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Basically, make them go opposite side every times, it's gonna work eventually.
For second puzzle - nothing but trial & experiments. That's why it's rewarding you with achievement, lol.
I'm talking about the beam puzzle in the Unidentified Ruins. The star pattern puzzle has a clue, but after looking it up with the other clue for a pattern doesn't work, I see there's a second puzzle pattern of two triangles. But how am I supposed to know to do that without looking it up online? I feel bad that I had to cheat to get it, so I want to learn what I was supposed to think to do otherwise.
By clicking all action icons around the map before leaving the location (through you need high Awareness to find the safe)?
And holy hell, it is an awesome item for Cassia, makes her even STRONGER.
Skill issue, took me 2 minutes ...