ok Big problem in ACt 3

[wei270]

ok if you didn't recruit Yrlett and you left both Abelard and Argenta on the ship and you happen to be a an officier................

did you just screwed your self in to oblivion in act 3 because you have to fight either malice or the commissar ALONE??????????????????

[REhorror]

Hmmm, wow, probably.

Then again, if you play an officer, usually you would bring a damage dealer with you, unless you purposely gimp yourself.

[wei270]

Originally posted by REhorror:

Hmmm, wow, probably.

Then again, if you play an officer, usually you would bring a damage dealer with you, unless you purposely gimp yourself.

i mean usually officers are op and runing 3 officer and buffing hernix is a perfectly fine strategy

[Hanabi]

To be fair, unless you're into heavy spoilers, most people think they're going on a minor investigation with their team so they bring the team that fits the flavor of their set down. In RPGs with more than 5 companions, especially if you like all of them. You tend to want all to get chances to shine so you say. Ohh, Xenos clue, I'm gonna take these characters, where if you knew what kind of combat hell you where going into, you'd have brought someone else.

That's why I call act 3 unbalanced. Because you may have screwed yourself simply because there was no way to know the absolute brutal combat slog ahead of you.

[Sol]

I hear act 3 is pretty borked depending on the state of your party.

But the psyker companions are locked up in the flesh opera (with Ulfar), and if you didn't drag along Abelard and Argenta, then I think that just leaves Jae who I've read can be buggy showing up. Pasqal shows up some time after the first arena fight.

Sucks, but you might have to tinker with the difficulty options to make the early section of act 3 less AIDS.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by wei270:

Originally posted by REhorror:

Hmmm, wow, probably.

Then again, if you play an officer, usually you would bring a damage dealer with you, unless you purposely gimp yourself.

i mean usually officers are op and runing 3 officer and buffing hernix is a perfectly fine strategy

I wonder how a custom party would be handled in Act 3.
I guess Owlcat assumes everyone to at least use Abelard or Argenta by that point.

[wei270]

yeah they really did

[REhorror]

I even think they should extend the suffering section.
I was feeling really bad, until I go to the Mangled sector, and holy crap Argenta is standing there preaching, and I know I'm gonna have a good time already.

Emperor blesses you Sister!

[Morgian]

Chapter 3 is pretty bug free. I played through it just now and found none.

Partywise you get the people who were with you. If you brought Yrliet and Argenta, these are who you find first, and Pascal is the 4th. All psykers and Cassia are in the opera and have to wait. Your mercs are all back after the 1st arena fight when you go back to the Pit and leave again. You can beg for Heinrix, maybe Idira if he isn't with you, and Cassia is always last after the second fight.

Skill checks have been worked over in the last patch and are now doable.

My main is a soldier-AM like Argenta, and I got Pascal as my 3rd for the first fights. If I had been an officer like you, this would have been a cakewalk. So I had no extra turns :(

What you do first is to go over all the areas and pick up whatever two companions you get first and the gear lying around. Then do either the commissar or Malice or both.

[Kid Gloves]

Yeah, you are screwed. Hope you kept a save from the end of Act 2.

It might be the next big fight too depending on who you have with you, but at least you'll have your gear.

If you're using mercenaries...

...

.. don't use mercenaries.

[AVNlover67]

If you use mercenaries, you do not have to go around looking for them.

[Poggers]

Originally posted by Morgian:

Chapter 3 is pretty bug free. I played through it just now and found none.

Partywise you get the people who were with you. If you brought Yrliet and Argenta, these are who you find first, and Pascal is the 4th. All psykers and Cassia are in the opera and have to wait. Your mercs are all back after the 1st arena fight when you go back to the Pit and leave again. You can beg for Heinrix, maybe Idira if he isn't with you, and Cassia is always last after the second fight.

Skill checks have been worked over in the last patch and are now doable.

My main is a soldier-AM like Argenta, and I got Pascal as my 3rd for the first fights. If I had been an officer like you, this would have been a cakewalk. So I had no extra turns :(

What you do first is to go over all the areas and pick up whatever two companions you get first and the gear lying around. Then do either the commissar or Malice or both.

Pretty bug free??
I needed to replay act 3 now 3 times and i still cant continue because when i leave passing the webway i dont get the follow up quests for act4. In my first run i could not get hernix because the npc didnt speak to me in front of his cage. i got the cage key for ulfar but there was no interaction with the cage. In my second run i got both but the follow up quest didnt apear. and in the 3. run i could not find cassie even with guides and after accepting to abadon her, i still have the no follow up quest bug.

[Boomstar]

Can only find argenta who is a bounty hunter and im an officer. This fight seems basically impossible. Owlcat really are champs at not learning a damn thing since this nearly killed kingmaker as well.

[BlazingScribe]

I don't know if you can get Pasqal before the first arena fight or not. I couldn't, but I had Argenta and Yrliet with me, so it didn't really matter. Not sure about Jae.

Yrliet, Abelard, Argenta, Jae (I think) and maybe Pasqal. That's half your available roster of companions. Even if you did take Idira, Heinrix and Cassia you will have at least two of the ones above. If you have even one of those characters, the Malice fight is doable as an officer.

You have some things that can give you an edge in the dark city. You still have access to your cargo (for some reason), so you can pull out whatever weapons and gear you have in storage to give yourself a boost. If you fight Malice you do get help from the Commissar if you can survive long enough for him to get there.

But yeah, I get it, the theoretical worst case scenario is rough.

[Morgian]

The companions are found in a certain order that does not change. All psykers and Cassia are trapped at Tervantias. The rest is appearing in order. If you don't have Abelard and Argenta, the game jumps to the next one in line. So you can in theory determine ahead who will be in the first fight.
On my first run it was Argenta and Yrliet, on my second Argenta and Pascal. I never brought Abelard or Jae along. I tried the begging option on Tervantias, but no matter what he only lets Heinrix go before the second fight, and not Cassia.

[Sol]

Originally posted by Boomstar:

Can only find argenta who is a bounty hunter and im an officer. This fight seems basically impossible. Owlcat really are champs at not learning a damn thing since this nearly killed kingmaker as well.

If you're still having problems and bumping the difficulty down isn't helping, the game has workshop support.
Grab the toybox mod and you could either cheat super hard or respec Argenta into being an Astra Militrum or whatever it's called. Snag wildfire and build versatility by swapping between single-shot and burst fire attacks.