let the cycle be discontinued QUEST question

[wei270]

can you tell pascal to keep the knowledge or does it always end one way???

[Kid Gloves]

I got presented with options. It probably depends on many factors, not the least of which is whether the machine spirit of the game likes you today.

[BlazingScribe]

As I understand it, you can have Pasqal, or the knowledge but not both. The way you get Pasqal is him purging his memory banks I think.

I don't know for sure because he was pretty determined to make the best of this situation, and I'm not sure I could have talked him down even if I had wanted to.

[sahardima]

You can both, but it will be not a happy ending for him and Abel. In toybox check for ego flags. Your answers have to push him into selfish disire for knowledge.

[LIBRA]

if you go into toybox > search n pick > click on flags on the left side and then on the right search for pasqal, you can see 3 different counters, Amarnath , ego and loyal, these counters change his decision i believe, atleast i worked for me, im not sure however which one is the best in the end.

[Cyroy]

I let Pasqal decide and he decided to reform Amaranth. After which he told me that despite having recovered his entire personality, Pasqal will still be an important part of him and is thankful for the help I've offered and he'd stick with me until all my enemies were vanquished. I think that was a pretty good path from the sound of it.

[Harukage]

Originally posted by Cyroy:

I let Pasqal decide and he decided to reform Amaranth. After which he told me that despite having recovered his entire personality, Pasqal will still be an important part of him and is thankful for the help I've offered and he'd stick with me until all my enemies were vanquished. I think that was a pretty good path from the sound of it.

Yeah, i think that is the best ending. Pasqal exists inside Amarnath as the deciding part and is perfectly ( lets not forget that it is pasqal who created Amarnath collective to begin with). Explorator Fleet is happy they get their Messiah back and are ready to go against Dark Mechanicus armed with Escathos. I hink everybody wins here.

[watcherzero]

Heresy!

Interestingly the idea of an entity formed of the collective minds of Mechanicus members was a key point of the Forge of Mars trilogy, didnt end well with the Gestalt mind entity basically going around lobotomising smart people to add to its brain jar collection.

[x_equals_speed]

One of the little touches I quite liked about this quest line is on my second play I notice that Idira's response to first meeting Pasqual is something like "The voices keep shouting over each other, it's like they're talking about entirely different people"

[Ivo]

The restoration path of the Amarnath collective is LITERALLY WHAT BELISARIUS CAWL IS

[Enola Gay]

supposedly abel being alive, is a requirement if you want to keep the technology instead of destroying it.

[Amai_Nara]

Does anyone know what answers need to be said so that Pascal remains Pascal? No matter what you choose in the quest about the cycle, it always becomes Amaranth. Is this a bug or what?

[Cathulion]

Originally posted by Amai_Nara:

Does anyone know what answers need to be said so that Pascal remains Pascal? No matter what you choose in the quest about the cycle, it always becomes Amaranth. Is this a bug or what?

I wouldn't call it remaining pasqal but (paraphrasing) by the end there should be a set of answers and among them:
-the galaxy needs amarnat
-we need Pasqal and the weapon (this is what you are looking for)
-this is evil and should be destroyed
Be warned he doesn't remain Pasqal, instead he veers of into fanaticism and becomes Mechanicus Doctor Doom, except even more evil and inconsiderate.
He discards Abel as no longer useful, for a start
This is because in the Amarnat collective he was responsible for Judgement and in that second choice he embraces it fully
Also remember you prior conversations, as in prior to the quest, across the whole game, influence his decision on the matter.

[Zarek]

Originally posted by Cathulion:

Originally posted by Amai_Nara:

Does anyone know what answers need to be said so that Pascal remains Pascal? No matter what you choose in the quest about the cycle, it always becomes Amaranth. Is this a bug or what?

I wouldn't call it remaining pasqal but (paraphrasing) by the end there should be a set of answers and among them:
-the galaxy needs amarnat
-we need Pasqal and the weapon (this is what you are looking for)
-this is evil and should be destroyed
Be warned he doesn't remain Pasqal, instead he veers of into fanaticism and becomes Mechanicus Doctor Doom, except even more evil and inconsiderate.
He discards Abel as no longer useful, for a start
This is because in the Amarnat collective he was responsible for Judgement and in that second choice he embraces it fully
Also remember you prior conversations, as in prior to the quest, across the whole game, influence his decision on the matter.

What I found weird is that no matter which i chose, he still went Pasql With the Weapon. I loaded it, ran the fight 4 times, and chose each dialogue and it concluded the same way. This games behind the scene flags are wild.

[Pestilence]

Originally posted by Ivo:

The restoration path of the Amarnath collective is LITERALLY WHAT BELISARIUS CAWL IS

...THAT bad!?
Kill it.
Kill it with fire.