Jae... Why??

[RasaNova]

Spoilers, I guess.

I stop by to chat with Jae, who I've mostly been ignoring. The option comes up to invite her to dinner (among a few other options which implied some sort of infatuation which was in no way derserved, imo) and she says she'll come by. Never happens, but I DO end up in my room, face to face with a giant (seemingly friendly) murder-beast and see her hiding behind the bed. Ok, in all fairness, that WAS pretty freaking cool.

But then I find that she spray-painted something on the floor of the bridge, something about my heart woven in passion with Jae's heart or something. And THEN I find out that she's been embezzling, and using my name for her own ends. And although it hasn't happened yet, I did see spoilers about a certain recording that gets broadcast throughout the ship...

All because I invited her to dinner? Sorry Jae I think I'd rather take my chances with the human-hating space elf or the insanity-inducing bloody-eyed and probably barely legal mutant. Is there an upside to becoming closer to Jae, or is it just a constant series of reasons to have her thrown out an airlock?

Asking for a friend.

(although I did have her graffitti scrubbed, and told her to stop stealing my shiz so my chances are probably low anyway.)

[wei270]

lets just said if you are doing a good upstanding citizen run you will not even be recruiting jae, you know what you are in when you recruit her, so her actions in romance shouldn't really come as a surprise. you do have a choice not to walk down that road.

[MachineGod]

Originally posted by SolusiRadikal:

Name any full flsehed character in this game that's not a complete jerk

Welcome to 40k universe

Pascal/Abelard/Indiria

[concord03]

Coming late to the party in this thread :)
But I do want to say my part without spoilers. (I'm playing in act 4 now)

For me, Jae started a love from first sight.
First impression: she's beautiful, capable, double-pistol-wielding badass adventurer after xeno-artifacts. Like the original Lara Croft from 2001 Tomb Raider.
So, I romanced her.

Second impression: She's a useful party member with so many skills! And she's an officer, giving additional turns to hard-hitting companions, which is the core of my tactics.

Third impression: She's a liar.
Not only am I not sure she won't betray me, but I can't say that I know who she really is as a person. How can I be in an intimate relationship with someone whom I don't really know?

Should breaking up and romancing someone else?
It was a tough choice.

I'm playing a male RT and I want to romance a woman.
I want sex to be part of the relationship. With further hopes of marriage and children to continue the Von Valencius dynasty.
But let's see my other options:
- Yrlit, is Eldar, not human, so children are almost unthinkable, and she despises the human species too much. NO.
- Idira is an unsanctioend psyker. In 40k, that's a sentence. As Iconoclast I keep her alive and give her chances, but a relationship with this ticking time bomb is unthinkable. NO.
- Argenta is a nun. And, while badass, not my type. No.
- Cassia is nice. I am in love with her voice and personality. But naive and immature as a child. Also a Navigator, a mutant, probably needs genes from another navigator man to continue her dynasty. And an anomaly that tortures people around her with waves of emotions that nobody asked for. But I really love her voice and personality... SO, MAYBE?
That's it, (unless I'm missing someone).

So, for me, in the end, it was a choice of either Jae or Cassia.
Either
Sex with Jae here and now, with possible marriage and children in future, at the cost of suffering her pranks and lies, and accepting that I can't trust her.
or
Romantic courtship with Cassia now, with uncertain prospect of sex, and very low chances of marriage and children. At the cost of dealing with her childish immaturity and suffering waves of intrusive emotions.

I chose Jae.
I'd like to think that IRL I wouldn't build a relationship with a liar.
But all the other options in the game are arguably worse.
And I don't want to be alone.

And now, in Act 4, after some horrible events of Act 3 and ensuing honest conversations, I think I finally know Jae for who she really is. And there's a chance to build trust and honesty here. At least I hope there is...
(Haven't finished the game yet)

[dwarfpcfan]

Jae gives you a horrible tentacle mouthed six legged lizard lion thing as a pet to add some spiff to your bridge. She's keeper.

[concord03]

Finished the game. It paid off for me. I'm happy.
You can eventually build trust. Then she will open up and will stop the lies and pranks. And you can live happily ever after.
To achieve this, you need tolerate Jae's pranks and keep saying that you want to know the real her and accept her. (well into Act 4)

[Taifun_Vash]

If Jae lives comes down to what I play, did romance her once as heretic, was the most unsatisfying romance so far, that includes Yrliet that is more a friendship. She lies from the beginning till almost the end and speaks of trust all the time, she is a scammer.
Dogmatic she dies, either on footfall, or when she tells me she is a deserter.
Who thought it was a good idea to tell a dogmatic commissar that she is a deserter.
Icono most often she lives, damn that forgiving heart.
Heretic, the only reason not to kill her is losing another companion.
Won't do that romance a second time.

[The Colgate King]

Jae is completely forthright in her actions.

Giving you the tentacle dog is pretty much a statement of what she is capable of doing. It's not about what you can afford, it's about what she can get you that you don't even think about. The graffiti on the bridge makes sense when you understand her back story (and thus is a little more endearing).

As for her plundering the treasury and using your name to extort people, that is a misrepresentation of events. The amount she took is negligible, and was primarily used to acquire rare gifts for you personally. She never extorts anyone, but with her being a direct line to one of the most powerful people in the expanse people are trying to buy her favor in order to get closer to you. Your High Factotum is just sour that HIS gifts to Jae didn't get him into her corset and now he is framing things in a bad light out of spite for her.

Romance or not she recognizes you as an opportunity and is acting in a way that will at least forge a business alliance.

[jonoliveira12]

Jae is a golddigger. You get what you get, and it is not like it was not telegraphed.

Cassia is a literal noblewoman of great virtue, and Yrliet bonds with you deeper than any actual human woman can (spiritually).
You have better options, but you deny one because she is a "monster", and the other one because she will not go to bed with you.
I guess you deserve the pilfering golddigger. I get wanting sex (though not in a videogame, but some people RP hard) and saying no to Yrliet because of it, since it is a very basic human bonding instinct; but turning down Cassia because of appearances, makes you deserve the hussy.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by The Colgate King:

Jae is completely forthright in her actions.

Giving you the tentacle dog is pretty much a statement of what she is capable of doing. It's not about what you can afford, it's about what she can get you that you don't even think about. The graffiti on the bridge makes sense when you understand her back story (and thus is a little more endearing).

As for her plundering the treasury and using your name to extort people, that is a misrepresentation of events. The amount she took is negligible, and was primarily used to acquire rare gifts for you personally. She never extorts anyone, but with her being a direct line to one of the most powerful people in the expanse people are trying to buy her favor in order to get closer to you. Your High Factotum is just sour that HIS gifts to Jae didn't get him into her corset and now he is framing things in a bad light out of spite for her.

Romance or not she recognizes you as an opportunity and is acting in a way that will at least forge a business alliance.

Buying gifts for you with your own money, defeats the point of them being "gifts".
At taht point they are more like "surprise purchases".

[Toaster Maximus]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Jae is a golddigger. You get what you get, and it is not like it was not telegraphed.

Cassia is a literal noblewoman of great virtue, and Yrliet bonds with you deeper than any actual human woman can (spiritually).
You have better options, but you deny one because she is a "monster", and the other one because she will not go to bed with you.
I guess you deserve the pilfering golddigger. I get wanting sex (though not in a videogame, but some people RP hard) and saying no to Yrliet because of it, since it is a very basic human bonding instinct; but turning down Cassia because of appearances, makes you deserve the hussy.

Oddly Cass mating with a noble rouge trader house seems normal, in the end she is still human and does not seem to have suffered mutations to her reproductive stuff so the two houses getting it on would boost both. So building a strong bloodline she is the best choice from a legacy view point

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Jae is a golddigger. You get what you get, and it is not like it was not telegraphed.

Cassia is a literal noblewoman of great virtue, and Yrliet bonds with you deeper than any actual human woman can (spiritually).
You have better options, but you deny one because she is a "monster", and the other one because she will not go to bed with you.
I guess you deserve the pilfering golddigger. I get wanting sex (though not in a videogame, but some people RP hard) and saying no to Yrliet because of it, since it is a very basic human bonding instinct; but turning down Cassia because of appearances, makes you deserve the hussy.

Oddly Cass mating with a noble rouge trader house seems normal, in the end she is still human and does not seem to have suffered mutations to her reproductive stuff so the two houses getting it on would boost both. So building a strong bloodline she is the best choice from a legacy view point

Any kid she has with you, will be a standard human, however. As part of her duty, she will have to cheat on you with multiple Navigators, to get pregnant and keep her House in power, with new Navigators, however.

She does, in the end, actually love you, though. And even a strictly political marriage will indeed be favourable for your House, a bit like the japanese emperors had with the Fujiwara clan, in which the next emperor would always marry a Fujiwara wife, securing the clan's loyalty and political influence.

[The Colgate King]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by The Colgate King:

Jae is completely forthright in her actions.

Giving you the tentacle dog is pretty much a statement of what she is capable of doing. It's not about what you can afford, it's about what she can get you that you don't even think about. The graffiti on the bridge makes sense when you understand her back story (and thus is a little more endearing).

As for her plundering the treasury and using your name to extort people, that is a misrepresentation of events. The amount she took is negligible, and was primarily used to acquire rare gifts for you personally. She never extorts anyone, but with her being a direct line to one of the most powerful people in the expanse people are trying to buy her favor in order to get closer to you. Your High Factotum is just sour that HIS gifts to Jae didn't get him into her corset and now he is framing things in a bad light out of spite for her.

Romance or not she recognizes you as an opportunity and is acting in a way that will at least forge a business alliance.

Buying gifts for you with your own money, defeats the point of them being "gifts".
At taht point they are more like "surprise purchases".

Even after the dynasty's erosion under Theodora's rule, you are still at a level of wealth where money doesn't matter. The gift isn't what she purchased, it's the statement of "look where my hands can go where yours cannot go easily"

[Toaster Maximus]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:

Oddly Cass mating with a noble rouge trader house seems normal, in the end she is still human and does not seem to have suffered mutations to her reproductive stuff so the two houses getting it on would boost both. So building a strong bloodline she is the best choice from a legacy view point

Any kid she has with you, will be a standard human, however. As part of her duty, she will have to cheat on you with multiple Navigators, to get pregnant and keep her House in power, with new Navigators, however.

She does, in the end, actually love you, though. And even a strictly political marriage will indeed be favourable for your House, a bit like the japanese emperors had with the Fujiwara clan, in which the next emperor would always marry a Fujiwara wife, securing the clan's loyalty and political influence.

So normal noble stuff. it still would make it easier being able to get future navigatorrrs for the rouge trader house, good warp paths back to the core parts of the imperium and so on, that is the boost I'm talking about. And her house gets to be able to expand their maps and so on, so a boost to both even if the personal kid is normal

Edit: Sorry for errors and typos

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Any kid she has with you, will be a standard human, however. As part of her duty, she will have to cheat on you with multiple Navigators, to get pregnant and keep her House in power, with new Navigators, however.

She does, in the end, actually love you, though. And even a strictly political marriage will indeed be favourable for your House, a bit like the japanese emperors had with the Fujiwara clan, in which the next emperor would always marry a Fujiwara wife, securing the clan's loyalty and political influence.

So normal noble stuff. it still would make it easier being able to get future navigatorrrs for the rouge trader house, good warp paths back to the core parts of the imperium and so on, that is the boost I'm talking about. And her house gets to be able to expand their maps and so on, so a boost to both even if the personal kid is normal

Edit: Sorry for errors and typos

Yes, it is typical nobility stuff, but some may find it unpalatable.

[Toaster Maximus]

Wonder if Big E meant for his nobles to be like Japanese stuff or just like old fashion ones in general but that is another topic