind those in the original AP. However, Owlcat supports the modding community and approves of Toybox, so it's really a non-nonissue and doesn't warrant demanding that a character be rewritten from how the writers envisioned them in the story. I'm sure they will probably introduce another in a future DLC. However, romance is clearly not the creative or marketing facet of this game like BG3, where you can see people on the sub-reddit proudly announcing their first virtual pegging. Nor should it be.

[Бри.Уч.Кол.Мощ]

How bout we remove any characteristics and make everyone a grey voiceless npc so the player can imagine and rp anything they want (in their head) unrestricted by anything. Wowie, i would love to dig in into that!

[Horus Blackheart]

Origineel geplaatst door better than u:

How bout we remove any characteristics and make everyone a grey voiceless npc so the player can imagine and rp anything they want (in their head) unrestricted by anything. Wowie, i would love to dig in into that!

it worked in icewindale and any game prior to 1992.

[Turgius]

Origineel geplaatst door Horus Blackheart:

Origineel geplaatst door better than u:

How bout we remove any characteristics and make everyone a grey voiceless npc so the player can imagine and rp anything they want (in their head) unrestricted by anything. Wowie, i would love to dig in into that!

it worked in icewindale and any game prior to 1992.

Come to think of it; I think Ice Wind Dale II had more background reactivity than Rouge Trader, anyhow.

[jonoliveira12]

Origineel geplaatst door Horus Blackheart:

Origineel geplaatst door better than u:

How bout we remove any characteristics and make everyone a grey voiceless npc so the player can imagine and rp anything they want (in their head) unrestricted by anything. Wowie, i would love to dig in into that!

it worked in icewindale and any game prior to 1992.

Icewind Dale was a different kind of RPG. It was combat heavy, and made for people like me, who would not roleplay much, and would instead wargame with the system.

I actually liked IWD more than BG, because of that. Sometimes, I just want a purely min-maxed party, a lot of tough enemies, and deathtrap rooms.

Having an entire custom designed party of mercenaries, who are in it for the money, fame and loot, and are all ultra-specialists that are really good at their roles, was a great dynamic.

Nowadays people no longer much play D&D like that, but back in the 3ed days, you could often find tables where that was the experience you would get.

[JimmysTheBestCop]

Heinrix is a zaddy

[Бри.Уч.Кол.Мощ]

Origineel geplaatst door Horus Blackheart:

Origineel geplaatst door better than u:

How bout we remove any characteristics and make everyone a grey voiceless npc so the player can imagine and rp anything they want (in their head) unrestricted by anything. Wowie, i would love to dig in into that!

it worked in icewindale and any game prior to 1992.

Stellaris better Rogue Trader RPG than Rogue Trader by Owlcat TM?

[Doctor Zalgo]

Origineel geplaatst door May XD:

I hate to bring it up, but characters in bg3 being player-sexual didn't make them any less fun or full of personality, and they are only more popular for it.

Giving people more options is always better, especially when it comes to something as flighty as romance. If people are willing to say that romance shouldn't matter much as a whole, since it's not even a major part of the game - they why not make it a bit less limited?

Actually, it does undermine the illusion that they're their own characters rather than just digital puppets for the player. We want more characters that have their own unique set of equities, personality traits and their own sexuality is far better than going '♥♥♥♥ it, they will be whatever the player wants'. As a side effect, you also get better written romances (as a rule, obviously Starfield is not the exemplar here).

Note that I'm not arguing that Henrix shouldn't be gay (or even bi), just that you shouldn't make him playersexual. If you were doing a character pass as part of operation 'add more characters to the game', he'd be a good candidate for canonically being bi. Or Aberlard. Its long past time helped him get back into the dating game and he does give off big DILF energy.

PS: Your initial premise that 'giving people more options' is always better is drawn from the same well as 'the customer is always right' and we all know how true that is. Good art comes from constraints, and actually having to think about how a characters preferences might have shaped their life will always be better than writing the character without knowing what those preferences might be.

PPS: Re BG3: Downbad playersexual Gale who was broken and aggressively inviting everyone to come and look at some magic was hilarious and is now canon as far as I'm concerned.

[Horus Blackheart]

Origineel geplaatst door jonoliveira12:

Origineel geplaatst door Horus Blackheart:

it worked in icewindale and any game prior to 1992.

Icewind Dale was a different kind of RPG. It was combat heavy, and made for people like me, who would not roleplay much, and would instead wargame with the system.

I actually liked IWD more than BG, because of that. Sometimes, I just want a purely min-maxed party, a lot of tough enemies, and deathtrap rooms.

Having an entire custom designed party of mercenaries, who are in it for the money, fame and loot, and are all ultra-specialists that are really good at their roles, was a great dynamic.

Nowadays people no longer much play D&D like that, but back in the 3ed days, you could often find tables where that was the experience you would get.

I much prefer 3.5 and older to anything crapped out now pathfinder included that just bad.

[jonoliveira12]

Origineel geplaatst door Horus Blackheart:

Origineel geplaatst door jonoliveira12:

Icewind Dale was a different kind of RPG. It was combat heavy, and made for people like me, who would not roleplay much, and would instead wargame with the system.

I actually liked IWD more than BG, because of that. Sometimes, I just want a purely min-maxed party, a lot of tough enemies, and deathtrap rooms.

Having an entire custom designed party of mercenaries, who are in it for the money, fame and loot, and are all ultra-specialists that are really good at their roles, was a great dynamic.

Nowadays people no longer much play D&D like that, but back in the 3ed days, you could often find tables where that was the experience you would get.

I much prefer 3.5 and older to anything crapped out now pathfinder included that just bad.

Pathfinder is ok. PF1ed is just 3.5 with some extra changes.

I agree that 4ed and 5ed D&D dumbed down the game too hard, to make it more accessible, and make sessions shorter.

[RavenBiscuit2004]

Make this character bisexual, I want to romance the big angry battle nun, let me have sexual relations with the mechanical man, Is the 40K community just an extension of Reddit now?

The romances are fine as is. Playersexual characters belong in D&D where nothing matters and anything goes.