Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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KiT2142 Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:26am
I don't think Act 4 was playtested
Because the difficulty spike is absolutely insane. Act 3 you're one shoting stuff left and right and act 4(Eufrates II to be precise) you are dropped against FIVE overtuned bosses with no possibility to get back to the ship and treat your traumas and on top of it you "have to" bring Ulfar with you who is probably the worst companion from gameplay standpoint. Don't even get me started on the csm who can burst half your party in one turn.
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Nightmarian Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:40am 
Month late to the discussion... ya, what could possibly make you think that, lol?

I doubt any part of the game was playtested all that much, but acts 4+ definitely got the worst of it.
karnisov Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:42am 
Eufrates II definitely needs the balance overhaul, but they have so many bugs to fix that we will probably have to wait a few months at minimum...

edit: to be clear I am not saying this is ok, but is the sad reality of the situation
Last edited by karnisov; Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:56am
Nightmarian Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by karnisov:
Eufrates II definitely needs the balance overhaul, but they have so many bugs to fix that we will probably have to wait a few months at minimum...

As I keep saying, just wait for the definitive edition announcement. At this probably the two DLC too since I think they were cut content instead of pre-planned expansions with all the things missing.

I'll probably just start all over again from the start next December.
Khloros Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
Originally posted by karnisov:
Eufrates II definitely needs the balance overhaul, but they have so many bugs to fix that we will probably have to wait a few months at minimum...

As I keep saying, just wait for the definitive edition announcement. At this probably the two DLC too since I think they were cut content instead of pre-planned expansions with all the things missing.

I'll probably just start all over again from the start next December.
I HIGHLY suspect that is the case, since Space Marine 2 is coming out next year, i would bet good money that GW told them to get it out this year so that the 2 are not competing.

With the lack of map reveal and planets in act 4 and 5, the amount the story was dropped and rushed post act 3 along with all the bugs about mid act 3 onward, i cant help but feel this game was pushed out way to early, and that the DLC, at least the first one, was intended to be part of the base game. Even for owl cat this is rough.
Khloros Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by karnisov:
not sure why you feel the need to tell customers that paid full price for an officially released game to wait a full year.

this is not kickstarter or early access.

you should maybe think about what you are saying.


Because we were telling people this from the roof tops ever since the game was announced lol.

Owlcat is notorious for putting out buggy, busted, unbalanced games that take about a year to get fixed.

Kingmaker was near unplayable. By a year mark it iwas in a very good state but still had balance issues. Wrath was the same way

If this was your first game by owlcat then you are not at fault, because you did not know, and it is a horrible shame you had to find out this way.
For anyone who has bought owlcats previous titles, this is kinda par the course and if you buy this game, knowing what their past games were like and expecting anything different well, thats on you.
corisai Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by KiT2142:
Because the difficulty spike is absolutely insane.
Where it is?
corisai Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by KiT2142:
Don't even get me started on the csm who can burst half your party in one turn.
How? You have officers and Grand Strategists...
karnisov Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by Khloros:
If this was your first game by owlcat then you are not at fault, because you did not know, and it is a horrible shame you had to find out this way.

alot of players are here for the 40k IP and have not played Owlcat games before so adjust your talking points according. stop blaming the customer for Owlcat's failings.
Khloros Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by KiT2142:
Don't even get me started on the csm who can burst half your party in one turn.
How? You have officers and Grand Strategists...
If you are using multiple officers nothing in the game is difficult, its like dunking on toddlers.

Do the fight with out multiple officers, its vastly more difficult, your only experiencing the content using an objectively broken exploitative ability to spam extra turns onto a single target to have them kill everything before they get to go.
Khloros Jan 1, 2024 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by karnisov:
Originally posted by Khloros:
If this was your first game by owlcat then you are not at fault, because you did not know, and it is a horrible shame you had to find out this way.

alot of players are here for the 40k IP and have not played Owlcat games before so adjust your talking points according. stop blaming the customer for Owlcat's failings.

I guess you did not read what i said?
If you did not play owlcats games before, then this is not your fault, owlcat should not be putting out busted buggy messes of games. That point stands regardless, its insane they put this level of bugs out into a final product.


If you have had experience with past Owlcat games, and expected different this time around, then you, as the consumer, are at fault for buying from them again.
If you go to a coffee shop, and each time they give you the wrong order. Whos really at fault for going back and expecting different?
Elizabello Jan 1, 2024 @ 12:02pm 
I agree, the rest of the game needs a difficulty bump as well!
corisai Jan 1, 2024 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by Khloros:
Do the fight with out multiple officers, its vastly more difficult
Then don't blame devs for "difficulty spike" if you're not using tools they'd provided to you?

You're trying to say:
a) Do not use officers.
b) Do not use Argenta.
c) Do not use Cassia.
d) Do not use Yrliet.
e) Do not use Idira.
LOL, what?!
Khloros Jan 1, 2024 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Khloros:
Do the fight with out multiple officers, its vastly more difficult
Then don't blame devs for "difficulty spike" if you're not using tools they'd provided to you?

You're trying to say:
a) Do not use officers.
b) Do not use Argenta.
c) Do not use Cassia.
d) Do not use Yrliet.
e) Do not use Idira.
LOL, what?!

Its worth blaming the deves because the entire game up to that point is very managable with pretty much any build, but the officer build stands out among all other builds as being the most broken, and in typical owlcat fashion they have 1 fight in the game that is massively over tuned, and insanly difficult unless you are abusing the most broken builds possible.

You can look through the forms multiple people have reported the same issue with the this particular fight, and the only people who dont have a problem with it, are people who are abusing multi officer spam. If one fight out of the game, is only manageable via one particular party build, then its an issue with the fight. You just dont notice the problem because you are using the one build that trivializes everything.

Im not hing to get into another pissing contest over it, i said my bit, you said your and can have your last word if you like, but the fights broken.

Not sure why you listed off random things i never said? The only thing i said is multiple officers is asininely busted and over tuned and trivialities every single fight in the game.

So using parties and builds that abusing multiple officer heroic actions and extra turns is a horrible metric to base the rest of the game on.
Last edited by Khloros; Jan 1, 2024 @ 12:08pm
treahnurb Jan 1, 2024 @ 12:09pm 
Why do so many people have so many problems with so many fights? I just did all of that and the only reload I had to do was the last fight because I placed my units very stupid, shame on me. And I do neither use Cassia, Idira or Argenta.
And Trauma heal can be done with medkits, no need to go back to the ship...
Last edited by treahnurb; Jan 1, 2024 @ 12:10pm
KiT2142 Jan 1, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by KiT2142:
Don't even get me started on the csm who can burst half your party in one turn.
How? You have officers and Grand Strategists...
I have Jae but she is often dead before she can even start her turn. Yeah yeah, I know I can stack 3 officers but I do believe that on mid difficulty you should be able to finish a mission with any party comp, especially considering you could do it before act 4
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Date Posted: Jan 1, 2024 @ 11:26am
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