Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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Witch staff lol?
Ah yes, legendary Eldar warlock weapon...
- why it's damage 10-13 for two hander?
- why it has no WP scaling?
- why it's primitive type when it clearly force weapon?

What mockery is this ffs?
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Nightmarian Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by Draken:
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
Psykers were added in last minute basically according to what the devs said, so they're probably still incomplete even if they'd never admit it.

Expect a lot of fixes and "free content patches" as we get closer to the DLC which is also likely just cut content based on their desc.

Honestly, I don't think it's fair to talk about "cut content" in this situation.

Nothing was removed. They just didn't manage to get everything in they wanted time wise. Given the amount of bugs Owlcat actually added in too much content and didn't stop with that and switched to locking the build and focusing on bug-fixing soon enough.

"Cut content" are things that are actually in the game, but aren't actually used for various reasons. Something that was never added into the game in the first place, for whatever reason, isn't "cut content".

Yes, go ahead and try to continue to spin circles around "they released an unfinished game, are making us pay to beta test it, and are making us pay for stuff that should have been in the game" and do so while trying to sound like both you and Owlcat have the moral high ground.
corisai Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
they released an unfinished game
They released a finished yet buggy game. RT is nothing like BG3 where certain characters simply lacked quests in last acts. Don't spread lies around (and all games have some "cut" content - either unfinished or used for testing).
Wraith Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
they released an unfinished game
They released a finished yet buggy game. RT is nothing like BG3 where certain characters simply lacked quests in last acts. Don't spread lies around (and all games have some "cut" content - either unfinished or used for testing).
yah no plenty of people finished BG3 just fine in release

You have to struggle to find anyone that can complete RT lol
Last edited by Wraith; Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:16pm
corisai Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Wraith:
yah no plenty of people finished BG3 just fine in release
That don't change a fact that BG3 on release simply LACKED proper ending of questline for a one character (or even two - don't remember now if Mintara lacked a proper romance or whole questline). Not even data mining helped here. That's literally what "unfinished game" mean.

And there are people who completed RT on release too. One of them even did in on Unfair and posted video on YT.
Last edited by corisai; Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:20pm
Nightmarian Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
they released an unfinished game
They released a finished yet buggy game. RT is nothing like BG3 where certain characters simply lacked quests in last acts. Don't spread lies around (and all games have some "cut" content - either unfinished or used for testing).

You obviously haven't played Rogue Trader if that's your argument, lmao. The irony about spreading lies is sharp enough to cut. But your bias away; it's okay that BG3 is the vastly superior game and I really don't know why that irrationally bothers you so much. And having played that game to completion, I really don't know what you're talking about, I think you might be that nutjob who just wasn't happy about Mol's quest? Yeah man, opinions aside, that sure derailed the entire game and it's core narrative! Oh wait.

I'm here anyway, and I want Rogue Trader (and Owlcat) to be better, but squealing that nothing is wrong while burning out your eyes (ha) is just going to make it really hard to take you or your poorly constructed opinions seriously.
Last edited by Nightmarian; Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:29pm
Nightmarian Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Wraith:
yah no plenty of people finished BG3 just fine in release
That don't change a fact that BG3 on release simply LACKED proper ending of questline for a one character (or even two - don't remember now if Mintara lacked a proper romance or whole questline). Not even data mining helped here. That's literally what "unfinished game" mean.

And there are people who completed RT on release too. One of them even did in on Unfair and posted video on YT.

Brother, you are stretching something fierce here. Just stop talking about BG3; it's okay if you don't like it. No one cares. Just be an adult about it instead of a delusional fanboi. It's ugly as all hell and I refuse to believe you're not better than that.
corisai Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
You obviously haven't played Rogue Trader if that's your argument, lmao.
Yes, and my RT sitting in Act4 it's just a Warp Apparition. Probably because Tzeench is interested in me =/

Originally posted by Nightmarian:
The irony about spreading lies is sharp enough to cut.
Then stop lying about RT being "unfinished game". It's buggy, but complete.

Originally posted by Nightmarian:
And having played that game to completion, I really don't know what you're talking about
Stupid lore-breaking tiefling girl with absolutely idiotic story (lvl 7+ spell would heal her casually). Don't remember her name.
Nightmarian Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
You obviously haven't played Rogue Trader if that's your argument, lmao.
Yes, and my RT sitting in Act4 it's just a Warp Apparition. Probably because Tzeench is interested in me =/

Originally posted by Nightmarian:
The irony about spreading lies is sharp enough to cut.
Then stop lying about RT being "unfinished game". It's buggy, but complete.

Originally posted by Nightmarian:
And having played that game to completion, I really don't know what you're talking about
Stupid lore-breaking tiefling girl with absolutely idiotic story (lvl 7+ spell would heal her casually). Don't remember her name.

An complete game includes full balance, performance, and mechanical passes, not some janky beta you can stumble through from start to finish. Go ahead and have your opinion that you think it's a finished game, but it obviously needed another 6 months in the oven. I bet you thought Cyberpunk 2077 was a finished game even though the differences between release and today are not and day and the amount of changed content is mindblowing (melee system changed 3 times, perks reworked completely twice...)...

And how the heck are you going to call me a liar when you're just salty about a randamo quest that literally no one but you seems to care about this much and really wasn't anywhere near as bad as you seem to think from my memory, if it's what I think you're talking about.
corisai Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Nightmarian:
An complete game includes full balance, performance, and mechanical passes
In your dreams only. Completed game mean all mechanics & questlines exist and available + game have an ending (or endings). It could require years to do proper balance job - vanilla Starcraft is a perfect example. But I guess you would call it "incompleted game" on release :steamhappy:

Originally posted by Nightmarian:
when you're just salty about a randamo quest
Nah. I salty because Larians lied to us, Beta-players and Beta had the most content of their game instead of promised 1/3. Also salty because they didn't fixed many Beta bugs on release too. And lied about having a choice - everything but your choice in last chapter don't matter at all, no corruption at all - just stuck as many tadpoles as you can until final one >_<

Originally posted by Nightmarian:
I bet you thought Cyberpunk 2077 was a finished game
Except devs lied that it would be a cyberpank game and we get a generic post-apoc RPG instead. All ending around Arisaka, lol. Where are other mega-corps, lol? They should have own endings or it isn't a cyberpank at all.
Last edited by corisai; Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:49pm
Originally posted by zastcat:
Originally posted by Razzen:
Which would be the fourth force weapon? I know about the two one-handers, the one two-handed from heretical.

there's a late biomancy power that creates a sword of psychic energy which can technically count as a force weapon, arguably the best force weapon in the game since its stats can also be boosted continuously if the fight goes on long enough but most fights will be over well before that matters

That's the Santic ulti, and with the right build can be summoned turn 1 and deals 200+ damage a hit even before you pump it because it scales hard with psy rating and Resolve. ;)
zastcat Dec 29, 2023 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:
Originally posted by zastcat:

there's a late biomancy power that creates a sword of psychic energy which can technically count as a force weapon, arguably the best force weapon in the game since its stats can also be boosted continuously if the fight goes on long enough but most fights will be over well before that matters

That's the Santic ulti, and with the right build can be summoned turn 1 and deals 200+ damage a hit even before you pump it because it scales hard with psy rating and Resolve. ;)

no idea why I wrote biomancy, very distracted today, apologies

that said this kinda just turns into another issue of "well with the right build" being the counter to any psyker argument, it doesn't actually *fix* the thing that people are upset about, it just means that if you go for specific archetypes, restrict yourself to specific alignment, and hunt down specific items you can break the game and deal far more damage than they actually built around you doing in a turn
Boomer simpson Dec 29, 2023 @ 7:40pm 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Wraith:
yah no plenty of people finished BG3 just fine in release
That don't change a fact that BG3 on release simply LACKED proper ending of questline for a one character (or even two - don't remember now if Mintara lacked a proper romance or whole questline). Not even data mining helped here. That's literally what "unfinished game" mean.

And there are people who completed RT on release too. One of them even did in on Unfair and posted video on YT.
You're high as ♥♥♥♥ if you think RT on release is less buggy than BG3 on release. I literally couldn't progress past Act 1 because I didn't choose a specific one-time Lore (Xeno) option which made the Governor not have any dialogue options to end the Act when I ran into him several hours later.
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