Is Pasqual Common Talent tree bugged ?

[Iksos]

Hello, is it just me or you can't pick pasqual origin talent when you select a common talent ? Sure, you can pick it in class talent, but isn't it the point of common talent ? Being able to max what make a character unique ? ^^

[corisai]

Pascal unique Adeptus Mechanicus abilities threated like Psyker special talents - so should be picked only as main talent.

Pascal ORIGIN talents are free to be picked as common talents.

[=DeadShot=]

Yes Pasqal unique adeptus Mechanicus talents are in competition with his main talents . They cannot be picked as common talent. Not a bug.
Unlike Cassia Nav tallents that can be picked by all.

[Kekuy]

Originally posted by corisai:

Pascal unique Adeptus Mechanicus abilities threated like Psyker special talents - so should be picked only as main talent.

Pascal ORIGIN talents are free to be picked as common talents.

Psyker special talents can be picked as common however and Pasqal's should be too.

[REhorror]

It's weird yeah, unlike Cassia.

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by Kekuy:

Originally posted by corisai:

Pascal unique Adeptus Mechanicus abilities threated like Psyker special talents - so should be picked only as main talent.

Pascal ORIGIN talents are free to be picked as common talents.

Psyker special talents can be picked as common however and Pasqal's should be too.

It is a weird design decision but not a bug. Because the talents are too powerful to allow to be picked as common talents(like single shot plasma attack for 0 AP and you make 11 attacks in a turn). I think Marazhai unique abilities are the same.

[AlexD]

It's weird inconsistency and I agree, I don't see any reason his abilities being treated differently as Cassia's abilities for example. Either you allow unique abilities to be picked as common talents or you don't. My gut feeling says that it actually works as intended for Pasqual and is bugged for everyone else (i.e. unique character traits should not be treated as common traits), we'll see how it goes

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by AlexD:

It's weird inconsistency and I agree, I don't see any reason his abilities being treated differently as Cassia's abilities for example. Either you allow unique abilities to be picked as common talents or you don't. My gut feeling says that it actually works as intended for Pasqual and is bugged for everyone else (i.e. unique character traits should not be treated as common traits), we'll see how it goes

I don't Cassia talents be relegated to non common talents(it will generate more a backlash).
But outside Cassia player specific talents(like Marazhai, Yrilet ,Pasqal) only Pasqal talents I think are powerful enough so the game dev will make you hard choose between class talents and Mechanicus talents. If I don't mistake I think also Yrliet talents are only for normal talents and not common specific ones.

[REhorror]

I think there would be a lot of balancing if Cassia's talents apply the same rule (i.e. not available in common talents).
They are clearly psyker talents and should be as classified as should.

And yes I know this is gonna nerf Cassia, but I will use my dear princess novitor regardless anyhow.

[corisai]

My guess - devs initially had plans for dedicated AM class but either discarded that idea or it was cut due to budget issues.

So Pascal talents are remains of that archetype-would-be.

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by Kekuy:

Originally posted by corisai:

Pascal unique Adeptus Mechanicus abilities threated like Psyker special talents - so should be picked only as main talent.

Pascal ORIGIN talents are free to be picked as common talents.

Psyker special talents can be picked as common however and Pasqal's should be too.

The passives yes, but not the skills. His AdMech skills and talents are all treated the same as the psyker skills, and only pickable on the "major" nodes.

Originally posted by REhorror:

It's weird yeah, unlike Cassia.

Cassia's Navigator Powers compete with her archetype skills, it's just her passive talents that are common. It's just like Psykers.